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I'm not sure what the exact lifespan of an AI is, but it seems Cortana's is coming to an end. As many people have stated before, Cortana'a face soemtimes seems to look distorted or like a demon. It is now clear that gravemind's,or some devilish voice, is with Cortana's. I think that Cortana has gone mental and has sided with Gravemind for something. My guess is some kind of flood invasion against the Covenant on Earth.

  • 05.12.2006 7:53 PM PDT
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An AI's typical lifespan is around seven years, then something just clicks in them. It's called rampancy.

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I don't think she has gone rouge......but I do believe she is very much irrational...........

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Yeah, that sounds possible. (the only reason I came in this thread is because you actually spelled deterioration right)

  • 05.12.2006 7:56 PM PDT
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If Rampancy is anything like it used to be, it seems to begin with a deterioration (the A.I. seems to be a child in the first stage), then the A.I. evolves intellectually.

I've heard about the 7 years, and I am not sure if it ends with death or Rampancy, but either way it would be possible for an A.I. to escape its normal programming to become Rampant before those 7 years are up, or even become Rampant and escape the programmed death.

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Posted by: Vertigo540
An AI's typical lifespan is around seven years, then something just clicks in them. It's called rampancy.


ye this was spoken of in the books.. they wont go crazy theyll just think themselves to death.

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Posted by: Mabian
If Rampancy is anything like it used to be, it seems to begin with a deterioration (the A.I. seems to be a child in the first stage), then the A.I. evolves intellectually.

I've heard about the 7 years, and I am not sure if it ends with death or Rampancy, but either way it would be possible for an A.I. to escape its normal programming to become Rampant before those 7 years are up, or even become Rampant and escape the programmed death.


What happens with a smart AI is that, as they procure more knowledge and experience, they start to think more and more. 7 years is the time it takes for that thinking to exceed the normal backround limits of a smart AI and start taking up foreground proccessing power. Soon afterwards, the AI will be so involved in thinking that all of its processes will go in to thinking, and it will no longer be capable of interaction or menial tasks.

Most AI have about 7 years, based on the time it takes for them to work up to that level of activity. However, when Cortana interfaced with Instillation 04, the immense ammount of data accelerated that growth. Therefore, it is easily possible that cortana has reached 7 years.

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Posted by: Mabian
If Rampancy is anything like it used to be, it seems to begin with a deterioration (the A.I. seems to be a child in the first stage), then the A.I. evolves intellectually.

I've heard about the 7 years, and I am not sure if it ends with death or Rampancy, but either way it would be possible for an A.I. to escape its normal programming to become Rampant before those 7 years are up, or even become Rampant and escape the programmed death.


What happens with a smart AI is that, as they procure more knowledge and experience, they start to think more and more. 7 years is the time it takes for that thinking to exceed the normal backround limits of a smart AI and start taking up foreground proccessing power. Soon afterwards, the AI will be so involved in thinking that all of its processes will go in to thinking, and it will no longer be capable of interaction or menial tasks.

Most AI have about 7 years, based on the time it takes for them to work up to that level of activity. However, when Cortana interfaced with Instillation 04, the immense ammount of data accelerated that growth. Therefore, it is easily possible that cortana has reached 7 years.


So basically....she is preparing for death?.............

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Posted by: einx359
What happens with a smart AI is that, as they procure more knowledge and experience, they start to think more and more. 7 years is the time it takes for that thinking to exceed the normal backround limits of a smart AI and start taking up foreground proccessing power. Soon afterwards, the AI will be so involved in thinking that all of its processes will go in to thinking, and it will no longer be capable of interaction or menial tasks.

Most AI have about 7 years, based on the time it takes for them to work up to that level of activity. However, when Cortana interfaced with Instillation 04, the immense ammount of data accelerated that growth. Therefore, it is easily possible that cortana has reached 7 years.


If it is truly Rampancy, then that occurence is not always going to happen. A Rampant A.I. (Rampancy with a capital "R" is very specific) is easily able to go past its normal limits. Rules and boundaries once set down by programmers are meaningless, because the A.I. no longer cares about it. The only flaw of a Rampant A.I. is that if it does not have any space to grow, it will die.

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Does anyone believe that installation 04 may have something to do with her insanity?..................

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i dont think thats the case here tho. if cortana is messed it prob cause gravemind is conrtolling her and we dunno why mabye she let him take over for goo purpose or he took over her anyways and were not sure yet what the heck hes talking about and whether "shes" even talking to chief.

I highly doubt cortana has gone crazy or that she is up to no good.

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Posted by: waverider004
I'm not sure what the exact lifespan of an AI is, but it seems Cortana's is coming to an end. As many people have stated before, Cortana'a face soemtimes seems to look distorted or like a demon. It is now clear that gravemind's,or some devilish voice, is with Cortana's. I think that Cortana has gone mental and has sided with Gravemind for something. My guess is some kind of flood invasion against the Covenant on Earth.


What if its not Rampancy. What if Cortana has found a way to become immortal in the AI sense. I mean, she has spent time with Gravemind in a Covenant computer only a few miles from Delta Halo. The Forerunner technology is limitless so that seems quite possible.
Or maybe she has somehow merged minds with Gravemind. [I seriously doubt he is controlling her.]

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Does anyone believe that installation 04 may have something to do with her insanity?..................


I could see a possibility for it. Rampancy is not set in stone, so it is possible that something in any of the Forerunner/Covenant computer systems Cortana was in could have triggered an early development. If so, I would guess High Charity had more to do with this than Installation 04 did.

The only problem I see with the idea of Cortana merging minds with Gravemind, or any theory like that, is that Gravemind is not an A.I. itself. It does not (or should not) have a way to get into a computer system and control Cortana.

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Posted by: Vertigo540
An AI's typical lifespan is around seven years, then something just clicks in them. It's called rampancy.


Err, no, they just die, actualy.
I'm pretty sure that Cortana is just altered by gravemind.
Rampancy only occurs when an AI becomes self aware, when they want to not be trated as an AI, but to be treated as a human.

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Does anyone believe that installation 04 may have something to do with her insanity?..................


I could see a possibility for it. Rampancy is not set in stone, so it is possible that something in any of the Forerunner/Covenant computer systems Cortana was in could have triggered an early development. If so, I would guess High Charity had more to do with this than Installation 04 did.


Perhaps........kinda like a virus of some sort...............

But my main speculation lies within forerunner tech........Not much is actually know on their technology.......so I believe that her time within the system affected her mental stability...........maybe the wealth of information was enough to send her spiraling into mental deterioration.................

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i dont think thats the case here tho. if cortana is messed it prob cause gravemind is conrtolling her and we dunno why mabye she let him take over for goo purpose or he took over her anyways and were not sure yet what the heck hes talking about and whether "shes" even talking to chief.

I highly doubt cortana has gone crazy or that she is up to no good.


actualy on the level high charity cortana says that she senses a presence in the forerunner ship which may have been gravemind or a avatarless forerunner A.I.

  • 05.12.2006 9:13 PM PDT