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Subject: Marine got back into the Pelican Driver seat on Metropolis!

Hey guys, as you are all aware of the ability to ride the Pelican on Metropolis, i thought i would try flipping the pelican and launching myself onto the bridge to get the Scarab gun however, what happened instead I have never seen before, nor seen a video of it. A Marine got into the Driver seat of the Pelican after it was flipped!

The video is here but please note it is incredibly poor quality, but hopefully you can see what i mean. Has this happened to anyone else before?

[Edited on 01.08.2012 8:36 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 8:29 AM PDT

Damn, it's not playing for me. I want to see this, I've never heard of what you described. Are you talking about the first Pelican you can ride or the ones at the end?

  • 01.08.2012 8:49 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
Damn, it's not playing for me. I want to see this, I've never heard of what you described. Are you talking about the first Pelican you can ride or the ones at the end?

I'll try making it public, and I'm on about the one which drops off the 3 marines which you can ride out of the level. Hold on, try it now

  • 01.08.2012 8:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
Damn, it's not playing for me. I want to see this, I've never heard of what you described. Are you talking about the first Pelican you can ride or the ones at the end?

I'll try making it public, and I'm on about the one which drops off the 3 marines which you can ride out of the level. Hold on, try it now
No, the screen is black, it shows it's loading and then nothing. The play gage doesn't move.

The screen for the viewer is black

[Edited on 01.08.2012 8:55 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 8:55 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1

Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
Damn, it's not playing for me. I want to see this, I've never heard of what you described. Are you talking about the first Pelican you can ride or the ones at the end?

I'll try making it public, and I'm on about the one which drops off the 3 marines which you can ride out of the level. Hold on, try it now
No, the screen is black, it shows it's loading and then nothing. The play gage doesn't move.

The screen for the viewer is black

That is odd, it's working fine on my end both logged in and out of Youtube...I wonder what it could be?

  • 01.08.2012 8:57 AM PDT

Beats me, maybe it's just me but I just played your BF2 Dogfight and it played fine. Someone else needs to chime-in and say if it works.

  • 01.08.2012 8:59 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
Beats me, maybe it's just me but I just played your BF2 Dogfight and it played fine. Someone else needs to chime-in and say if it works.

Yeah, i'll try sending it around to a few people and see if they can see it, as I said, i've never seen this happen before so thought you guys may be as intrigued by it as I am.

I just sent it to a friend of mine and he says it works, i'll try re-listing the link here, maybe it'll work now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q9XJrURi6c

  • 01.08.2012 9:01 AM PDT

Yes, I AM just that awesome.

The video works for me, but I'm using a script that imbeds it in the post. Can't post the image I took because screen snapr is being a dumb.

  • 01.08.2012 9:02 AM PDT


Posted by: BouncedMr happy
The video works for me, but I'm using a script that imbeds it in the post. Can't post the image I took because screen snapr is being a dumb.

Hmm that is odd. I apologise for the poor quality as well, did you see what i meant about the Marine being in the Pelican etc?

  • 01.08.2012 9:03 AM PDT

OK, it just played. Wow, that was amazing but you got some splainin to do.

So the Pelican was all flippy and then it straightened up?

Did the other player get back in when it straightened up?

Give an account of what you saw, it was normal until...when?

You need to get a Ghost and a Scorpion over there.

Nobody has ever been able to get that one with a Pilot in there. Wow.

  • 01.08.2012 9:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
OK, it just played. Wow, that was amazing but you got some splainin to do.

So the Pelican was all flippy and then it straightened up?

Did the other player get back in when it straightened up?

Give an account of what you saw, it was normal until...when?

You need to get a Ghost and a Scorpion over there.

Nobody has ever been able to get that one with a Pilot in there. Wow.

To your questions:

The Pelican was all flippy, as I went to go to flip it in an attempt to launch a Marine says "I got shotgun" and as the Pelican levels out, climbs into the cockpit. Another Marine joined him whereas the other 2 just stopped.

The other player tried to flip it (she's a rookie at Halo) but ended up in the passenger seat since you can't flip a piloted Pelican.

Essentially, all was normal until the Marine somehow managed to get into the driver seat. I do wish I could get a Scorpion or a Ghost out there but it's beyond my skill. That, and this is the first time I've ever seen a Marine get back into a Pelican in all my years of Halo 2.

  • 01.08.2012 9:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
OK, it just played. Wow, that was amazing but you got some splainin to do.

So the Pelican was all flippy and then it straightened up?

Did the other player get back in when it straightened up?

Give an account of what you saw, it was normal until...when?

You need to get a Ghost and a Scorpion over there.

Nobody has ever been able to get that one with a Pilot in there. Wow.

To your questions:

The Pelican was all flippy, as I went to go to flip it in an attempt to launch a Marine says "I got shotgun" and as the Pelican levels out, climbs into the cockpit. Another Marine joined him whereas the other 2 just stopped.

