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Posted by: TheMayaMC
I'm actually glad that the folks at Bungie don't read all this nonesense.. Otherwise, someone might snap and scream:
"Holly crapp!! Someone end this nightmare.. Please, lets get the original model from H2 so people will SHUT UP about all the improvements we thought they would like in the game!!"


Dude, you seriously need to read.. in the update, a question was asked.. here is the exact Q and A...

Barbaric Rage asks,

This has already been asked, but what's up with the dope new hand-armor for Chief?

You'll find out in due course. Maybe.



In other words, ITS NOT THE GRAPHICS, otherwise they would have just said so, but Frankie isnt aloud to tell cause it will ruin part of the story, or one of the new special features of the upgraded gauntlets... if it was just graphics, they would have said so when they were bragging about the new upgraded graphics, the only thing they said about the new graphics and the MC's armor is that they can now have real-time reflections.

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Posted by: The Numb One
Posted by: TheMayaMC
I'm actually glad that the folks at Bungie don't read all this nonesense.. Otherwise, someone might snap and scream:
"Holly crapp!! Someone end this nightmare.. Please, lets get the original model from H2 so people will SHUT UP about all the improvements we thought they would like in the game!!"


Dude, you seriously need to read.. in the update, a question was asked.. here is the exact Q and A...

Barbaric Rage asks,

This has already been asked, but what's up with the dope new hand-armor for Chief?

You'll find out in due course. Maybe.



In other words, ITS NOT THE GRAPHICS, otherwise they would have just said so, but Frankie isnt aloud to tell cause it will ruin part of the story, or one of the new special features of the upgraded gauntlets... if it was just graphics, they would have said so when they were bragging about the new upgraded graphics, the only thing they said about the new graphics and the MC's armor is that they can now have real-time reflections.

Or, he didn't say anything cause they're not aloud to tell us anything, no matter how blatently obvious it is.

When he says "in due course", he means when Halo 3 comes out, or when Bungie decides to tell us before then.

When he says "Maybe", he means not everyone will know cause not everyone will have a 360/or someone might die. lol.


Seriously, just cause there are 2 extra things on his armor everyone thinks he got an upgrade. It's a little something called PIXELS, the more of them we have the more things we not normally see are shown. End of story.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Or, he didn't say anything cause they're not aloud to tell us anything, no matter how blatently obvious it is.

When he says "in due course", he means when Halo 3 comes out, or when Bungie decides to tell us before then.

When he says "Maybe", he means not everyone will know cause not everyone will have a 360/or someone might die. lol.


Seriously, just cause there are 2 extra things on his armor everyone thinks he got an upgrade. It's a little something called PIXELS, the more of them we have the more things we not normally see are shown. End of story.


Well, if you put it that way, then they must not have been allowed to tell us that the trailer was using the in game graphics engine, they werent aloud to tell us that the MC's visor has real time reflections, and they wouldnt have been able to tell us that the weather effects used in the trailer will also be used in the game... All that sounds alot more important then upgraded armor graphics doesnt it? IF IT WAS JUST NEW GRAPHICS THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SO...

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yOU KNOW WHAT...MC´s armor will porobably won´t be an uprgaded armor, it is just a weary armor that has been through a lot. Oh! one more thing "For H3 you shoul be able to use the Jackals´ shields"

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Posted by: Mexican Rascal
yOU KNOW WHAT...MC´s armor will porobably won´t be an uprgaded armor, it is just a weary armor that has been through a lot. Oh! one more thing "For H3 you shoul be able to use the Jackals´ shields"


Yeah, I dont think it will be fully upgraded, I think that at least his gloves will though, cause they changed dramatically, I think it would be pretty sweet to have some sort of shield to use too... besides the over shield...

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Posted by: The Numb One
Well, if you put it that way, then they must not have been allowed to tell us that the trailer was using the in game graphics engine, they werent aloud to tell us that the MC's visor has real time reflections, and they wouldnt have been able to tell us that the weather effects used in the trailer will also be used in the game...

They can tell us certain things, and if they say that they're using more pixels and a more complex character model, why don't you put 1 and 2 together? It's common sense, were you born with it?
All that sounds alot more important then upgraded armor graphics doesnt it? IF IT WAS JUST NEW GRAPHICS THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SO...
Says who?

1. The armor looking better is expected to be known by us to be a graphics upgrade.

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Hahahaha... I cant wait for you to be proved wrong... only time will tell... :)

They dont have to change the armor for the graphics to be upgraded, look at the rest of his armor its all the same practically, they changed his gloves for a reason buddy...

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u guys do know mc was only gone like a week or maybe a month, right? to have a new suit that fast is REALLY hard to believe

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No one said the whole suit was new, pretty much just his gloves changed dramatically, and there are some small changes to his bicep and upper leg plates...

