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Subject: New Theory on MC's New Armor Parts... *UPDATED*
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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Well, I noticed how everyone was talking about how is gloves are different, its not just his gloves, his Helmet is a bit different, not too much, but it is alot more detailed which could just be the graphics... but none the less, looks a bit different to me, his armor on his upper part of his legs is designed different and so is the part of armor covering his biceps... The rest is pretty much the same I believe... anyways, on with my theory... after reading the "Clones and Lies Theory" thread (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=6862115) I thought about it, and Bungie did say that this cut scene is from about 1/3 into the game... SO, IF they have finally decided to incorperate some of the books into the game, Maybe Dr. Helsey did go with Kelly to where the "hidden spartans" are... and then got a hold of MC and meets up with him, giving him the lastest upgrades in the Mjolnir Armor... If you dont get where Im coming from read the thread "Clones and Lies..." I gave the link above, after you read that, I think you might have an Idea of where Im comming from...

Cause if youve noticed, both Halo and Halo 2 start you off in a kind of training mode to test the armor... maybe Dr. Helsey will be checking out how the new armor works this time around... cause I dont think Bungie would make people play the game without a quick tutorial like in the other Halo games...

*UPDATED SECTION*

I've recently just re-read "First Strike" and in it, Fred, gets an armor upgrade, to his gauntlet, which in turn enhances his motion tracker, maybe thats what bungie did with his gauntlets... Maybe we'll just have a better motion tracker this time around...

*ANOTHER FIND*

I dont know how this really effect anything, but I just noticed today that his knee pads arent all scratched up like they are in Halo 2, they look new sides the fact that they are covered in mud... but yeah, just thought I would point that out...

[Edited on 5/23/2006]

  • 05.12.2006 7:47 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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Well, its not an idea, its a theory...
Ill post it there though, just so maybe more people can read it...

[Edited on 5/12/2006]

  • 05.12.2006 7:50 PM PDT

July 15, 2008... The day the timer stood still.

It could also just be a graphic upgrade...

  • 05.12.2006 7:52 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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still though... they changed both his gauntlets and his legs alot for it just to be a graphical upgrade... if it was, Im sure bungie would have said thats the reason his gloves and such changed, instead, they said "you'll find out..."

  • 05.12.2006 7:54 PM PDT

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Ohhh my God!
Do you REALLY expect the armor to be exactly the same from H2 considering the abundant processing power the 360 has? So if I model a fully detailed NURBS model of the suit, and all details in geometry instead of normals, would it look cool? Or strange??

You want the same low poly model using the same low resolution crap texture from the second game??
I don't see anyone complaining that the cars in PGR3 are too shiny.. But someone decides to add a few more details to make the suit look even better and all hell breaks loose up in here.

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  • 05.12.2006 7:58 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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Hell isnt breaking loose, stop over reacting kid, its just a simple theory, at least Im not all "OMFG!!!! NEW ARMOR!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!" chill the -blam- out...

and if you didnt read the update... Bungie said that we'll find out why his gloves are like that, if it was just a graphical upgrade they would have said so...

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  • 05.12.2006 8:01 PM PDT

Jesus loves you, even if you don't believe it.

Oops my bad.. Yeah, that could happen. They'll just get the people working on Pimps at Sea to come up with a reason ^_^

  • 05.12.2006 8:12 PM PDT
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ummm... okay

  • 05.12.2006 8:19 PM PDT

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  • 05.12.2006 8:20 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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Posted by: Abs_of_flab
This is really confusing.(not just this post)


Everyone has the same avatar


haha, yeah, I see what you mean! >.<

  • 05.12.2006 8:23 PM PDT
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bungie has said before that hasley,kelly,the spartans,or any other characters of the book are not going to appear as a major character in the games.

(this was way back before halo 2)

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Posted by: TheMayaMC
Ohhh my God!
Do you REALLY expect the armor to be exactly the same from H2 considering the abundant processing power the 360 has? So if I model a fully detailed NURBS model of the suit, and all details in geometry instead of normals, would it look cool? Or strange??

You want the same low poly model using the same low resolution crap texture from the second game??
I don't see anyone complaining that the cars in PGR3 are too shiny.. But someone decides to add a few more details to make the suit look even better and all hell breaks loose up in here.


Posted by: TheMayaMC
Oops my bad.. Yeah, that could happen. They'll just get the people working on Pimps at Sea to come up with a reason ^_^


Can you say... bipolar?

  • 05.12.2006 8:26 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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hahahaha ^.^

  • 05.12.2006 8:31 PM PDT
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Crazy fool... Why do you always have to jump?! One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you are! ...And I don't do bits and pieces...

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Well, I do... haha, I loved them, I read First Strike 3 times already... boredom...

  • 05.12.2006 8:40 PM PDT
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I actually think this is a really good theory, totally possible if they do bring the books into the games... thats a big IF though...

  • 05.12.2006 9:13 PM PDT
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Thanks :) at least someone agrees...

  • 05.12.2006 9:17 PM PDT
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It is probably simple field replacements. Not every piece of armor is gonna look the same. Remember First Strike, where Fred got the glove with the enhanced motion tracker? Maybe it's like that.

  • 05.12.2006 9:20 PM PDT

Dude... did you know that your reading my sig?

How is his gloves different? They still look the same. If someon has prove that would be nice.

  • 05.12.2006 9:21 PM PDT
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That's what I thought, Major Harris. I remembered that exact part in the book and thought, "What if the Chief also got armour upgrades?"

  • 05.12.2006 9:21 PM PDT
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Yeah, probably... It could be Dr. Helsey that could have sent him the armor in Halo 2... ONI personel are the only people that make it, she could be involved somehow... I hope... I really think they should make the games as deep as the books... but I dont have a whole lot of hope that they will...

  • 05.12.2006 9:24 PM PDT

Bungie never said that this trailer was a cutscene from the game. Because its not. It was simply made before E3 FOR E3.... Its a simple teaser trailer to announce Halo 3. Its not in the game. Why would cortana's face show up in front of the chief in a cutscene?

  • 05.12.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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You never know, it could be like A Tale of Two Cities, where everything is speculation until that one chapter, the defining moment.

EDIT: What about the teaser of Halo 2? That was for the most part in the game.

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also going on the book if you still have it go to page 248 in the first one (the fall of reach) starting in about the second paragraph from the bottom it talkes about his current armor and he said it is that color. So possiable his ner armor might have goten alot of damage, being upgraded, or a sparten that didnt get the upgrades like possiably the spartan 3 project (or which ever spartan project was after johns) because if i remember right we never realy hear about what happened with the 3rd sparten project.

  • 05.12.2006 9:27 PM PDT