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Subject: New Theory on MC's New Armor
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.... Ok, I didn't think about that. But you're right, it could be high.

  • 05.13.2006 9:30 AM PDT

that which is not dead can eternal lie, but with strange aeons even death may die.

personaly I think that master chiefs new armor is not the mark 7...just sligtly upgraded.

  • 05.13.2006 9:36 AM PDT
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Personally, I totally feel (considering the battered and general old-ness of the new armor) that the armor is acctually armor created by the forerunners.

References, you ask?

"Your current armor is only a level 2. I recommend upgrading to at least a level 16-class" - Paraphrased from Guilty Spark 343, and a clue that the forerunners may have had their own super soldiers.

I bet it's forerunner armor that chief finds on earth / out in space.

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Posted by: Drakanious
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It is probably simple field replacements. Not every piece of armor is gonna look the same. Remember First Strike, where Fred got the glove with the enhanced motion tracker? Maybe it's like that.


My initial reaction was that Bungie was going to update the motion tracker system.... one must admit that it's rather limited.

They made it smaller for balance reasons...and I'm glad for that. In Halo CE, the tracker had a HUGE distance so camping was easily accomplished.

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Posted by: I Call Rockets
Personally, I totally feel (considering the battered and general old-ness of the new armor) that the armor is acctually armor created by the forerunners.

References, you ask?

"Your current armor is only a level 2. I recommend upgrading to at least a level 16-class" - Paraphrased from Guilty Spark 343, and a clue that the forerunners may have had their own super soldiers.

I bet it's forerunner armor that chief finds on earth / out in space.

I believe he was told to upgrade to a size 12.

Okay, so you think that some armor that's 6 times as good as the Mk V Battle armor looks exactly like the MkVI with a new pair of gloves, and a little extra piece on his helmet? Yeah right.

And, to everyone who says it's Kelly..look at it. It's not her. All the Spartans had custom armor fitted to their body perfectly, so her shoulders would NOT be wider than the Chief's and she would have a more slender female figure. Also, she's not as tall as the Chief..Chief is a little taller than all of them except for Sam I believe (but he's dead)

Oh, his gloves arent for a Jackal shiedl. Those things go on your forearms, not hands. They slide on and the thing you put your hand in adjusts to the size of forearms (it's explained in the books when the Spartans use Jackal shields.)


Just get over it guys, they didn't use the exact same model. They got it exactly the same and realized 'hey, this looks a little slim dont you think? oh I'd prefer the gloves with 3 holes in them rather than 4.' Then you all start speculating totally absurd -blam!-. It's the Chief, same as he was before. Halo 2 may have lasted a week with the time bending crystal. They won't make new armor (or upgraded parts) in a week, especially while being under attack!

  • 05.13.2006 12:18 PM PDT
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The helmet is slightly different. There's a new black thing right above the rectangle at the bottom of the helmet.

  • 05.13.2006 12:21 PM PDT

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And you really think you mean a tiny rectangle means something? They upgraded the model a bit, and it has nothing to do with the story.

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i was just wondering you can change the color of his aromor i mean green comon like grey or something would be so much cooler

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wait, what if they dont start with the MC at the beginning of the game. The Arbiter had the same controls, perhaps you test them out on him when he (most likely) heads back to earth to help the MC in saving the universe.

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im not disagreeing with you on it being MC, cause it is, but in the books they said you couldny tell the spartins from eachother verywell unless they had their helmets off or unless you knew their characteristics i believe. dont forget that consideration for later.

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Posted by: Munsta
im not disagreeing with you on it being MC, cause it is, but in the books they said you couldny tell the spartins from eachother verywell unless they had their helmets off or unless you knew their characteristics i believe. dont forget that consideration for later.

There were ways to tell, like if it were a female you could tell. Or if someone were taller than the rest you could (Sam)

You'd be able to see the larger breasts of a female spartan, and the narrower waiste and wider hips than males have..They need to be able to move the best they can, they're not all going to have standard armor cause it will affect their movements, making them less fluent.

  • 05.13.2006 1:25 PM PDT

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Well if these new gloves are more than just graphical updates it implies that before the trailer happens the MC has met up with or at least gone to some sort of military installation and had a few upgrades. Like the upgraded assault rifle (with longer barrel) for instance.

I dunno...

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yes, but they were supposed to be bulked up by the hard training that they had to withstand n thats why i brought up the fact that they were quite similar.plus with the gaining of pectoral muscles in females does reusult in the loss of their breast fat allowing them to become placed behind a broader armor.

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Well if these new gloves are more than just graphical updates it implies that before the trailer happens the MC has met up with or at least gone to some sort of military installation and had a few upgrades. Like the upgraded assault rifle (with longer barrel) for instance.

I dunno...


well, he doesnt really need to stop by a military instillation to gain new tech. wht could have happened wa that he came across a downed pelican or carrier that happened to have the new tech inside.

