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Subject: The real problem is that there is no real problem

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

We all bicker because we disagree over things. Little flaws in the rules, features that should be highly considered for application to the site, so many tears over the title system but the real problem here on the b.net forums that has caused so much argumentative chatter between one another is because this place has no real problems at all. It has become a race to see who can try and create the biggest fake problem, essentially.

When I say there is no real problems, I mean it word for word with no hidden meanings so please don't disect that statement. There are only individuals who want more of something or they are picky and can't get over something that may bug them a bit. Whatever it is, these forums are clean and prestige. The are operating more effediently and beautifully than they have since I've been around, at least. They are well moderated and with this little bit of down time between game releases, the pace is easily manageable and that is why more mods have yet to been selected.

Titles aren't truly a problem, people really just can't find anything else to complain about. The only issue with titles isn't even a problem with how the system works, it is the fact that half the community doesn't appreciate them. That's it, nothing else. The appreciation levels lead to arguments between those who do appreciate them and the unappreciative ones. And this thread is not another title thread so I'm going to leave it at that.

Once Bungie releases their new IP and the game launch nears, a flood of members will flow in. Some will be ignorant, some rude and obnoxious, and yes, even some severely unappreciative of anything but still seem to waste their breath around the forums. But once these new members come about, these "problems" we currently discuss in what seems to be an endless loop for the last year or so will cease and be forgotten about. Everyone will forget about these "issues" because they really arent issues at all, simply a way to pass the time. This is what I mean by the only problem is that there is no real problem. These arguments that I see numerous users get so hostile are only happening because we have nothing else to talk about. The minds of individuals are shifting and don't realize that nothing can't be done about it.

To sum everything up, why so serious? Realize that yes, the b.net forums are a bit "slow" right now. Honestly, I've seen the forums three times slower than this. Step back and ask yourself, "Is this really an life-altering issue that deserves the harsh words that I have typed?" When activity picks back up, remember this thread and take a look at the first page of threads here in the Septagon. Not one elitism thread, "Titles should be removed" thread, or "Bungie doesn't care" thread will be around for discussion. Why? Because we will all have more to discuss and stop whining about these little things because we nothing else to whine about.

Just take it easy and enjoy the ride, no matter how slow.

Thank you.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:02 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 9:48 AM PDT

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Where is this people complaining about titles you speak of?

Also,

Almost ALL forums have titles to show how long people have been a part.

It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.

  • 01.08.2012 9:50 AM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: Spartan091693
It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.
Impatient and unappreciative

  • 01.08.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Spartan091693
It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.
Impatient and unappreciative


With time comes knowledge and knowledge is power

  • 01.08.2012 9:53 AM PDT

Agian, the title issues really seem overlooked. Just ignore people who seriously complain about it, if it really bothers you.

  • 01.08.2012 9:54 AM PDT
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I agree. For some reason people seem to be compelled to constantly make threads and with it being slow the only thing they can do is complain about small things.
However, I guess I'd take the threads of petty complaints over the alternative of practically nothing.

Posted by: Spartan091693
Where is this people complaining about titles you speak of?

The title system is one of the most consistently repeated issues.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 9:57 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 9:56 AM PDT

Posted by: American Recoil
Their are only individuals who want more of something or they are picky and can't get over something that may bug them a bit.


*twitch*

Musn't... prove... the Op's point...

  • 01.08.2012 9:57 AM PDT
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Why are you reading my signature? Who actually opens these things and reads them!

And as always, SEND ME A PM. Please. Or really bad things will happen to you.

Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: American Recoil
Their are only individuals who want more of something or they are picky and can't get over something that may bug them a bit.


*twitch*

Musn't... prove... the Op's point...

I feel the same way.

Honestly, if it weren't for those threads there would be nothing to talk about. So, while the same repeat threads containing the same bickering may get old eventually they are much more entertaining than the alternative. Something is always better than nothing.

  • 01.08.2012 10:00 AM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: American Recoil
Their are only individuals who want more of something or they are picky and can't get over something that may bug them a bit.


*twitch*

Musn't... prove... the Op's point...
Sigh... Apple's auto correct has been killing me. I really thought I found all the silly mistakes.

  • 01.08.2012 10:01 AM PDT

@spawn031

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Posted by: American Recoil
Why so serious?

Anybody else see this as a headliner on Bungie.net's homepage?

Bungie.net - Why so serious?

OT: I completely agree. The only problems with this community is the problems that we create ourselves.

  • 01.08.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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I think we should all blame stosh and move on.

  • 01.08.2012 10:03 AM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: spawn031
Posted by: American Recoil
Why so serious?

Anybody else see this as a headliner on Bungie.net's homepage?

Bungie.net - Why so serious?

OT: I completely agree. The only problems with this community is the problems that we create ourselves.
Precisely, an odd science, huh?

  • 01.08.2012 10:03 AM PDT

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Ironically, I don't see the problem. Suggesting an improvement is not the same as complaining about a petty problem. And "complaining" can, on occasion, be very beneficial to the community. I've honestly not seen many threads that complained and were useless.

  • 01.08.2012 10:11 AM PDT

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Haha, it's funny how true this is. That's what people do on the Internet though, complain about stuff. Complaining about stuff is a source of conversation for many. However sad that may be, it's true.

