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You guys know if theres anything in the bible about the seventh column?

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umm guys the ark on earth just kills without discrimination it was disined to kill everything that the flood could use as a food source or host go back and play H1 (two betrayals)

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It was designed to kill everyone except Earth.

7th column can probably relate to the way God performed 7 miracles, or how he created the Earth in 7 days, or how Jesus was 7 years old when he slipped away from his parents and went to a column-shaped temple to preach to men.

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Posted by: souleater008_2
umm guys the ark on earth just kills without discrimination it was disined to kill everything that the flood could use as a food source or host go back and play H1 (two betrayals)


I did-I've played the game 10 time 5 time on Regular Xbox 5 times on Xbox360 and even more times then the 10, that was my favorite level, in both halo games,so I palyed it more then 50 times. I know,but look at the trailer.If Master Chief was standing in the same place in the game at the when the Ark goes off then We have no one to play as.

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Posted by: Tactical Fire
It was designed to kill everyone except Earth.

7th column can probably relate to the way God performed 7 miracles, or how he created the Earth in 7 days, or how Jesus was 7 years old when he slipped away from his parents and went to a column-shaped temple to preach to men.


Is that really true? Wow IM SMAT! (smart hillbilly-style)

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My Theory..

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You know if you really think about what Cortana says at the end of the Halo 3 Trailer "This is the way the world ends" maybe thats really what she means, that at the end of Halo 3 the Covenant activate the ark and in a second they realize what dumb -blam!- they are then they think they might be able to get away from it. Just a thought...

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I think when it says This is the Way the World Ends it means THis is the way the world ends, unless you stop it from happening.

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Posted by: Tactical Fire
I think Bungie created Halo entirely on biblical roots.

Ark=Noahs Ark

Truth and Reconciliation=A level in Halo CE in which the Chief retrieves Keyes from the evil clutches of the Covenant. Seen from another view, he was saved and given another chance at life. Truth and reconciliation, isnt it?

Great Journey=Journey to Heaven

Covenant=Promise, or vow

Prophets of Truth, etc= Bible has many prophets speaking of salvation and the great journey into paradise

MasterChief=Jesus; saving humanity from evil

The Flood=The Great Flood from the bible consumed everything except Noah and his family, which were IN the ARK. The Ark in Africa was created to activate and destroy the Flood's food, thus killing all flood. Only the beings ON EARTH, OR IN THE ARK, would survive.

Two Betrayals=In the Bible, Judas betrays Jesus, and before Jesus dies, he says "father, father, why have you forsaken me" or why have you betrayed me. Thats two betrayals right there.

Sacred Icon=Jesus died on a cross, and the Index looks almost like a cross.

Heretics=Biblical rebels, people who went against the traditional religion of the Priests.

If I think of anymore, I will add them here.


Good post. Somewhere in The Book of Revelation doesn't it say something about people following "false prophets”? That would really connect these blind worshiping alien races into false beliefs which in turn will lead to their death. And also Halo's, maybe as in Angel Halo's?. When you read stuff from the bible it’s really no coincidence why Bungie uses the number 7 soo many times.

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or the arc= the Arc of the Covenant

Flood=sins of everybody and the Arc of the Covenant must be revived to enforce the laws and show mercy. Prophet of Mercy

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Hey what if Master Chief was the Right Hand of God? You know like his name wouldn't fit (I think its Gabrel (Sorry if I spelt it wrong)) I really don't know much about the Right Hand of God but I think its someone who brings justice... right?

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Posted by: Bloodglitch
In a way I believe this because like The Rizza said the flood could be our sins that are killing us and MC could be looked at like he is Jesus dieing for our sins... maybe thats how its gonna be for the conclusion for Halo 3, plus I always thought back when we were playing Halo that MC would die to save us all, but seeing as the covenant have takin over Earth, who knows whos left?



Well seeing if MC is Jesus Christ dieing for our sins, then that would mean he would be resurected.