The other player tried to flip it (she's a rookie at Halo) but ended up in the passenger seat since you can't flip a piloted Pelican.

Essentially, all was normal until the Marine somehow managed to get into the driver seat. I do wish I could get a Scorpion or a Ghost out there but it's beyond my skill. That, and this is the first time I've ever seen a Marine get back into a Pelican in all my years of Halo 2.
Yeah, it's awesome, so you witness the Marines getting in? Damn that's tight.

I may have to try that and take a Banshee in to map 2. Or you could try that...is it still playing on your box, this is priceless.

  • 01.08.2012 9:23 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1

Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
OK, it just played. Wow, that was amazing but you got some splainin to do.

So the Pelican was all flippy and then it straightened up?

Did the other player get back in when it straightened up?

Give an account of what you saw, it was normal until...when?

You need to get a Ghost and a Scorpion over there.

Nobody has ever been able to get that one with a Pilot in there. Wow.

To your questions:

The Pelican was all flippy, as I went to go to flip it in an attempt to launch a Marine says "I got shotgun" and as the Pelican levels out, climbs into the cockpit. Another Marine joined him whereas the other 2 just stopped.

The other player tried to flip it (she's a rookie at Halo) but ended up in the passenger seat since you can't flip a piloted Pelican.

Essentially, all was normal until the Marine somehow managed to get into the driver seat. I do wish I could get a Scorpion or a Ghost out there but it's beyond my skill. That, and this is the first time I've ever seen a Marine get back into a Pelican in all my years of Halo 2.
Yeah, it's awesome, so you witness the Marines getting in? Damn that's tight.

I may have to try that and take a Banshee in to map 2. Or you could try that...is it still playing on your box, this is priceless.

I did, they pretty much got into the cockpit through the glass like it was a warthog driver seat and then disappeared (as we're not meant to see the Pilots).

Unfortunately not, after recording this incident and not having any tools at my disposal to try anything with it, i reverted to checkpoint in an attempt to launch myself to the bridge (still ongoing)

  • 01.08.2012 9:25 AM PDT

What's astounding to me is I had a pilot hop out of a Pelican on Outskirts. He was no usual Marine, he had a bunch of special stuff no other Marine has, including a big visor.

The Marine that got in your Pelican was a regular Marine, right, nothing special? That is astounding to me, I thought only specific Pilots would get back in. He must have thought it was a Hog, lol.

  • 01.08.2012 9:32 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
What's astounding to me is I had a pilot hop out of a Pelican on Outskirts. He was no usual Marine, he had a bunch of special stuff no other Marine has, including a big visor.

The Marine that got in your Pelican was a regular Marine, right, nothing special? That is astounding to me, I thought only specific Pilots would get back in. He must have thought it was a Hog, lol.

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc. The only difference is the skin/model they are give. So in essence, any Marine can get back into the Pelican since the seat isn't locked to them, provided they can reach it if the Pelican isn't flipping. I've just never seen it happen before.

As for the Pilot with a bunch of special stuff, this is because the game has loads of different variants of the Marine and since the Pilots aren't meant to be seen, it sometimes assigns a random clothing assortment. This was a problem that I had back when I tried to play the entire campaign as an ODST but I figured it out. Hopefully this makes sense.

There is potential, now that we're aware that Marines can get back into the Pelican. I'd also like to finally point out this video was not modded in anyway, the only mods I use are on H2V and that's strictly online co-op.

  • 01.08.2012 9:37 AM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
What's astounding to me is I had a pilot hop out of a Pelican on Outskirts. He was no usual Marine, he had a bunch of special stuff no other Marine has, including a big visor.

The Marine that got in your Pelican was a regular Marine, right, nothing special? That is astounding to me, I thought only specific Pilots would get back in. He must have thought it was a Hog, lol.

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc. The only difference is the skin/model they are give. So in essence, any Marine can get back into the Pelican since the seat isn't locked to them, provided they can reach it if the Pelican isn't flipping. I've just never seen it happen before.

As for the Pilot with a bunch of special stuff, this is because the game has loads of different variants of the Marine and since the Pilots aren't meant to be seen, it sometimes assigns a random clothing assortment. This was a problem that I had back when I tried to play the entire campaign as an ODST but I figured it out. Hopefully this makes sense.

There is potential, now that we're aware that Marines can get back into the Pelican. I'd also like to finally point out this video was not modded in anyway, the only mods I use are on H2V and that's strictly online co-op.
Did the marines that got in have weapons?

[Edited on 01.08.2012 12:48 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 9:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

The video is here but please note it is incredibly poor quality, but hopefully you can see what i mean. Has this happened to anyone else before?

Lol that's better quality than my dazzle.