There's just nothing to discuss without a Bungie game out. This is going to continue until Destiny is officially announced.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:14 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 10:13 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

So basically what you are saying is that the responsibility falls on us, the members, to cause real problems in the community. Alright, I can get on board with that, I think you've picked a fairly inappropriate avenue to advertise it though. Your B.net terrorist movement is going to burn out before it even gets of f the ground if you just recruit in the lion's den here.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:16 AM PST]

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
So basically what you are saying is that the responsibility falls on us, the members, to cause real problems in the community. Alright, I can get on board with that, I think you've picked a fairly inappropriate avenue to advertise it though. Your B.net terrorist movement is going to burn out before it even gets of f the ground if you just recruit in the lion's den here.
He's not attacking anyone. He's simply saying that people are making threads just to complain and have something to talk about, which they are....

  • 01.08.2012 10:22 AM PDT

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You know this to be true.
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Posted by: Spartan091693
Where is this people complaining about titles you speak of?

Also,

Almost ALL forums have titles to show how long people have been a part.

It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.

I'm 15 and I approve this message.....not everybody is like this though....but most are.

  • 01.08.2012 10:24 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: LH Justin
He's not attacking anyone. He's simply saying that people are making threads just to complain and have something to talk about, which they are....

Really? I disagree. It looks to me like this is a proposition of the establishment of a sort of B.net Legion of Doom to give the site some real conflict and activity.

  • 01.08.2012 10:25 AM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: dahuterschuter
So basically what you are saying is that the responsibility falls on us, the members, to cause real problems in the community. Alright, I can get on board with that, I think you've picked a fairly inappropriate avenue to advertise it though. Your B.net terrorist movement is going to burn out before it even gets of f the ground if you just recruit in the lion's den here.
I have points things to after reading this.

1. Thank you for giving an example almost perfectly fitting what I described. You over evaluated everything I posted and followed up by attacking me.

2. The half of what you said made no sense. Our "responsibility to cause real problems"? I never said anything about responsibility nor implied anything along those lines. And how is this even partially symbolizing a "B.net terrorist movement"? That part got me. Lol

  • 01.08.2012 10:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: Spartan091693
Where is this people complaining about titles you speak of?

Also,

Almost ALL forums have titles to show how long people have been a part.

It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.

I'm 15 and I approve this message.....not everybody is like this though....but most are.
I don't think it's fair to segregate by age. Some of the people that whine about that stuff are grown men. Maturity and age are totally unrelated on the Internet.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:27 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 10:26 AM PDT

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Steam username: TopWargamer
To look up my Halo stats...search for the gamertag TopWargamer.
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One does not simply get rid of TopWargamer so easily.
You know this to be true.
ALL HAIL GABEN


Posted by: LH Justin

Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: Spartan091693
Where is this people complaining about titles you speak of?

Also,

Almost ALL forums have titles to show how long people have been a part.

It's only the butt-hurt 14 year olds that want to be 1337 MyTh1C M3mB3rs that complain.

I'm 15 and I approve this message.....not everybody is like this though....but most are.
I don't think it's fair to segregate by age. Some of the people that whine about that stuff are grown men. Maturity and age are totally unrelated on the Internet.

Didn't think about that, but that is true.....

  • 01.08.2012 10:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: LH Justin
He's not attacking anyone. He's simply saying that people are making threads just to complain and have something to talk about, which they are....

Really? I disagree. It looks to me like this is a proposition of the establishment of a sort of B.net Legion of Doom to give the site some real conflict and activity.
What are you talking about? He was simply pointing out something...

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:28 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 10:28 AM PDT

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I can't agree more. People are simply looking for something to talk about in regards to the site, in absence of a new IP to discuss. Bungie has done fantastic work on this website, to rid it of major flaws, and they should be commended for that, not complained to.

  • 01.08.2012 10:29 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: American Recoil
1. Thank you for giving an example almost perfectly fitting what I described. You over evaluated everything I posted and followed up by attacking me.

Ahhh, right, there was no sinister subtext to your OP. I gotcha *wink*.

2. The half of what you said made no sense. Our "responsibility to cause real problems"? I never said anything about responsibility nor implied anything along those lines. And how is this even partially symbolizing a "B.net terrorist movement"? That part got me. Lol
No, I understand. You're totally not recruiting for an Injustice League of B.net, my mistake. Doing something like that right under the noses of the man would be foolish right? Haha, of course. I'll just continue on then.

>.>
<.<

  • 01.08.2012 10:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: American Recoil
1. Thank you for giving an example almost perfectly fitting what I described. You over evaluated everything I posted and followed up by attacking me.

Ahhh, right, there was no sinister subtext to your OP. I gotcha *wink*.

2. The half of what you said made no sense. Our "responsibility to cause real problems"? I never said anything about responsibility nor implied anything along those lines. And how is this even partially symbolizing a "B.net terrorist movement"? That part got me. Lol
No, I understand. You're totally not recruiting for an Injustice League of B.net, my mistake. Doing something like that right under the noses of the man would be foolish right? Haha, of course. I'll just continue on then.

>.>
<.<
What? I don't...

Yes, he's planning a terrorist attack on Bungie.net.

  • 01.08.2012 10:45 AM PDT

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