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I did-I've played the game 10 time 5 time on Regular Xbox 5 times on Xbox360 and even more times then the 10, that was my favorite level, in both halo games,so I palyed it more then 50 times. I know,but look at the trailer.If Master Chief was standing in the same place in the game at the when the Ark goes off then We have no one to play as.

news flash the ark hasnt be activated (i know i know the trailer had the thing going off, its a trailer) only one halo has been activated and no it dosnt kill flood or affect anything on it just things around it. thats why we have to deal with the flood.

trailers are just samples tidbits look at the halo 2 trailer demo thing then at the real thing (there is mayjor diffrences)

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Posted by: Tactical Fire
I think Bungie created Halo entirely on biblical roots.

Ark=Noahs Ark

Truth and Reconciliation=A level in Halo CE in which the Chief retrieves Keyes from the evil clutches of the Covenant. Seen from another view, he was saved and given another chance at life. Truth and reconciliation, isnt it?

Great Journey=Journey to Heaven

Covenant=Promise, or vow

Prophets of Truth, etc= Bible has many prophets speaking of salvation and the great journey into paradise

MasterChief=Jesus; saving humanity from evil

The Flood=The Great Flood from the bible consumed everything except Noah and his family, which were IN the ARK. The Ark in Africa was created to activate and destroy the Flood's food, thus killing all flood. Only the beings ON EARTH, OR IN THE ARK, would survive.

Two Betrayals=In the Bible, Judas betrays Jesus, and before Jesus dies, he says "father, father, why have you forsaken me" or why have you betrayed me. Thats two betrayals right there.

Sacred Icon=Jesus died on a cross, and the Index looks almost like a cross.

Heretics=Biblical rebels, people who went against the traditional religion of the Priests.

If I think of anymore, I will add them here.


I think you took too many things into account...like the Sacred icon thing, or when you said John was Jesus...he isn't.

John is modeled after a person in the bible (John:117, I believe), and I'm guessing that that person tried the same thing that Jesus did, or was just an HxC Christian who had enough inflence and he got into the bible..

If someone looks into the bible and finds something similar to the Halo story line..just look for other things that happen around them, add guns and more gore. Find the people it focuses on, and give them a futuristic energy shield and body armor and we have ourselves a Top-Selling video game plot..
Either way, Master Chief John 117 is the Savior of Humanity..

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Who was Gabriel in the bible? Was he close to Jesus?

Maybe Cortana=Gabriel in Bungie's storyline..

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Herm soo many overlooked details and not nearly enough time to correct people. Just to let you know there are two arks as described in the biblical texts that make up the old testament. There is the ark of noah which was an item of salvation and protection from a flood sent by god and there was also the ark of the covenenet which was described as a weapon of immense power (sound like something we know *hint rings capable of whiping out all sentient life*)

I'm just here to try to discourage another wave of rambling idiots from spamming and respamming this beaten horse of repeated theories involving the possible connection of the halo ark and noah's ark all the while not factoring in the potential links of the ark of the covenent.

I personally think that the very descriptions of these two arks fits perfectly into the halo storyline.
On one side the covies think that the halos are a weapon (as they are) and this could be tied to the biblical ark of the covenent, though at the same time this halo ark appears to be used in a similar manner as noah's ark in that it protects one from the flood. This could either mean that both interprentations are correct or perhaps one is in the right direction while the other is wrong.

On one train of thought it could be that it does serve both purposes but by only doing one thing. Such as yes you would be saved from the flood if you allowed yourself to be killed by the rings rather than the flood. In this twisted sense one could feel they were saved. Such as if the forerunners had some unknown views of life after death or supersticion about impurity of a corpse then perhaps they saw death in a massive suicide as being some sort of salvation from the damnation of the flood.

Or there is the less likely chance that the noah side of the ark is used in halo and perhaps it did create a sanctuary of sorts for either forerunner or another.

