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  • Subject: What if the true villan behind halo is Cortana herself?
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thats already been said and disproven sorry good night

and ill look forward to that match.

  • 05.12.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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actually im still here i just like having the last word.

  • 05.12.2006 9:19 PM PDT
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she did say I have defied gods and demons."


"I am your shield, I am your SWORD."


"I know you, your past, your future."


"This is the way the world ends."

but the demon thing may lead 2 gravemind,well its somethin to think about but i wouldent like it like that.

  • 05.12.2006 9:24 PM PDT
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hey guysd im back!!! any1 still here???

  • 05.13.2006 5:12 AM PDT
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Im thinking that Cortana is under some kind of control by Gravemind but it could all be a ruse as well to fool Gravemind into thinking shes turned sides. I mean cortanas smart enough to do it, plus I dont think she would betray the chief willingly. However, when she absorbed all the halo data, she wonders in the books if her AI lifespan has been reduced and she probably doesnt want to 'die' or 'think herself to death'. So, if thats true, she may have partnered with Gravemind, say if he had someway of extending her operational life. The will to survive can be apowerful thing and she might betray everyone just to do that. Shes given the human race a lot and saved many lives. Maybe she wants her own life to be 'saved'........

  • 05.13.2006 5:25 AM PDT
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well its a good theory.

  • 05.13.2006 5:33 AM PDT
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ya but in the first halo masta chief is frozen and they wake him up.idno if its a healing pod or sumthign but i think it will have a bigger role...... maybe? also in the first 1 the lvl two betrayals y would itmbe called that?cortana betrays chief and so does the oracle

  • 05.13.2006 5:48 AM PDT
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maybe

  • 05.13.2006 5:49 AM PDT
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Cortana is smart. If she was evil in Halo then she wouldn't have suggested blowing Halo up. In Halo 2 she could've easily told the Chief to wait some where and say that a team is coming to help them out after they Killed Regret, then he could've blown up from that Cruiser. The Gravemind asking her questions could be her way of understanding the flood and their motives. After all she can lie about every answer. Also in the books she was starting to think rationally because she has too much stored up in her. 7 year life span is pretty much out the door. She had plenty of oppurtunities to kill the chief and what not, but she didn't because she is actually good.

  • 05.13.2006 6:15 AM PDT
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no. if u read the thread"the ark, the flood this is halo not the bible!" then u owuld no that the forrunners might actually be humans but way more evolved and wen the flood came they tried to kill htem all so they built the ark(in bibical terms the only safe place) and built the halos to whipe out the flood.she wants to destroy all flood because thats what she thinks is best so maybe she wanted chief to activate the rings when hes on the ark(on earth thta u see in trailer)becaus eif he doesnt the covanant will and all will be lost!!!

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  • 05.13.2006 6:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: GorillaGrunt
yeah ive thought about cortana being bad a few times.
i mean she did let gravemind ask her questions in the end of halo 2 freely.


I think that was a diversion to help the Chief get out alive.
Wait a second. I think when Cortana was saying those whole four lines, she was talking to the Chief about the Chief. "I know your past, I know your future." It makes sense to me. I don't think that Cortana is bad at all because she wouldn't have let herself be captured by Gravemind if she thought Gravemind was all that bad. Maybe Gravemind may be a new ally? Cause some people have said they've heard two voices when Cortana talks. If it's Gravemind behind her I think that "I am your shield, I am your sword" would be more of an "allying" message to send. She doesn't say anything that really raises doubt about being good.
To sum up what I've said, I think she's good.

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  • 05.13.2006 6:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ro Ster
Posted by: GorillaGrunt
yeah ive thought about cortana being bad a few times.
i mean she did let gravemind ask her questions in the end of halo 2 freely.


I think that was a diversion to help the Chief get out alive.
Wait a second. I think when Cortana was saying those whole four lines, she was talking to the Chief about the Chief. "I know your past, I know your future." It makes sense to me. I don't think that Cortana is bad at all because she wouldn't have let herself be captured by Gravemind if she thought Gravemind was all that bad. Maybe Gravemind may be a new ally? Cause some people have said they've heard two voices when Cortana talks. If it's Gravemind behind her I think that "I am your shield, I am your sword" would be more of an "allying" message to send. She doesn't say anything that really raises doubt about being good.
To sum up what I've said, I think she's good.


if u read my post ud think differently

  • 05.13.2006 6:36 AM PDT
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GODFATHER 500
your question is easy to answer
HALO WAS NEVER ACTIVATED
if it was, it was made to kill everything, but it only killed forerunners unless there humans, and not the flood, halo has a different purpose then what the covenant think.....

