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Subject: A Comparative List of Why Halo: Reach is NOT Halo


Posted by: con_extreme
reach not being halo is still just an opinion, if it isn't then by your logic halo 2 isn't halo and since halo 2 isn't halo that makes halo 3 not halo as well.


Yes, that part is an opinion, I guess at it's core it's a Halo game, but the layers around that core are very different. But I never said it was bad, I was just stating the differences (or trying to) between the games. It's kinda like the evolution of man... Somehow we jumped from monkeys to humans... Where's the missing link between Halo 3 and Reach?

  • 01.10.2012 12:37 AM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme
reach not being halo is still just an opinion, if it isn't then by your logic halo 2 isn't halo and since halo 2 isn't halo that makes halo 3 not halo as well.

halo 2 added faster and higher jumping, took away fall damage and health.
added dual wielding. and destructable vehicles and lock on rockets. halo 2 had changes as well and it did well.

  • 01.10.2012 12:37 AM PDT


Posted by: hellstorm5

Posted by: con_extreme
reach not being halo is still just an opinion, if it isn't then by your logic halo 2 isn't halo and since halo 2 isn't halo that makes halo 3 not halo as well.


Yes, that part is an opinion, I guess at it's core it's a Halo game, but the layers around that core are very different. But I never said it was bad, I was just stating the differences (or trying to) between the games. It's kinda like the evolution of man... Somehow we jumped from monkeys to humans... Where's the missing link between Halo 3 and Reach?

moving AAs from pick ups to select at spawn.

  • 01.10.2012 12:38 AM PDT


Posted by: hellstorm5

Posted by: con_extreme
reach not being halo is still just an opinion, if it isn't then by your logic halo 2 isn't halo and since halo 2 isn't halo that makes halo 3 not halo as well.


Yes, that part is an opinion, I guess at it's core it's a Halo game, but the layers around that core are very different. But I never said it was bad, I was just stating the differences (or trying to) between the games. It's kinda like the evolution of man... Somehow we jumped from monkeys to humans... Where's the missing link between Halo 3 and Reach?


we as humans didn't evolve though, there is actual evidence indicating that modern man, as we are to day, dates back much farther then we are lead to believe, even living with more primitive versions that we are though that have evolved from.

  • 01.10.2012 12:40 AM PDT

One more analogy... The jump from Halo 3 to Reach is like taking a fish out of it's natural habitat and instantly putting it into a fish tank... You can't do that. You have to gradually equalize the temperatures between the two bodies of water so the fish doesn't die of shock. I feel like there needed to be a game between Halo 3 and Reach.

Obviously Reach didn't die, but still, it was very jarring.

  • 01.10.2012 12:42 AM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme

we as humans didn't evolve though, there is actual evidence indicating that modern man, as we are to day, dates back much farther then we are lead to believe, even living with more primitive versions that we are though that have evolved from.


Possible, I was just using the mainstream belief as an analogy.

  • 01.10.2012 12:44 AM PDT


Posted by: bashmeister2

moving AAs from pick ups to select at spawn.


That's probably what they were thinking. Maybe also they wanted to go out with a bang since it was their last game. But that still wasn't a minor tweak, that was a fundamental change, along with the bloom. I can see 1 fundamental change, but 2? Along with a bunch of minor tweaks?

  • 01.10.2012 12:49 AM PDT

I personally think Halo Reach is better than Halo3 because it is a bit more fast pace then Halo3 without it being too fast pace like CoD. And it adds a little bit of spice with armour abilities.
The only bad thing I can see about Halo Reach is armour-lock and the banshees endless flipping and bombs.


So at the end of the day I do not care how it got from Halo3 to Halo reach, all I know is that I enjoy Halo Reach.


And in Halo:CE:

-the Ghost did not have the speeding

-the flipping and speeding on the banshee was not around.

-The health and shield is 100% different in Halo2 than it is in Halo:CE.

-In Halo:CE you could not act the Elites

-In Halo:CE the Tank and others did not blow up.

There are just as many if not more differences between Halo:CE and Halo2 than there is between Halo3 and Halo Reach.


And by a matter of fact Halo Reach brought back some game-play from Halo:CE like:


-The pistol
-One wielding weapons
-Health bar

To name a few.


[Edited on 01.10.2012 12:56 AM PST]

  • 01.10.2012 12:52 AM PDT
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  • 01.10.2012 12:52 AM PDT

OP watch this (its gametrailers) halo 2 noobifed the series more

  • 01.10.2012 1:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: ContentedEntree
I personally think Halo Reach is better than Halo3 because it is a bit more fast pace then Halo3 without it being too fast pace like CoD.