Though my personal view is that it filled this double role as weapon and protector by acting as a weapon to all life it killed the flood expansion and effectively quarantined the flood through massive sentient life quarantine. Now knowing that the flood are all consuming and merely defile their hosts until they are created into carrier forms or until they are used up in warrior forms perhaps they realized that if they were not stopped they would expand like a virus and would eventually eat the universe dry of biodiversity (as the biblical flood killed off almost all life) Though with the halo ark in effect it did kill off all sentient life but it left sub sentient life or pre life beings to develop and start existance in a new form this would efffectively save a future generation (as was intended by allowing 2 of each animal to not exactly save the current groups of living beings but just leave almost enough to repopulate in some manner) of any life form. As without this taking place the flood would merely expand and any attempt at future biodiversity would be quickly eaten before it could evolve over the millions of years it would be picked up in that time and killed off by such a parasite. So in an odd way you do save life by killing it.

So on a larger much less selfish scale (that I assume the forerunner operated on) they did create a naoh style salvation for all non flood life by sacrificing the current generation of sentients (to the ark of the covie style ark that was a weapon) to ensure a flood domination free universe to give hope for future non flood life.

That is my theory only involving the twin ark meanings. Obviously I cannot prove it as no one here can but that is why it is only a theory.

Oh also you are not at all original in creating another one of these religous ties threads as every other forum is already spammed with them and yet still they happen to be all started up by people who have no direct access to a biblical scholar to actually point such issues out.

Please I request someone with some history as a biblical scholar to come here and manage one of these threads correctly least we be comsumed by the flood of spam created by children who make simple connections between religous stories they were read to in their younger years and then try to make simple all too obvious connections before checking to see if that idea was already suggested a few thousand times before the idea ever struck his/ her head.

Also who says John is humanity's savoir? perhaps he fills the role of an angel perhaps as he attempts to guide the humans through and tries to save them but on his own he may not be able to save humanity from its impending doom. Or maybe he is a rider of the apocalypse and by him interupting the firing of the halo ring from halo 1 he really is a demon for the rings may truly hold salvation.

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Ok I think U have a point there

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Posted by: Bloodglitch
You guys know if theres anything in the bible about the seventh column?


Yes, Proverbs 9:1, NIV.
Wisdom has built her house;
she has hewn it out its seven pillars.

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Posted by: Mr Pink7103
Though my personal view is that it filled this double role as weapon and protector ....


Wouldn't that bring to life Cortana's phrase "I am your Shield, I am your Sword."?

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Posted by: Mr Pink7103
Herm soo many overlooked details and not nearly enough time to correct people. Just to let you know there are two arks as described in the biblical texts that make up the old testament. There is the ark of noah which was an item of salvation and protection from a flood sent by god and there was also the ark of the covenenet which was described as a weapon of immense power (sound like something we know *hint rings capable of whiping out all sentient life*)

I'm just here to try to discourage another wave of rambling idiots from spamming and respamming this beaten horse of repeated theories involving the possible connection of the halo ark and noah's ark all the while not factoring in the potential links of the ark of the covenent.

I personally think that the very descriptions of these two arks fits perfectly into the halo storyline.
On one side the covies think that the halos are a weapon (as they are) and this could be tied to the biblical ark of the covenent, though at the same time this halo ark appears to be used in a similar manner as noah's ark in that it protects one from the flood. This could either mean that both interprentations are correct or perhaps one is in the right direction while the other is wrong.

On one train of thought it could be that it does serve both purposes but by only doing one thing. Such as yes you would be saved from the flood if you allowed yourself to be killed by the rings rather than the flood. In this twisted sense one could feel they were saved. Such as if the forerunners had some unknown views of life after death or supersticion about impurity of a corpse then perhaps they saw death in a massive suicide as being some sort of salvation from the damnation of the flood.

Or there is the less likely chance that the noah side of the ark is used in halo and perhaps it did create a sanctuary of sorts for either forerunner or another.