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Posted by: The Numb One
Well, I noticed how everyone was talking about how is gloves are different, its not just his gloves, his Helmet is a bit different, not too much, but it is alot more detailed which could just be the graphics... but none the less, looks a bit different to me, his armor on his upper part of his legs is designed different and so is the part of armor covering his biceps... The rest is pretty much the same I believe... anyways, on with my theory... after reading the "Clones and Lies Theory" thread (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=6862115) I thought about it, and Bungie did say that this cut scene is from about 1/3 into the game... SO, IF they have finally decided to incorperate some of the books into the game, Maybe Dr. Helsey did go with Kelly to where the "hidden spartans" are... and then got a hold of MC and meets up with him, giving him the lastest upgrades in the Mjolnir Armor... If you dont get where Im coming from read the thread "Clones and Lies..." I gave the link above, after you read that, I think you might have an Idea of where Im comming from...

Cause if youve noticed, both Halo and Halo 2 start you off in a kind of training mode to test the armor... maybe Dr. Helsey will be checking out how the new armor works this time around... cause I dont think Bungie would make people play the game without a quick tutorial like in the other Halo games...


So, Fred (spartan-104) could fight with the MC against the Enemies... nice... hahahhahaaaa!!!
I want to see some nice knife handling hahahahaaaa...

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Posted by: The Numb One
No one said the whole suit was new, pretty much just his gloves changed dramatically, and there are some small changes to his bicep and upper leg plates...


good point.

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taken from gamespot:

Proof this is a cut scene 1/3 into the game


Shortly after Microsoft's presentation, we had an opportunity to get a close-up look at Halo 3 with Bungie representatives. We spoke with Brian Gerrard, one of Bungie's community managers, as well as CJ Cowan, the studio's cinematics director. Cowan stated that the trailer was a good example of where Halo 3 is going, in terms of fiction. By that, he means that the story is epic in scale, but dark as well, and Bungie is going for a distinct mood, since Halo 3 will represent the end of the trilogy.

The Bungie representatives made it clear to us that the trailer was running in real-time on the Xbox 360. The trailer is set in the African desert, and it was taken from roughly a third of the way through the game. Cowan noted that the constant battling has taken its toll on Master Chief, and you can see that by the many scratches and gouges in his armor. The flashes of Cortana seen in the trailer fill you in on the state of her mind, and the Forerunner structure seen in the distance at the end of the trailer represents a pivotal point in the story.


there u go bro you got your proof ;o

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Posted by: mintek917
taken from gamespot:

Proof this is a cut scene 1/3 into the game


Shortly after Microsoft's presentation, we had an opportunity to get a close-up look at Halo 3 with Bungie representatives. We spoke with Brian Gerrard, one of Bungie's community managers, as well as CJ Cowan, the studio's cinematics director. Cowan stated that the trailer was a good example of where Halo 3 is going, in terms of fiction. By that, he means that the story is epic in scale, but dark as well, and Bungie is going for a distinct mood, since Halo 3 will represent the end of the trilogy.

The Bungie representatives made it clear to us that the trailer was running in real-time on the Xbox 360. The trailer is set in the African desert, and it was taken from roughly a third of the way through the game. Cowan noted that the constant battling has taken its toll on Master Chief, and you can see that by the many scratches and gouges in his armor. The flashes of Cortana seen in the trailer fill you in on the state of her mind, and the Forerunner structure seen in the distance at the end of the trailer represents a pivotal point in the story.


there u got bro you got your proof ;o


THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I was so pissed that I couldnt find where I read that before, hahahaha, you're awesome man!

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Posted by: The Numb One
Hahahaha... I cant wait for you to be proved wrong... only time will tell... :)

They dont have to change the armor for the graphics to be upgraded, look at the rest of his armor its all the same practically, they changed his gloves for a reason buddy...

No dude..no. WHat next? Is the relection in his helmet a communication light? Are the people flying the Banshee Spartans? Or maybe Forerunners who crawled out of the Ark?

You make no sense kid..so they got rid of or added another hole in his glove gauntlet...that's all. Do you really think this means upgraded Gloves? That's pretty sad seeing as it's cleary a graphics upgrade.

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Posted by: mintek917
taken from gamespot:

Proof this is a cut scene 1/3 into the game


Shortly after Microsoft's presentation, we had an opportunity to get a close-up look at Halo 3 with Bungie representatives. We spoke with Brian Gerrard, one of Bungie's community managers, as well as CJ Cowan, the studio's cinematics director. Cowan stated that the trailer was a good example of where Halo 3 is going, in terms of fiction. By that, he means that the story is epic in scale, but dark as well, and Bungie is going for a distinct mood, since Halo 3 will represent the end of the trilogy.

