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Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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When I viewed the trailer, I thought the exact same thing. I posted ina thread somewere. Still, great job.

  • 05.20.2006 5:27 PM PDT
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There is no Halo unde the Earth's crust. If there was, someone would have found it before 2552. The more realistic, more plausible possibility is that the structure is, indeed, the Ark.

Now, take a look at this. The picture taken from the Making of Halo 2 DVD corresponds almost perfectly with the real time render of the Ark as given in the teaser trailer.

The structure is the Ark, not another Halo.

I think the thing openning is the Ark..though not the one that saves us. It is the Ark of the Covenant, also a control room for the Main Ark..

Earth as a whole is the Real Ark (Noah's Ark, but cannot destroy the Halos without it's control room - Ark of the Covenant)


If there were two arks Penitent Tangent would have said "Arks" not "Ark."

Tangent never said you'd be safe on the Ark did he? He could simply be referring to the Ark of the Covenant while we think that the Ark he is referring to is the Noah's Ark Ark.

There is still room for there to be 2 Arks, since one is for the Halos to Activate, and one is for the safety of the people who are to be saved.


And why would they make them a separate structure?

  • 05.20.2006 5:27 PM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust
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A few things:

1: It is hard to say who the Forerunner were at all. I believe there are two possibilities.

First: The Forerunner's were humans. One of the flaws of the game/trailer is that the likely hood of our not finding the weapon we see in the trailer is very slim. It wasn't buried deep enough to evade centuries of progress. The placement of the weapon is dependent upon convenience and the fact it is a game after all. The Halo / Ark system was devised to contain (destroy) the flood by killing it's food. Simply put, the flood were still in existence on the first halo. Therefore, it would seem that the Forerunner had not completely perished for otherwise who would contain them. Also, in the first Halo, Guilty Spark says something to the effect that it is glad the species was able to procreate and continue. It is brief, but it is there.

Second: The Forerunner were not human at all and were all destroyed in the first activation of the Halo / Ark system. The problem with this for me is that the Flood were still contained on Halo. Surely they would have had to be contained by some means and by someone. Otherwise, thousands of years later, they would not have existed.

The Halo / Ark System:

Everyone keeps referring to the Ark as if it is a device on Earth. It is more likely that the Ark is the Earth itself. It was likely created by the Forerunner to power the emmense energy needed to produce the central point at which the various radii of the Halo / Ark system would converge. This is mentioned in brief at the end of Halo 2. Therefore, it is likely that there are more than one of the devices we saw in the trailer, there would be one for every Halo created.

I admit I have not read The Flood so I might be missing something as to their continued existence, but it seems odd that the weapon would be fired and they still exist. Wouldn't that make the weapon ineffective?

Sidenote: Part of me hopes that the trailer is partially incomplete. I want to treat that sequence as a dream sequence that Master Cheif has as he is on his way to earth. Possibly a beginning sequence in Halo 3? After hearing Cortana's final words Cheif could reply, "Not if I have anything to do about it."

  • 05.20.2006 5:28 PM PDT
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Sidenote: Part of me hopes that the trailer is partially incomplete. I want to treat that sequence as a dream sequence that Master Cheif has as he is on his way to earth. Possibly a beginning sequence in Halo 3? After hearing Cortana's final words Cheif could reply, "Not if I have anything to do about it."

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  • 05.20.2006 5:32 PM PDT
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That's cool, but where does something say that it isn't a dream sequence. This isn't to say it definetly is, I'm just curious what you're basing it off of.

  • 05.20.2006 5:40 PM PDT
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I'm mainly basing it off of commone sense. Have there been dream sequences before in Halo? Does the Chief really have time to daydream on his way down to earth? Bungie has stated that the trailer does not take place early in the game, which is where it would have to be if it were taking place when MC is heading back to earth.

  • 05.20.2006 5:42 PM PDT
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That's fair, so it's probably not. But I have a hard time believeing that the destruction of earth is the conclusion to the game. Hence, this is how the world ends..., perhaps it is maticulous, but as self proclaimed professional storytellers, Bungie would not leave a trail that did not lead somewhere. It would otherwise be "This is how the world ends" period.

  • 05.20.2006 5:48 PM PDT
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Yea, I doubt the earth is destroyed in Halo 3 also. We'll jsut have to wait and see how Bungie writes the story.

  • 05.20.2006 5:50 PM PDT

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10,000kms from inner rim to inner rim + 22.3x2 for the Halo's structural thickness = 10,044.6kms. Still fits inside Earths diameter



Why would you build a halo in earth. That defeats the purpose of it. Do you know how bad that would screw with Earth's magnetic field? Wouldn't the searing hot magma inside Earth be a factor here? Why would you go through the trouble of putting something that huge inside Earth then covering it up?

  • 05.20.2006 5:58 PM PDT
Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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This post may seem out of place, but I wanted to say it ever since I was blacklisted.

I like the idea of slipspacing peices of earth out and slipspacing a halo into it. One reason I like it is that the moon would be the material left over. Scientists say the moon is made of the exact same rock as the Earth, it'd make sence.

  • 05.20.2006 5:59 PM PDT
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This post may seem out of place, but I wanted to say it ever since I was blacklisted.

I like the idea of slipspacing peices of earth out and slipspacing a halo into it. One reason I like it is that the moon would be the material left over. Scientists say the moon is made of the exact same rock as the Earth, it'd make sence.


So how did the pieces of earth slip-space out again? The idea of a Halo inside the Earth is not plausible at all.