But in all seriousness that is very odd.

  • 01.08.2012 9:54 AM PDT
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Do you have the footage of when the marine went in the Pelican?

Posted by: Wilis_kid

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc.
Hey, I've heard that the Elites and marines in H2 share the same AI. And I think I've seen it when modding H2 AI, which is very limited in Vista. If they do share the same general AI, doesn't that mean Elites can also drive the Pelican?

I heard it from here: too bad the [styl] and [char] views are unfinished as those would probably hold key-AI elements I'd like to mod to make them smarter and more varied as the marines and the elites share the same AI in H2

[Edited on 01.08.2012 2:55 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 2:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1

Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1
What's astounding to me is I had a pilot hop out of a Pelican on Outskirts. He was no usual Marine, he had a bunch of special stuff no other Marine has, including a big visor.

The Marine that got in your Pelican was a regular Marine, right, nothing special? That is astounding to me, I thought only specific Pilots would get back in. He must have thought it was a Hog, lol.

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc. The only difference is the skin/model they are give. So in essence, any Marine can get back into the Pelican since the seat isn't locked to them, provided they can reach it if the Pelican isn't flipping. I've just never seen it happen before.

As for the Pilot with a bunch of special stuff, this is because the game has loads of different variants of the Marine and since the Pilots aren't meant to be seen, it sometimes assigns a random clothing assortment. This was a problem that I had back when I tried to play the entire campaign as an ODST but I figured it out. Hopefully this makes sense.

There is potential, now that we're aware that Marines can get back into the Pelican. I'd also like to finally point out this video was not modded in anyway, the only mods I use are on H2V and that's strictly online co-op.
Did the marines that got in have weapons?

Marines were all your average joe that you find during the game. I believe one was carrying a turret as well but I think he got in the cockpit after another Marine got in the Pilot seat.

  • 01.08.2012 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Do you have the footage of when the marine went in the Pelican?

Posted by: Wilis_kid

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc.
Hey, I've heard that the Elites and marines in H2 share the same AI. And I think I've seen it when modding H2 AI, which is very limited in Vista. If they do share the same general AI, doesn't that mean Elites can also drive the Pelican?

I heard it from here: too bad the [styl] and [char] views are unfinished as those would probably hold key-AI elements I'd like to mod to make them smarter and more varied as the marines and the elites share the same AI in H2

Unfortunately I do not, I wasn't planning on recording this launch at the time since it was harmless fun with a friend on co-op to see who could launch to the Scarab gun first when suddenly a Marine foiled our plans by doing this.

As for the Elites, i'm not sure. I could double check if I find my old Xbox and boot up some of the old programs (can't remember all of them, DotHalo springs to mind and there was another very important one for swapping tags) but as far as I know, it's a matter of unlocking seats for the player. The AI may do things differently, but I may try playing as a Marine on Vista and just getting into the Pelican, provided the game doesn't crash...it tends to crash a hell of a lot more than the Xbox version with character mods, only instance i had with that on the Xbox was when I was playing as a Human Combat Form which when the body was destroyed crashed the console. But if I can get in the pelican as a Marine and an Elite without changing the Pelican seat, it will prove that it's possible, at least their biped/model lets them. If not, then it could be down to AI which I would have no way of testing, at least not on Vista.

I will report back here if i can find anything for you Sliding Ghost.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 4:03 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 4:00 PM PDT


Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Wilis_kid

The video is here but please note it is incredibly poor quality, but hopefully you can see what i mean. Has this happened to anyone else before?

Lol that's better quality than my dazzle.

But in all seriousness that is very odd.

Iphone 3GS camera xD Didn't have a capture card on hand and I wasn't on Halo 2 Vista at the time so I had no decent method of capturing gameplay.

I'd like to try to recreate this on Vista or if I buy a capture card at some point, the Xbox.

  • 01.08.2012 4:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Do you have the footage of when the marine went in the Pelican?

Posted by: Wilis_kid

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc.
Hey, I've heard that the Elites and marines in H2 share the same AI. And I think I've seen it when modding H2 AI, which is very limited in Vista. If they do share the same general AI, doesn't that mean Elites can also drive the Pelican?

I heard it from here: too bad the [styl] and [char] views are unfinished as those would probably hold key-AI elements I'd like to mod to make them smarter and more varied as the marines and the elites share the same AI in H2

Unfortunately I do not, I wasn't planning on recording this launch at the time since it was harmless fun with a friend on co-op to see who could launch to the Scarab gun first when suddenly a Marine foiled our plans by doing this.

As for the Elites, i'm not sure. I could double check if I find my old Xbox and boot up some of the old programs (can't remember all of them, DotHalo springs to mind and there was another very important one for swapping tags) but as far as I know, it's a matter of unlocking seats for the player. The AI may do things differently, but I may try playing as a Marine on Vista and just getting into the Pelican, provided the game doesn't crash...it tends to crash a hell of a lot more than the Xbox version with character mods, only instance i had with that on the Xbox was when I was playing as a Human Combat Form which when the body was destroyed crashed the console.