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Posted by: Munsta
yes, but they were supposed to be bulked up by the hard training that they had to withstand n thats why i brought up the fact that they were quite similar.plus with the gaining of pectoral muscles in females does reusult in the loss of their breast fat allowing them to become placed behind a broader armor.

Still, even John stated that he could tell who everyone was by the way they looked/moved. So they all have a distinct look..the femals would definately still have their shape [or it would just be creepy], even with all the training. MC isn't that bulky..he looks like a modern athlete, only a little bigger, so I doubt that the femals would get a figure more like a man's.

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I THINK A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN SMOKING TO MUCH CRACK TOGETHER. THE ONLY DIFF IS THAT ITS DIRTYER AT THE LEGS AND DENTED AT THE CHEST AND POSSIBLY OTHER PLACES. THATS MY STORY AND I'M STICKIN TO IT.

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Still, even John stated that he could tell who everyone was by the way they looked/moved. So they all have a distinct look..the femals would definately still have their shape [or it would just be creepy], even with all the training. MC isn't that bulky..he looks like a modern athlete, only a little bigger, so I doubt that the femals would get a figure more like a man's.


sure, but on a different subject, what of the arbiter? what do you believe became of our secondary hero? i think he might actually be the figure in which the tutorial goes through. i also believe that due to him, n sgt. Johnson of course, that there will be a unity between humans, elites, hunters, n grunts. do you think that because of this unity, the MC n the Arbiter will have now a vast army to use against the last prophet?

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I THINK A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN SMOKING TO MUCH CRACK TOGETHER. THE ONLY DIFF IS THAT ITS DIRTYER AT THE LEGS AND DENTED AT THE CHEST AND POSSIBLY OTHER PLACES. THATS MY STORY AND I'M STICKIN TO IT.


ok. but theyre are diffs in the hands n armor. go ahead n watch the vid, then go to the H2 part of the site n look at the screen shots. there ya go. right there is your proof.

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Still, even John stated that he could tell who everyone was by the way they looked/moved. So they all have a distinct look..the femals would definately still have their shape [or it would just be creepy], even with all the training. MC isn't that bulky..he looks like a modern athlete, only a little bigger, so I doubt that the femals would get a figure more like a man's.


sure, but on a different subject, what of the arbiter? what do you believe became of our secondary hero? i think he might actually be the figure in which the tutorial goes through. i also believe that due to him, n sgt. Johnson of course, that there will be a unity between humans, elites, hunters, n grunts. do you think that because of this unity, the MC n the Arbiter will have now a vast army to use against the last prophet?

I don't think Bungie would start us off as playing as the Arbiter..after all, most people who played Halo 2's campaign disliked the Arbiter levels, so they'd start us off as the Chief (or another Spartan..maybe Kelly waking up, and Dr. Halsey runs her through the tutorial since they're nowhere near Earth/Other friendlies.

If they start us off aas the Chief, I'm sure they would find a way to start the first level on a ship..a human ship at that. The Forerunner ship could have some Brutes and Jackals on it, so we would have to kill those. Forerunners=Humans, so it's a human ship - technically, like in the first 2 games. Lol.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Still, even John stated that he could tell who everyone was by the way they looked/moved. So they all have a distinct look..the femals would definately still have their shape [or it would just be creepy], even with all the training. MC isn't that bulky..he looks like a modern athlete, only a little bigger, so I doubt that the femals would get a figure more like a man's.


If you've ever played DOA4 for the 360, you can unlock a Spartan to fight as, HER name is Nicole (she kicks ass btw) and she looks just like the MC, her figure is no different what so ever, the only way to tell its a girl is because her voice...

  • 05.14.2006 2:04 AM PDT

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1. She's not a real Spartan from the story line
2. Read the books, it's explained there. The females have a slimmer figure and their chest plate is slightly larger, so they can breathe easier.

Everything is built around their exact specifications so they can fight to the best of their abilities. Chief isn't as built as Sam was, that showed. The females naturally have a different figure than males, so there should be a difference in their custom suits.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
1. She's not a real Spartan from the story line
2. Read the books, it's explained there. The females have a slimmer figure and their chest plate is slightly larger, so they can breathe easier.

Everything is built around their exact specifications so they can fight to the best of their abilities. Chief isn't as built as Sam was, that showed. The females naturally have a different figure than males, so there should be a difference in their custom suits.


That is true she isnt from the storyline as we know, but if they wanted the female spartan to look more distinct, they would have, Bungie payed VERY close attention on Tecmo's design for the spartan, and whatever Bungie says goes, either that or they didnt want Nicole to have the oversized breasts like all the other DOA girls, haha, then that would have made her chest plate slimmer and more male-ish... but yeah, I see your point, BUT DOA4 is one of the most popular 360 games, maybe Bungie wanted to put Nicole in there so that the Halo fans would be fimilar with her if they do put her in the storyline, cause it is alot more likely people play games more then they read books... so I bet almost everyone on this forum knows who Nicole is, alot more then there are people that have read the books and know Fred, Linda, Kelly, and Will....

  • 05.14.2006 9:23 PM PDT

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  • 05.14.2006 10:05 PM PDT