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Subject: The Halo 3 AR is not a AR/BR Hybrid, it's just the MA5B

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I took a little screenie of the H3 trailer and removed everything except for the AR, and I compared it with a render of the Halo:CE AR, and guess what?

THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, so stop theoryzing about how the "new" AR is a hybrid between the CE AR and the H2 BR. And if you don't believe me, take a look at this pic I made with both models, the CE MA5B is on top, and the H3 Trailer AR is on the bottom. Granted the angles are a little different, but that is all I had to work with. The H3 barrel might be slightly longer, but it shares nothing with the BR.

Check it out here.

  • 05.12.2006 12:44 PM PDT

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I dont believe you!

[Edited on 5/12/2006]

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Well thank you almighty RedMonkey I'm sure no one figured that out without your help. Now the real question is. Could you render a picture with your own head up your ass?

  • 05.12.2006 12:46 PM PDT
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That is heavily modified. The barrel is longer and the rifle itself is far greater in width.

Maybe an MA2B. Those were in the books.

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I think that was in English...you know theres nothing wrong with Dyslexics for -blam!-s sakes LOL.

yeh some dumb ass thought that there was a grenade laucher on the bottom haha...when its a torch

  • 05.12.2006 12:48 PM PDT

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I think it is just the angle that the pics were rendered at, they look the same to me. And as far as no-one else noticing, there had been a lot of discussion about whether or not it was a hybrid version of the AR in the trailer, so I was just trying to settle that. Now sit the -blam!- down and shut up while I get working on that head in the ass render

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Little tease/trailers don't really show us what the game itself will be like. The only thing this trailer really shows is that Halo 3 exists. So, maybe the aussault rifle (in any shape or form) might not even be in the game, maybe they'll bring back the battle rifle or even the old pistol, who knows?

  • 05.12.2006 12:54 PM PDT
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dude, i totally argee with you, that what i always said to other people that is more like half AR and half BR... so i am pretty sure he making *upgrade* BR to into look like AR so he must enjoy the AR looking, heehee
i think he upgrade BR to be autoshot *i mean not 3 shot per click* can just hold the trigger and shot all times

  • 05.12.2006 12:54 PM PDT

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I think that was in English...you know theres nothing wrong with Dyslexics for -blam!-s sakes LOL.

I never said it was wrong and btw, i changed my post so you're comment is meaningless....for now,

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  • 05.12.2006 12:54 PM PDT

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Yeah no doubt this is the MA5B. I think the whole point of it is to show that the game is going to be as good as Halo1 and Halo2, ie show Halo2 MC with Halo1 weapon.. How it will actually compare, in terms of gameplay, to the MA5B in Halo1 is anyones guess.

  • 05.12.2006 12:55 PM PDT
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or bungie just wants to get rid of the noob combo.

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Posted by: RedMonkey999
I took a little screenie of the H3 trailer and removed everything except for the AR, and I compared it with a render of the Halo:CE AR, and guess what?

THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, so stop theoryzing about how the "new" AR is a hybrid between the CE AR and the H2 BR. And if you don't believe me, take a look at this pic I made with both models, the CE MA5B is on top, and the H3 Trailer AR is on the bottom. Granted the angles are a little different, but that is all I had to work with. The H3 barrel might be slightly longer, but it shares nothing with the BR.

Check it out here.


Ah yes, I completely forgot you work for bungie and actually designed the weapon...

Thank you for giving us a few spoilers, (but won't your co-workers be mad?)

...idiot, you know as much as anyone else does, so don't assume..

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Just because the look may be the same doesn't mean the functionality is. Anyway, did you happen to notice the elongated barrel, and overall length of the weapon, looks like the BR had some influence on it. I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid of the AR and BR, which is most likely what we will see.

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maybe they lengthened the barrel for more accuracy for a hybrid.

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Posted by: The Gunshark 360
That is heavily modified. The barrel is longer and the rifle itself is far greater in width.

Maybe an MA2B. Those were in the books.


This guy is right, I saw it too when I saw the trailer.
I think that the Assault Rifle is now more accurate and less random fire as it was before... that's all.

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-balm!- you Cortana 669 *shakes fist!* ...always one step ahead of my evil plans! One day ...one day i'll catch you!!!

  • 05.12.2006 1:18 PM PDT
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Aslong as the MA5B is back im happy.

  • 05.12.2006 1:21 PM PDT
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The switch-majigger on the back, top-right of the new one is different... it's on the side, not the top.

The barrel does look a big longer, but that could be an illusion.

  • 05.12.2006 1:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Massive Offense
This guy is right, I saw it too when I saw the trailer.
I think that the Assault Rifle is now more accurate and less random fire as it was before... that's all.


I agree. Thats what I think too. It has to be somewhere right between the smg and the battle rifle.

  • 05.12.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: I 0men I
Just because the look may be the same doesn't mean the functionality is. Anyway, did you happen to notice the elongated barrel, and overall length of the weapon, looks like the BR had some influence on it. I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid of the AR and BR, which is most likely what we will see.


WOW finally someone has realized that until you are shooting the gun, you have NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL IT DOES!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.12.2006 1:26 PM PDT

It only looks different because of all the new details they can add thanks to the 360's power, it has nothing to do with modifications.

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Posted by: Massive Offense
This guy is right, I saw it too when I saw the trailer.
I think that the Assault Rifle is now more accurate and less random fire as it was before... that's all.


I agree. Thats what I think too. It has to be somewhere right between the smg and the battle rifle.


if it has any resemblance to the smg i will shoot myself.

  • 05.12.2006 1:29 PM PDT

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yeah the smg was just a bullet hose, now the MA5B was, and still is, a finely tuned ass kicking machine. but correct me if im wrong, isnt the battle rifle just a heavily modified assault rifle? thats the message i was getting from the books. im most likely wrong.. but ill have to re read it to find out.

  • 05.12.2006 1:32 PM PDT
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That doesnt make any sense...why would everyone in Halo 2 have a BR and then magically in Halo 3 everyone gets an AR...

  • 05.12.2006 1:39 PM PDT
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You guys are right. There is no way that when they decided to put the MA5B in they would want to update it graphically. That's just silly. They already update everything in Halo 2 and made it look nicer, so if they put in the MA5B it should exactly like the on from Halo 1, crappy graphics and all. There is no need to add detail and update the look a little bit. That's stupid, why would you need to do that? This isn't the next generation of console gaming or anything.
Oh, and for the record, that was sarcasm, because people don't get sarcasm.

  • 05.12.2006 1:43 PM PDT

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