I will report back here if i can find anything for you Sliding Ghost.
I thought the seats were already unlocked.

  • 01.08.2012 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1

Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Do you have the footage of when the marine went in the Pelican?

Posted by: Wilis_kid

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc.
Hey, I've heard that the Elites and marines in H2 share the same AI. And I think I've seen it when modding H2 AI, which is very limited in Vista. If they do share the same general AI, doesn't that mean Elites can also drive the Pelican?

I heard it from here: too bad the [styl] and [char] views are unfinished as those would probably hold key-AI elements I'd like to mod to make them smarter and more varied as the marines and the elites share the same AI in H2

Unfortunately I do not, I wasn't planning on recording this launch at the time since it was harmless fun with a friend on co-op to see who could launch to the Scarab gun first when suddenly a Marine foiled our plans by doing this.

As for the Elites, i'm not sure. I could double check if I find my old Xbox and boot up some of the old programs (can't remember all of them, DotHalo springs to mind and there was another very important one for swapping tags) but as far as I know, it's a matter of unlocking seats for the player. The AI may do things differently, but I may try playing as a Marine on Vista and just getting into the Pelican, provided the game doesn't crash...it tends to crash a hell of a lot more than the Xbox version with character mods, only instance i had with that on the Xbox was when I was playing as a Human Combat Form which when the body was destroyed crashed the console.

I will report back here if i can find anything for you Sliding Ghost.
I thought the seats were already unlocked.

The driver seats aren't usually to the player, at least from memory I don't think they were though I could be wrong. I remember having to change the Pelican pilot seat to a Warthog driver seat so the game would allow me to get in and fly it. I'll try it without changing anything as a marine and report back, provided H2V doesn't crash.

EDIT - H2V hates these kinda mods. Looks like I can't check for you Sliding Ghost until I find my Xbox.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 4:46 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 4:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Grumpy1

Posted by: Wilis_kid

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Do you have the footage of when the marine went in the Pelican?

Posted by: Wilis_kid

I can explain that (I used to be a modder for both Halo 2 Xbox custom games/campaign and Halo 2 Vista). All Marines including the pilots are the same, they have all the same features etc.
Hey, I've heard that the Elites and marines in H2 share the same AI. And I think I've seen it when modding H2 AI, which is very limited in Vista. If they do share the same general AI, doesn't that mean Elites can also drive the Pelican?

I heard it from here: too bad the [styl] and [char] views are unfinished as those would probably hold key-AI elements I'd like to mod to make them smarter and more varied as the marines and the elites share the same AI in H2

Unfortunately I do not, I wasn't planning on recording this launch at the time since it was harmless fun with a friend on co-op to see who could launch to the Scarab gun first when suddenly a Marine foiled our plans by doing this.

As for the Elites, i'm not sure. I could double check if I find my old Xbox and boot up some of the old programs (can't remember all of them, DotHalo springs to mind and there was another very important one for swapping tags) but as far as I know, it's a matter of unlocking seats for the player. The AI may do things differently, but I may try playing as a Marine on Vista and just getting into the Pelican, provided the game doesn't crash...it tends to crash a hell of a lot more than the Xbox version with character mods, only instance i had with that on the Xbox was when I was playing as a Human Combat Form which when the body was destroyed crashed the console.

I will report back here if i can find anything for you Sliding Ghost.
I thought the seats were already unlocked.

The driver seats aren't usually to the player, at least from memory I don't think they were though I could be wrong. I remember having to change the Pelican pilot seat to a Warthog driver seat so the game would allow me to get in and fly it. I'll try it without changing anything as a marine and report back, provided H2V doesn't crash.

EDIT - H2V hates these kinda mods. Looks like I can't check for you Sliding Ghost until I find my Xbox.
Wait, what? Are you saying this might be a mod, I don't understand?

  • 01.08.2012 5:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1

Wait, what? Are you saying this might be a mod, I don't understand?

My apologise, Sliding Ghost wondered if the Elites could drive the Pelican too, but I thought the seats to the Pelican were locked and to double check, I went to see if I could get in the Pelican as a Marine myself without any changes to the Pelican.

The video on Youtube was not a mod, that was pure Halo 2 on Xbox 360. Halo 2 Vista isn't letting me check to see if I can enter a Pelican as a Marine myself without modding the seat because it keeps crashing. Those kind of mods only work on the original Xbox.

As for the video, i'm going to try to recreate this with a Ghost or Scorpion on hand when I get the time (which again to reiterate, was without mods)

[Edited on 01.08.2012 5:20 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 5:12 PM PDT

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