The Bungie representatives made it clear to us that the trailer was running in real-time on the Xbox 360. The trailer is set in the African desert, and it was taken from roughly a third of the way through the game. Cowan noted that the constant battling has taken its toll on Master Chief, and you can see that by the many scratches and gouges in his armor. The flashes of Cortana seen in the trailer fill you in on the state of her mind, and the Forerunner structure seen in the distance at the end of the trailer represents a pivotal point in the story.


there u got bro you got your proof ;o


THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I was so pissed that I couldnt find where I read that before, hahahaha, you're awesome man!

"Proof"? He said that the Chief has dents in his armor, and the Ark of the Covenant is a thing that's important to the story. How is this 'proof' to your bogus theory?

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
"Proof"? He said that the Chief has dents in his armor, and the Ark of the Covenant is a thing that's important to the story. How is this 'proof' to your bogus theory?


Dude, its not proof toward my theory, I read somewhere that the trailer took place about 1/3 the way into the game and someone else said it didnt... so that was my "proof" that it did take place that far in...

"The Bungie representatives made it clear to us that the trailer was running in real-time on the Xbox 360. The trailer is set in the African desert, and it was taken from roughly a third of the way through the game. Cowan noted that the constant battling has taken its toll on Master Chief, and you can see that by the many scratches and gouges in his armor."


I cant wait to make an ass out of you, haha, everyone says that "ooooh its just a graphics upgrade, blah blah blah"

ALL of his armor is the same, and it looks ten times better then Halo 2, EXCEPT the gauntlets, they changed the gauntlets ALOT, and frankie said we'll find out why in due time... maybe, so when we do, Ill rub it in your face :)

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Straight up, its a good theory. MLG stop hatin because you didn't think of it first. Numb One you make great points and you have maintained a steadfast belief and I for one agree that it IS POSSIBLE that there is an upgrade but I also would not be getting my hopes up about it 'cause then if it dosn't happen you will be upset and it could cloud your judgement on how good the game really is.

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Posted by: Chargespeed xB
Straight up, its a good theory. MLG stop hatin because you didn't think of it first. Numb One you make great points and you have maintained a steadfast belief and I for one agree that it IS POSSIBLE that there is an upgrade but I also would not be getting my hopes up about it 'cause then if it dosn't happen you will be upset and it could cloud your judgement on how good the game really is.


Nah, Ill still like the game, it wont make me mad if Im not right, Im not saying that my way IS the way he gets those new gloves, Im just trying to suggest that they ARE new and he does somehow obtain them between when the game starts and before that cutscene, if Im wrong Im wrong, but Im pretty sure that those are new for a reason, not just graphics, thanks for the props Chargespeed xB

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I just updated the thread, please read the first post...

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Nice find...

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Good theory, I beleive that's a good way to improve us using the books without a new Mark armor( it would be too early to create one..) I mean, how many days have Passed during halo2? I heard it was 7. 7 Days to build something even stronger is almost imopssible unless they decided to tape 4 of 5 jackal shields to cover you from snipers..

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Posted by: OpsY 31337
Good theory, I beleive that's a good way to improve us using the books without a new Mark armor( it would be too early to create one..) I mean, how many days have Passed during halo2? I heard it was 7. 7 Days to build something even stronger is almost imopssible unless they decided to tape 4 of 5 jackal shields to cover you from snipers..


Yeah, there is no way that its all new armor... its pretty much just his gauntlets and minor details, but now that I have re-read "First Strike" I strongly believe that its just to upgade the motion tracker...

  • 05.23.2006 6:55 PM PDT

I only read the first post and the last one on page one, but I have a different theory about that turitorial. You find elites who know the Prophets are bad, and they take you to where on the ship they test their sheilds and stuff. After all, in Halo 1 and 2, you have allies to back you up. Why change that at all?

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Am I the only one that noticed that if the MC gets new armor it would be the MJOLNIR Mark VII ? That would tie in perfectly with their facination over the number 7.

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Posted by: burritosenior
I only read the first post and the last one on page one, but I have a different theory about that turitorial. You find elites who know the Prophets are bad, and they take you to where on the ship they test their sheilds and stuff. After all, in Halo 1 and 2, you have allies to back you up. Why change that at all?


The MC's shields ARE based off the Elites, but they are far better, so I dont think the Elites can test his shields and I highly doubt the Elites are going to have the MC's new upgrades... and in the end of Halo 2, I dont think the MC really knows that the Elites are on his side quite yet, he did meet with the Arbitor and Gravemind, but the Arbitor didnt act too friendly toward him...

And for allies, it wouldnt change, you can still have marines, and spartans fighting together, the more the better... nothing would change... you'd still have allies backing you up...

  • 05.23.2006 7:26 PM PDT