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Subject: The Bible holds the answers...
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the bible has nothing to do with religion! you have to seperate (organised) religion from spirituality!...dont get me wrong, i consider myself a "god"loving spiritual person or "christian" even if I dont believe jesus christ was a living person, because i know most of the bible is just a STORY or a metaphor!...it is also some sort of a "redemption story"....its "The Greatest STORY Ever Told"....

http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/astromain1a.html


ive studied the bible and our own little "end times scenario" aka "new world order -one world government- illuminati conspiracy" for about 3 years now, and im totallly convinced that halos story (microsoft ;)) is based on the bible...no doubt in my mind!

so many videogames (and movies) these days like halo or MGS do have those NWO propaganda features like UN world government(or one world order), outside alien threat to humanity(whether real or promulgated), government coverops etc etc

dont get me wrong, i love halo and many other games, i think their stories are still very fascinating...

but what i was trying to tell you is to stop confusing religion and spirituality....the bible is just a simple wonderful story, just like the quran etc....you can read em and "follow" em without beeing religious, without visiting a church or a mosque etc...your moral instincts dont come from churches or priests or any other men ;)

and btw i love all your theories about the ark and the rest of the halo story...i really enjoy reading this forum....keep it up!









  • 05.12.2006 5:51 PM PDT

“But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God..."

Posted by: vicious169
wow yet another way christians try to force their religion on other people...this is truly pathetic even comparing the storyline of a damn game to the bible....it just makes me wanna puke how you bible thumping hypocrites think your the center of the universe and that all your words are truths


I presume your talking about bungie being the pathetic bible thumping hyprocrites? Gotcha;) Curious, since when is symbolism an identification or admission that something is true or is not true? Pulling at straws I think.

What you are seeing here are people who are interested in a deeper storyline and plot than what most fans see as a great first person shooter. In an attempt to look at each and every detail that bungie has provided, we can get clues to what is to come in the next game and books. Its simply fun and not a statement of a particular faith or requirement for you to believe in anything. Man, we live in a free country. Believe whatever you want. Relish it. Don't flame other because they think something different than you.

That is, unless you think Halo is only about a guy in a suit and a first person shooter.

  • 05.12.2006 5:53 PM PDT
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so what if i get black listed ittle just make the mods hypocrites cuz last i checked it said no religious babble and its a DAMN GAME it has nothing to do with that crap get over it go play the bible game and stop bringin all the cool stuff down

  • 05.12.2006 5:54 PM PDT
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There are no irrelevant quotes of historical figures here. Neither will you find any links, chain posts, memes, clan advertisements, self-promotions, or the tiniest of ASCII pictures.

So go away.

No.

It does not make sense. There are no viable direct comparisons between any of these concepts. The use of religious terminology started in Halo with the word "Covenant" and there have been countless others since. Focusing on any particular ones, or assuming that the plot will follow a parallel to the related Bible stories has no precedent in the game. Can anyone tell me an example from Halo or Halo 2 where something named after something in the Bible was directly related to it's Biblical source?

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Posted by: vicious169
so what if i get black listed ittle just make the mods hypocrites cuz last i checked it said no religious babble and its a DAMN GAME it has nothing to do with that crap get over it go play the bible game and stop bringin all the cool stuff down


No, it says not to convert some one or try to.They are jsut speculating on what STORY of the game is about,Bungie is not trying to convert any body, PLus if it were based off the bible it'd be A=Hug the Alien Y=Kiss the Alein

  • 05.12.2006 6:48 PM PDT

I dont think it goes nearly as deep into the bible as everyone is thinking. There may be a few refrences, but not enough for it to be a big deal.

  • 05.12.2006 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: o0 The One 0o
I dont think it goes nearly as deep into the bible as everyone is thinking. There may be a few refrences, but not enough for it to be a big deal.


Maybe your not thinking enough...oh wait most people use ten% of their brains right?You only use .000000000000000000000000003% of your brain so never mind, you can't think that deep any way.

  • 05.12.2006 6:59 PM PDT
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Two great works of fiction.

  • 05.12.2006 7:02 PM PDT
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It's kind of weird how this hasnt been closed yet. hmmm

  • 05.12.2006 7:05 PM PDT
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the story of halo goes as deep as people make it if we wish to create an entire universe baced off of what we know and what we've created out of "fractures" in the halo universe just let us, you dont have to post that you dissagree please just let us have our fun. i've participated in many of the halo fracture discussions like the flood or the ciro stations's fireing mechinizms. if we aim to add what we belive in into a story its not making it worse its only making it more beliveable (althought its clearly fictional) for all of us who have simular views. This game series isnt as shallow as shallow as you aim it to be, there are some of us who think deeper about things and try to exspand the game's dimentions. our view of the halo universe is alot bigget that what the books, or games have shown keep that in mind.