Wut.

  • 01.10.2012 1:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: ContentedEntree
I personally think Halo Reach is better than Halo3 because it is a bit more fast pace then Halo3 without it being too fast pace like CoD.

Wut.


Common, playing Halo3 was like playing an old 90s game. It's like playing Quake Area or Duke Nukem 3D...

  • 01.10.2012 1:13 AM PDT


Posted by: ContentedEntree

Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: ContentedEntree
I personally think Halo Reach is better than Halo3 because it is a bit more fast pace then Halo3 without it being too fast pace like CoD.

Wut.


Common, playing Halo3 was like playing an old 90s game. It's like playing Quake Area or Duke Nukem 3D...

Wtf are you on?

  • 01.10.2012 1:17 AM PDT

A chair.

  • 01.10.2012 1:20 AM PDT


Posted by: ContentedEntree
A chair.

You really think Halo Reach has faster kill times?

  • 01.10.2012 1:22 AM PDT


Posted by: Puma xSDSx

Posted by: ContentedEntree
A chair.

You really think Halo Reach has faster kill times?

I did not say that... I said the games pace feels faster.

[Edited on 01.10.2012 1:24 AM PST]

  • 01.10.2012 1:24 AM PDT


Posted by: ContentedEntree

Posted by: Puma xSDSx

Posted by: ContentedEntree
A chair.

You really think Halo Reach has faster kill times?

I did not say that... I said the games pace feels faster.

With slower movement speed, lower jump height, slower kill time, and armor lock?

  • 01.10.2012 1:26 AM PDT

..........................Shut up

  • 01.10.2012 1:28 AM PDT

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  • 01.10.2012 1:29 AM PDT

This poster is obviously a Halo 3 Fanboy. Halo 1 had fall damage and Shields and health system. Halo 2 had rare snipes my ass look up Halo 2 noobified and your will see how "hard" sniping was. Do better research if you are gonna bash something. As for the vehicles flipping I know several ways to easily flip a vehicle in each game.

I am not defending Reach don't get me wrong, but I like it when someone bashes something for right reason other than being a fanboy.

  • 01.10.2012 1:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: hellstorm5
These are just the facts people.

Let me stop you right there.


Permanent reticle (no bloom) ---(vs.)--- Expanding reticle (bloom)

While Halo 1/2/3 had static reticles, believe or not they still effectively had bloom.


No armor abilities (had to earn perks by picking them up) ---(vs.)--- 5 armor abilities (perks are given to you)

That one is correct.


Shields only ---(vs.)--- Shields and health

Halo 1 had health as well. Have you ever played Halo 1?


Mostly skill based ranking system ---(vs.)--- Mostly game time based ranking system

Halo 1: What ranking system?
Halo 2: Correct.
Halo 3: Correct but at the same time, incorrect. The system was highly exploitable.


No fall damage ---(vs.)--- Fall damage (that also stuns you)

Halo 1 had fall damage, once again, have you ever played Halo 1?


3 bullet burst BR (Halo 2 & 3) ---(vs.)--- Single shot DMR

Correct, but how does that make Halo: Reach not a Halo game?


Sniper head shots rare ---(vs.)--- Sniper head shots common (almost expected)

Hitscan,

Halo 1/3: head shot = head shot, body shot or miss.
Halo 2/Reach: head shot = head shot.


Vehicles very hard to flip when driving ---(vs.)--- Vehicles very easy to flip when driving

It is incredibly easy to flip vehicles while driving them in Halo 1.


Can't flip vehicles by shooting them with basic weapons ---(vs.)--- Can flip vehicles with one DMR shot

I have never noticed this.

Here is my suggestion, get your facts right before stating said facts.

  • 01.10.2012 1:56 AM PDT
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  • 01.10.2012 2:00 AM PDT

Posted by: kikashi hatake
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Posted by: hellstorm5
Halo 1/2/3 vs. Halo: Reach
Shields only ---(vs.)--- Shields and health
Mostly skill based ranking system ---(vs.)--- Mostly game time based ranking system
No fall damage ---(vs.)--- Fall damage (that also stuns you)
3 bullet burst BR (Halo 2 & 3) ---(vs.)--- Single shot DMR

CE had health and shields.
CE didn't have a ranking system.
CE had fall damage.
CE multiplayer was all about the Magnum, a semi-automatic weapon, like the DMR.

Reach is more of a Halo game than 2/3.

  • 01.10.2012 2:01 AM PDT
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Reach is still technically Halo...it's just the shhhittiest Halo.

  • 01.10.2012 2:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Most people on here are already well aware of this.

  • 01.10.2012 2:48 AM PDT