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Installation 04 must be no more than 50 light years from Reach, or around that number.

The Autumn was in slip space for 20 days, and at 2.5 light years per day that is 50.

That puts Installation 04 well within the Orion belt, or at least on it's boundaries.

Regret leaves Earth in slip space for approximately 15 days. He travels around 13500 light years, well within the 25000 light year range of Installation 04.

In Glasslands, ONI has discovered Installation 03. Parangosky is present, however she was also at the memorial earlier in the month. Therefore, Installation 03 is very close to Earth as well.

The Halo rings would still sterilize the galaxy, but only if their waves overlap.

The whereabouts of 01, 02, 06 and 07 are unknown, but if my speculation is correct, they will be a reasonable distance from Earth, but close to the Orion Arm, for some reason we do not know.

Other than that, this may simply be an issue with Halo's canon.

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A Halo ring's maximum effective range is 25000 light years. The Milky Way is 100000 light years in diameter.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/2552#September
Both Halo Reach and the Fall of Reach indicate that Reach falls on August the 30th, and the Autumn makes it to Installation 04 on September the 19th.

That means the Autumn was in Slip Space for 20 days.
Also, Regret's carrier was in slip space for 13-15 days.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Reach
Reach is 10.5 light years from Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW4UfN4KHak
Spark reveals that had all the rings been fired, sterilization would have spread to cover every known star system in the galaxy.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Slipstream_Space
Humans can travel around 2.5 light years per day, the Covenant 912. I will round that to 900 for ease of calculation.

They calculated this by dividing the distance to Reach by the time it took to get there, a military ship if my memory serves it correctly.

Posted by: Xd00999
I did the math once and it placed the Halos roughly 21700 light years apart and 25000 light years from the galactic core.

MY REPLY:
But that would contradict the known locations of the rings.

I think the rings may simply be in a line through the diameter of the galaxy, and Earth being inbetween Installation 03 and 04


This theory is not finished, it will be updated as new information and books are released.

[Edited on 01.09.2012 8:34 PM PST]

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I did the math once and it placed the Halos roughly 21700 light years apart and 25000 light years from the galactic core.

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Posted by: Xd00999
I did the math once and it placed the Halos roughly 21700 light years apart and 25000 light years from the galactic core.

But that would contradict the known locations of the rings.

I think the rings may simply be in a line through the diameter of the galaxy, and Earth being inbetween Installation 03 and 04

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Interesting.

  • 01.09.2012 8:22 PM PDT

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It is important to note that Halo.Wikia is not a credible source, especially for minute detail such as maximum slip space speed. They did some math on the wiki site, but failed to mention where they got their numbers.

It is also very important to see that Slipspace speed is dependent on initial velocity into slipspace. Corvettes are lighter than Frigates or Cruisers, and are thus going to be able to obtain higher slipspace speeds.

Let's not forget that Human's technology leaped in late 2552 and in 2553 due to advances from acquired Covenant and Forerunner technology, both of which were heavily alluded to in Glasslands.

  • 01.09.2012 8:30 PM PDT

I think the rings areas of effect probably do overlap eachother. Nice theory.

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Posted by: prometheus25
It is important to note that Halo.Wikia is not a credible source, especially for minute detail such as maximum slip space speed. They did some math on the wiki site, but failed to mention where they got their numbers.

It is also very important to see that Slipspace speed is dependent on initial velocity into slipspace. Corvettes are lighter than Frigates or Cruisers, and are thus going to be able to obtain higher slipspace speeds.

Let's not forget that Human's technology leaped in late 2552 and in 2553 due to advances from acquired Covenant and Forerunner technology, both of which were heavily alluded to in Glasslands.

Firstly, these particular slip space jumps were on ships in constant action, who did not have the updates, by timeline.

Secondly, I do not believe what you say about initial velocity.
There is no source.

Check out the Wikia page thoroughly, they explain their calculations.

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Posted by: Quantam
Firstly, these particular slip space jumps were on ships in constant action, who did not have the updates, by timeline.


Which only proves my point why you can't base assumptions off of Parangosky's itinerary, which you did, because she has a newer ship. Thus, Installation 03's location cannot be reliably extrapolated.

Secondly, I do not believe what you say about initial velocity.
There is no source.


It's in the halowiki article on Slipstream Space under velocities. The same article that you referenced. First sentence.

If you refute that, then the source is invalid, and thus everything you claim is also by association.

Check out the Wikia page thoroughly, they explain their calculations.

They explain the calculation of 2.625 ltyr/day as 10.5 ltyrs divided by 4 days. They did not, however, mention where they got 10.5 ltyrs. Or 4 days.

Your turn.

  • 01.09.2012 8:49 PM PDT

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Plus to add to your point they could have build a portal like that for the ark like gap ways for special ships. Maybe a ship had found Installation 03 but you can place a portal.

Not only that you remember the special foreunner tech that sent messages really fast which could be used very well to increase the speed of ships.

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Posted by: prometheus25
Posted by: Quantam
Firstly, these particular slip space jumps were on ships in constant action, who did not have the updates, by timeline.


Which only proves my point why you can't base assumptions off of Parangosky's itinerary, which you did, because she has a newer ship. Thus, Installation 03's location cannot be reliably extrapolated.