  • 05.12.2006 7:09 PM PDT
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Biblical referances in this video game are

1 The flood is just like the judgement upon wicked people in Genisis with noah

2 Noah escaped in the Ark which references to what the fore runners used to survive when they activated the rings

3 in proverbs there is a reference to the armor of god and then cortana makes her quote

4 Also other references like in king arther and his trusty magician friend Spartan 117 has Cortana!

5 there is so much more that I cannot count sorry but I have to leave off

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  • 05.12.2006 7:12 PM PDT
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The Bibile can be linked to almost any story. It was created to be the ultimate influence. Since it is one of historys longest and well known stories there are definetly many writers who draw inspiration from its pages. Don't be so surprised.

  • 05.12.2006 7:16 PM PDT
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i dont know it is tough to say. the noah's ark theory and my theory (the arc of the covenant) are very good because either way they could both work. would you rather have to start over (noah's) or become invincible(the arc of the covenant).

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  • 05.12.2006 7:19 PM PDT
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You are absolutely right. In the trailer, the glowing light was Jesus coming back to kick some Covie ass, wasn't it.

  • 05.12.2006 7:19 PM PDT
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In a way I believe this because like The Rizza said the flood could be our sins that are killing us and MC could be looked at like he is Jesus dieing for our sins... maybe thats how its gonna be for the conclusion for Halo 3, plus I always thought back when we were playing Halo that MC would die to save us all, but seeing as the covenant have takin over Earth, who knows whos left?

  • 05.12.2006 7:20 PM PDT
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well i belive the flood are like you said the sin of man. they were created by the forrunner (us, well they looked like us anyway) just like man kind created sin.

i also believe that the ark the chief is on is like a wierd fusion of the ark oc the covenant (our covie buddies) and noah's.
i think that the 7 halos represent something of divine influence, not sure what i may be wrong.
well i sorta think your on the right track there Eyeshine

  • 05.12.2006 7:27 PM PDT

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Good job on the theory, I and many others are with you on that..so maybe since it's such common knowledge, it will be true =D

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I think your theroy is very plausible. it acctually makes since and has proof unlike other theories.

  • 05.12.2006 7:29 PM PDT
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Nice "work" and all.


But the most i see have a huge holes in them.

  • 05.12.2006 7:30 PM PDT

i agree with all of u guys. I think the maker of Halo is maybe christian. Halo 3's story is gonna be soo complicated

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  • 05.12.2006 7:34 PM PDT
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One person said that the Ark, or whatever, Does not kill the pure spirited so then it shouldn't Kill the Master Chief, IF every thing here is correct.

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  • 05.12.2006 7:38 PM PDT

niiice gun

  • 05.12.2006 7:40 PM PDT
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i dont believe cheif is pure spirited

  • 05.12.2006 7:40 PM PDT
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This topic is soo interesting, I spent the last hour and 30 mins. reading every word from the begining... so what maybe I read slow, it helps me to remember things easily

  • 05.12.2006 7:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartan PO1
i dont believe cheif is pure spirited


Me neither, But if when the Ark goes off is One thrids(1/3) way through the game, then we have no one to play as.

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  • 05.12.2006 7:43 PM PDT

I'm only human. So are you...

I think Bungie created Halo entirely on biblical roots.

Ark=Noahs Ark

Truth and Reconciliation=A level in Halo CE in which the Chief retrieves Keyes from the evil clutches of the Covenant. Seen from another view, he was saved and given another chance at life. Truth and reconciliation, isnt it?

Great Journey=Journey to Heaven

Covenant=Promise, or vow

Prophets of Truth, etc= Bible has many prophets speaking of salvation and the great journey into paradise

MasterChief=Jesus; saving humanity from evil

The Flood=The Great Flood from the bible consumed everything except Noah and his family, which were IN the ARK. The Ark in Africa was created to activate and destroy the Flood's food, thus killing all flood. Only the beings ON EARTH, OR IN THE ARK, would survive.

Two Betrayals=In the Bible, Judas betrays Jesus, and before Jesus dies, he says "father, father, why have you forsaken me" or why have you betrayed me. Thats two betrayals right there.

Sacred Icon=Jesus died on a cross, and the Index looks almost like a cross.

Heretics=Biblical rebels, people who went against the traditional religion of the Priests.

If I think of anymore, I will add them here.



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  • 05.12.2006 7:44 PM PDT