  • 05.20.2006 6:05 PM PDT
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I'm telling you all, there is no "Halo" in the earth. The earth is in and of itself the Ark, the center of the containment system built to eliminate the threat of the flood.

The earth acts as the center point for the whole system. From the earth, energy is shot from different positions on the earth to align with the halos. Hence, why the Halos had to reposition themselves at the end of Halo 2; otherwise, they would have just fired.

The problem with my logic:

If my theory is correct then all of the halos would have to line up in order for the system to work. At the end of Halo 2, the halos do not reposition until there is a problem on Delta Halo. We could rationalize this by saying that the system could be started from any one of the halos, and upon communication with the ark, all of the halos would align anyway.

The toss up:

So many halos exist in order to contain the flood in specific contaiminated areas. If the flood were concentrated in the areas around Delta Halo, Delta Halo would be the only one fired, and the Ark would fire also. The meeting of the energy is an explosion which eminates 3 whatever, as Tangent said, to eliminate the threat.

  • 05.20.2006 6:14 PM PDT
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Hey.. are the little particle things you mentioned, the ones that traveled through space as though it was empty, are those subatomic? Bungie mentioned something abouyt subatomic energies when asked about the swirling cloud.

  • 05.20.2006 6:30 PM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust
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The thing coming out of the Earths crust isnt a Halo ring its................................................






































THE ARK!

[Edited on 5/20/2006]

  • 05.20.2006 6:33 PM PDT
Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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Hey.. are the little particle things you mentioned, the ones that traveled through space as though it was empty, are those subatomic? Bungie mentioned something abouyt subatomic energies when asked about the swirling cloud.


I don't know what "particles" your talking about, but the clouds were swirling because of a never-before-seen surge of energy in the area due to the activation of the Ark.

  • 05.20.2006 6:33 PM PDT
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The nutrinos. Are those subatomic?

  • 05.20.2006 6:37 PM PDT
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I think you mean "neutrons" which are the subatomic particles in the nucleus of an atom.

  • 05.20.2006 6:40 PM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust

Your mom hides a Halo under her crust. Sorry. I had to. [/sarcasm]

  • 05.20.2006 6:46 PM PDT
Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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Does this subatomis, nutrino etc talk really matter?

  • 05.20.2006 6:46 PM PDT
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Does this subatomis, nutrino etc talk really matter?


Just helping him out. This entire thread doesn't really matter, because this theory holds no water. At all.

  • 05.20.2006 6:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
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There is no Halo unde the Earth's crust. If there was, someone would have found it before 2552. The more realistic, more plausible possibility is that the structure is, indeed, the Ark.

Now, take a look at this. The picture taken from the Making of Halo 2 DVD corresponds almost perfectly with the real time render of the Ark as given in the teaser trailer.

The structure is the Ark, not another Halo.

I think the thing openning is the Ark..though not the one that saves us. It is the Ark of the Covenant, also a control room for the Main Ark..

Earth as a whole is the Real Ark (Noah's Ark, but cannot destroy the Halos without it's control room - Ark of the Covenant)


If there were two arks Penitent Tangent would have said "Arks" not "Ark."

Tangent never said you'd be safe on the Ark did he? He could simply be referring to the Ark of the Covenant while we think that the Ark he is referring to is the Noah's Ark Ark.

There is still room for there to be 2 Arks, since one is for the Halos to Activate, and one is for the safety of the people who are to be saved.


And why would they make them a separate structure?

Because:
We need a place to be safe, and large enough to fit a civilization on.
We need something to actually control the rings, and the Earth cannot do that, but a control room built on the Earth that transmits can.


I'm not syaing they're two Arks really..but I'm saying they're two things with opposite purposes. One saves us from the Rings' "Cleansing Flame" while the other activates them.

There are two Arks from Religion, and one was used to save us from the Flood, and one was a super weapon..a control room would be linked to both the rings and the Earth, so it could still be considered a super weapon. Like the trigger on a Rifle, the Ark is the trigger for the Rings.

  • 05.20.2006 6:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Because:
We need a place to be safe, and large enough to fit a civilization on.
We need something to actually control the rings, and the Earth cannot do that, but a control room built on the Earth that transmits can.


I'm not syaing they're two Arks really..but I'm saying they're two things with opposite purposes. One saves us from the Rings' "Cleansing Flame" while the other activates them.

There are two Arks from Religion, and one was used to save us from the Flood, and one was a super weapon..a control room would be linked to both the rings and the Earth, so it could still be considered a super weapon. Like the trigger on a Rifle, the Ark is the trigger for the Rings.


Okay, that makes some sense to me. The Ark is the control room for the "safehaven" that is earth, itself. Cool.

  • 05.20.2006 6:55 PM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust
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No. I read it but your logic is baaaad. the halo's circumfrances was 10 000 KM. SO NO!
So? Earth's diameter is 12,756.3 KM. That seems to fit pretty well.
yeah but unless that hole is a couple hundred KM's deep (which it isn't as it is 3 miles wide) it souldn'y work.


yes but in his theory he states that if regrets ship was carrying one of the slip space crystals then the blast radius would have been 10 000 KM in all directions, sufficient to reveal a significant chunck of the ring

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This is a well thought out and written theory, but I have a question... I havent played Halo 2 since I joined the military (almost a year), but the structure on Delta Halo which you're relating the uncovered structer on earth too... that structure that fired was on the inside of the ring wasn't it? While if a Halo was uncovered under earth, we'd be looking at the outside of it.

  • 05.20.2006 7:21 PM PDT