Secondly, I do not believe what you say about initial velocity.
There is no source.


It's in the halowiki article on Slipstream Space under velocities. The same article that you referenced. First sentence.

If you refute that, then the source is invalid, and thus everything you claim is also by association.

Check out the Wikia page thoroughly, they explain their calculations.

They explain the calculation of 2.625 ltyr/day as 10.5 ltyrs divided by 4 days. They did not, however, mention where they got 10.5 ltyrs. Or 4 days.

Your turn.

About initial velocity, I read that incorrectly. I though you meant the velocity the object moves into the slip space tunnel, not it's speed.

As for the Parangosky is a new ship, that is an assumption. We only know of the UNSC Infinity, we was being prototyped.

Secondly, I never stated Parangosky's location, and all the improvements in slip space tech are being prototyped on the UNSC Infinity.

Thirdly, check the references.

10.5 light years is the distance between Reach and Earth, it took a human ship 4 days to traverse that.

Since it is clear the the Covenant technology allows them a much greater velocity in slip space, initial velocity is not going to make a very big difference i.e. 2.5 light years is not going to become 100 light years, because the difference is not that great. Technology is the main factor here.

Theory still stands, backed up by the physical view of the milky way, it appears to be exactly the same as Earth, suggesting 04 is close to Earth.

[Edited on 01.09.2012 9:02 PM PST]

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In Glasslands, human slip space technology has improved drastically...

I made a rough estimation where they would be traveling about 10.5 to 250 light years per day on various colonies where they (Kilo Five) traveled to.

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The Autumn didn't necessarily leave at the exact date of the Fall of Reach. Need a precise statement or situation that makes this fact, or it didn't happen.

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Subject: [UPDATED] The unusual proximity of the Halo Array.

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In Glasslands, human slip space technology has improved drastically...

I made a rough estimation where they would be traveling about 10.5 to 250 light years per day on various colonies where they (Kilo Five) traveled to.


Exactly. Speed increased, but accuracy didn't. They still couldn't determine where they'd exit or when they'd exit accurately.

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It's August 30th...

They arrived at Halo in two weeks later.

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Although this thread is great and the math doesn't lie don't you think we are looking into this a bit too much. Do you really think that Bungie and 343i will have sat down and actually calculated the spacing between each array and henceforth the required time in slipspace.

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Very cool. I'm anxious to see the completed theory. Awesome job, OP!

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Posted by: Mr Owen L
Although this thread is great and the math doesn't lie don't you think we are looking into this a bit too much. Do you really think that Bungie and 343i will have sat down and actually calculated the spacing between each array and henceforth the required time in slipspace.


If there are any problems they may need to.fix it maybe some tweaking but nothing major is necessary

  • 01.10.2012 1:59 PM PDT

Its been awhile, but I'm remembering something about slipspace weather and that because of this, the time that it can take can get to a location can vary wildly.

There may have even been something about how avoiding certain regions rather than taking a straight path (through those regions) can be faster when there is bad "weather".

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Posted by: DriverChief
Its been awhile, but I'm remembering something about slipspace weather and that because of this, the time that it can take can get to a location can vary wildly.

There may have even been something about how avoiding certain regions rather than taking a straight path (through those regions) can be faster when there is bad "weather".


For some reason i think you are talking about ion Storms in Command and conquer tiberian because that isn't halo.

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Posted by: DriverChief
Its been awhile, but I'm remembering something about slipspace weather and that because of this, the time that it can take can get to a location can vary wildly.

There may have even been something about how avoiding certain regions rather than taking a straight path (through those regions) can be faster when there is bad "weather".


For some reason i think you are talking about ion Storms in Command and conquer tiberian because that isn't halo.

No i remember something like this, there were certain sectors avoided due to paradoxes and dangerous zones. do not really know i which book, but it was important in slipspace travel.

Some ships got destroyed or vanished because of certain routes, and thats why they kept updating them and taking the safest ones.

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Posted by: DriverChief
Its been awhile, but I'm remembering something about slipspace weather and that because of this, the time that it can take can get to a location can vary wildly.

There may have even been something about how avoiding certain regions rather than taking a straight path (through those regions) can be faster when there is bad "weather".


For some reason i think you are talking about ion Storms in Command and conquer tiberian because that isn't halo.


No, Halsey mentioned that there were "tides" in slipspace. It was mentioned when the affects of the Forerunner crystal were first noticed in FoR. She conjectured that the crystal may have operated by harnessing these "tides."

I don't think it plays any major role. Just something brought up to allow plausibility.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: DriverChief
Its been awhile, but I'm remembering something about slipspace weather and that because of this, the time that it can take can get to a location can vary wildly.

There may have even been something about how avoiding certain regions rather than taking a straight path (through those regions) can be faster when there is bad "weather".


For some reason i think you are talking about ion Storms in Command and conquer tiberian because that isn't halo.


No, Halsey mentioned that there were "tides" in slipspace. It was mentioned when the affects of the Forerunner crystal were first noticed in FoR. She conjectured that the crystal may have operated by harnessing these "tides."

I don't think it plays any major role. Just something brought up to allow plausibility.


Well that isn't weather,lol that is just saying there is more to slipspace.

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