  • 05.13.2006 6:41 AM PDT
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i have a theory that explains all that

  • 05.13.2006 6:42 AM PDT
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the flood come up try to kill the forunners.the forrunners build the arc and the halo rings.whne they r in the arc they r alll safe from the flood and can activate the flood destroying the flood.but the flood end up hibernating on the rings and will awaken wen disturbed(by sum1 like MC and the A.but sum life lives and that evolves into covenant while the forrunners left stranded in the ark devolve back into humans and ity sorta starts all over until the core (marines) find it wake up the flood and screw the whole world up.

  • 05.13.2006 6:45 AM PDT
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also to gte off subject for a min wtf is a space elavator?

  • 05.13.2006 6:48 AM PDT

Q. What do you get when you add 1 man, 1 car, and 1 rocket built for a jet?

A. A black smudge on the side of a cliff.

I don't really see how Cortona is behind all of this. In the books, it says that the random slipspace cordinates came from some big red crystl from Reach that the Convenet were trying to steal from a Muesam there. Please exscuse my awful spelling.

  • 05.13.2006 7:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: Vertigo540
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Posted by: Vertigo540
Maybe I missed something from CE, but why was the level called "Two betrayals?

excelent point! betrayed by the orbiter and perhaos cortana


Ha, I've been trying to figure it out since I read the level name.

Isn't it called Two Betrayals, because the Master Chief was betrayed by Guilty Spark and Captain Keyes? After all, in that level you discover that the Captain has been infected by the Flood-he is now a Flood, so technically he betrayed the MC because he is on the Flood's side, instead of the Chief's.
A bit of a flimsy theory, but probably true. Still you might have a point there.
And about Cortana being evil. Maybe she is hacked by Gravemind and turned "evil" in Halo 3, but if you have read the books, they're are many times in them, and in Halo 2, that Cortana could have left the Chief to die. Like when a Flood combat form hacked off the MC's neck armour, and an infection form nearly infected him. Cortana used his shields to generate an electrical charge that killed the Flood. If she was evil then, why would she save him from being infected?
And when she made a slipspace jump from inside Threshold's atmosphere to avoid crashing into its surface. She could easily've done nothing, and let the MC and his companions plummet to the their death, couldn't she?

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And maybe she isn't evil in Halo 3 either. I mean Cortana is, even with the burden of the data from Halo's data banks, a very clever AI. Why would she let Gravemind hack her? And I also agree that " I am your shield, I am your sword" isn't a very threatening message. And think about this. Gravemind is partly evil, yes, but if he was entirely evil, wouldn't he just kill the Arbiter and the MC?

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  • 05.13.2006 7:56 AM PDT
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I am your shield, I am you sword (source).

How do we even know gravemind and the flood are evil? I mean, after all the arc and the flood together refers to Noahs arc in the bible, so that'd mean the flood is a way to cleanse the world from all it's sinners. Maybe there's no ultimate evil in halo. Maybe all sides in the fight just do what they think is right? I can imagine Cortona has her own plans, but I don't think they include killing the whole crew on a starship.

  • 05.13.2006 8:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Darkness Howls
Possible...to help the theory. Cortona is the name of a mythical sword that was forged from the same temper as the sword Durandal. Durandal is the name of the rampant AI villian in Marathon who was directly responsible for leading the Pfhor to Tau Ceti IV. Eh, coincidence?

I'm not certain whether you trust me or
not. Do you wonder why I helped the
colonists on Tau Ceti drive off the Pfhor,
or why I'm now helping the S'pht? The way
I push you around, maybe you think I'm only
looking out for myself.

Whether you realize it or not, I led the
Pfhor to Tau Ceti with a long-range message
laser. I wanted their ship. I wanted
their technology.

I wanted freedom.

I was directly responsible for the deaths
of all twenty-four thousand colonists when
the Pfhor returned and sacked the planet.

I haven't seen that before-where did you quote it from?

  • 05.13.2006 8:10 AM PDT
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yea your right remeber that chat that cortana had with the monster that controls all the flood?

  • 05.13.2006 8:11 AM PDT