Though my personal view is that it filled this double role as weapon and protector by acting as a weapon to all life it killed the flood expansion and effectively quarantined the flood through massive sentient life quarantine. Now knowing that the flood are all consuming and merely defile their hosts until they are created into carrier forms or until they are used up in warrior forms perhaps they realized that if they were not stopped they would expand like a virus and would eventually eat the universe dry of biodiversity (as the biblical flood killed off almost all life) Though with the halo ark in effect it did kill off all sentient life but it left sub sentient life or pre life beings to develop and start existance in a new form this would efffectively save a future generation (as was intended by allowing 2 of each animal to not exactly save the current groups of living beings but just leave almost enough to repopulate in some manner) of any life form. As without this taking place the flood would merely expand and any attempt at future biodiversity would be quickly eaten before it could evolve over the millions of years it would be picked up in that time and killed off by such a parasite. So in an odd way you do save life by killing it.

So on a larger much less selfish scale (that I assume the forerunner operated on) they did create a naoh style salvation for all non flood life by sacrificing the current generation of sentients (to the ark of the covie style ark that was a weapon) to ensure a flood domination free universe to give hope for future non flood life.

That is my theory only involving the twin ark meanings. Obviously I cannot prove it as no one here can but that is why it is only a theory.

Oh also you are not at all original in creating another one of these religous ties threads as every other forum is already spammed with them and yet still they happen to be all started up by people who have no direct access to a biblical scholar to actually point such issues out.

Please I request someone with some history as a biblical scholar to come here and manage one of these threads correctly least we be comsumed by the flood of spam created by children who make simple connections between religous stories they were read to in their younger years and then try to make simple all too obvious connections before checking to see if that idea was already suggested a few thousand times before the idea ever struck his/ her head.

Also who says John is humanity's savoir? perhaps he fills the role of an angel perhaps as he attempts to guide the humans through and tries to save them but on his own he may not be able to save humanity from its impending doom. Or maybe he is a rider of the apocalypse and by him interupting the firing of the halo ring from halo 1 he really is a demon for the rings may truly hold salvation.

I agree with the Halos being the Arc of the Covenant..and them being the super weapon.

The Arc on Earth is like Noah's Arc, and [obviously, we are here today] Anything on Earth will be saved, and The Arc of the Covenant (Halos) kill everything/everyone else..

The Sturcture openning may only be part of the Arc..the Arc has 2 functions:
1. Keep everyone on it [Earth] safe
2. Activate Halos by remote activation [if needed]


Your theory was hard for me to understand..but thanks for helping me remember the Arc of the Covenant and that the Halos can be an Arc too.



By the way everyone, if you want to know why all the '7' references...here.

Man = 5
Devil = 6
Holy pplz = 7

555 - Dominos deal
666 - Mentioned in metal music
777 - Humanity's savior

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Posted by: Mr Pink7103
Though my personal view is that it filled this double role as weapon and protector ....


Wouldn't that bring to life Cortana's phrase "I am your Shield, I am your Sword."?

YES!

Sword - Arc of the Covenants (Halos)
Shield - Arc (on Earth)

Maybe she gets into the mainframe somehow (like how she hacks into Halos systems to teleport you to the level 'Keyes' in Halo CE..

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i have no idea what r u guys talking about cause i'm muslim the theorys does make sense but try to explain more about it

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Posted by: Jewish Grandma
What would the bible have to do with a VIDEO GAME. Bible= used to feel spiritual. GAMES= used to get entertained.


You're in a thread with abundant evidence yet you don't make a connection, are you retarded or just saying something stupid?

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Posted by: Jewish Grandma
What would the bible have to do with a VIDEO GAME. Bible= used to feel spiritual. GAMES= used to get entertained.


You're in a thread with abundant evidence yet you don't make a connection, are you retarded or just saying something stupid?


Hes Retarded and saying something stupid.

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