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Posted by: XxsnowyxX
Don't know much about the whole halo story, but It kinda looks like that thing was dropped there from space and its opening up, but I imagine I would leave a much bigger hole.


They had to dig it out of the earth so I don't think it was dropped.

  • 05.26.2006 7:06 PM PDT

What do you mean you dont know much of halos story get out of here!

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HAHA if you say plz i will leave. sorry if i dont know but how do you know they dug it out.

  • 05.26.2006 7:09 PM PDT
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Wow......Empire you definitely spent a LOT of time coming up with this theory......cant say i agree with all of it but it's one of the best ive seen yet.....good job

  • 05.26.2006 7:11 PM PDT
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Original theory = pooie, says MLG Cheehwawa

Do you get in trouble if you use real swear words in your religion Cheehwawa. Come on hit the forums with some real -blam!- man. No one on here will tell your daddy priest.


[Edited on 5/26/2006]

  • 05.26.2006 7:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: XxsnowyxX
HAHA if you say plz i will leave. sorry if i dont know but how do you know they dug it out.


There are two theories:

1. The Covenant ship that entered slip space inside the city exposed the top of the Ark.

2. Franky has already said in a Weekly Update that the Covenant forces in the trailer are an excavation team. Excavation teams....excavate, hence dig.

Read the Weekly Updates and the FAQ, it might answer all of your questions.

[Edited on 5/27/2006]

  • 05.26.2006 7:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halo Empire
Original theory = pooie, says MLG Cheehwawa

Do you get in trouble if you use real swear words in your religion Cheehwawa. Come on hit the forums with some real -blam!- man. No one on here will tell your daddy priest.


Lets keep it civil. Just because he disagrees doens't mean you need to get fathers involved. Play nice, kiddies.

  • 05.26.2006 7:15 PM PDT
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Damn, Wrong again, someday Phreakshow I will proof you wrong, someday.

  • 05.26.2006 7:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Halo Empire
Original theory = pooie, says MLG Cheehwawa

Do you get in trouble if you use real swear words in your religion Cheehwawa. Come on hit the forums with some real -blam!- man. No one on here will tell your daddy priest.

Hey, it's not me whose trying to defend an impossible theory when so many people disagree. Why don't you just give up on it, and if it comes true (which it won't) we will all apologize to you.

But, original theory = pooie.

Wanna see two theories, thought up by me in a matter of minutes, that are more likely to come true than yours?

Theory 1
Whoa...wait a second guys. I never though that only a structure on Earth was the Ark based off of Noah's Ark...and we all know that the control room (which is also an Ark: Ark of the Covenant).

Someone mentioned the dinosaurs...now, I don't think Earth was a full-fledged colony per say, but just a planet the Forerunners controlled (perhaps they vacationed here, or hunted dinos, lol).

So..possibly, since all the larger dinos would be sentient and totally Flood-controllable, maybe the Ark needs to be a structure on Earth, with a shield defending it from the force which scrambles central nervous systems, gaining access through smart brains.

So...the Dinos are all killed by the Rings, the ice age starts, and some of the Forerunners' favorite animals survive along with a group of Forerunners. Not much, but a multiple of two (which is how we think of Adam + Eve, then Noah's Ark with the animals, and the Flood which killed everythigng else).

The iceage could've just been a fluke, or possibly a side effect from the atmosphere changing rapidly, and could've happened everywhere..also, it could've covered up much Forerunner tech, and after the ice age, the Prophets grabbed it and ran.

Theory 2
Humans + Prophets = Old Covenant

They spanned all over the Galaxy (which will explain why Earth, Reach, Cote'd Azur, and the Prophet+Elites' home world were some of their planets)

Prophets got sick of the humans, and when the Flood got too powerful, the rings were set off as planned and the two civilizations went to the Ark to survive.

The Prophets, being the evil bastards they were stole everything and ran. We were left on Earth, and the story of the happenings changed over many many years, and thats how we got our Bible.

The Prohets wanted to make sure they could take us out (we were physically stronger, and gaining tech by the year), so they started to form a new Covenant after a new race evolved on their world.

They got as many races into the Covenant by brute force, and by fake religious promises of some great journey.

When they finally see us in battle, they attack right away stating that we are an affront to the gods, covering up the fact that we are actually their gods, then the war begins.

Halo 3 will tie up all the loose ends....

  • 05.26.2006 7:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: XxsnowyxX
Damn, Wrong again, someday Phreakshow I will proof you wrong, someday.


lol, that's going in my sig now. Thanks, snow!

  • 05.26.2006 7:31 PM PDT
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Look I just get tired of people saying "Its the Ark like Noahs Ark because Noah had a Flood and Halo has a Flood so it must be Noahs Ark but Halos Ark just not old like Noahs Ark but old like a Forerunner Ark but the same just not made of wood and tar -blam!- but like steel and stuff you know like big technology and that sort a stuff"
Look I'm not worried if I am wrong, In fact I would hate to of pre empted the whole Halo story and then play the game through with out the surprises in the plot I got with the first two Halo games. I am just calling it how I see it and applying what I think is an intelligent course of logic and speculation based on what I think is doable in a Halo science fiction sort of way based on the visual evidence of the Halo3 Trailer. I encourage open intelligent speculation and debate on the whole theory. It's been more than welcomed, in fact essential throughout the development of this theory. But a 10000 character limit on the original post makes for a difficult medium to elaborate in and answer some of the criticisms being dealt out over the last 29 pages of posts if you can be bothered to read it all. It’s just that Bible Boy (You know who you are!) has seldom had anything intelligent to say let alone been able to withstand the temptation to lace his words with -blam!-. Also when I engage him with a question that not only could debunks my theory but also his and many others (see below for question) he uses all the decorum of a dodgy senator in avoiding a reply to the question.

The Question: HOW DID THE MASSIVE 60KM WIDE OBJECT IN THE HALO3 TRAILER WITH OVER 7KM OF UNDISTURBED GEOGRAPHY ABOVE IT THAT IS MORE THAN A BILLION YEARS OLD GET THERE ?

  • 05.26.2006 9:42 PM PDT
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We've been here since you left.
We left before you came.

the whole point is that half of the covenant fleet was there
its a big powerful blue thingie
and MC is gonna pull something out of his ass to save the earth
just like always
cuz he pwns like that

  • 05.26.2006 9:45 PM PDT

Dont be angry, I'm obligated to whip your ass; if I didn't you wouldn't be getting your moneys worth.

before i start i would like to say that superbouncing is NOT cheating. If we consult the faq section we will notice that it is not considered cheating since it is an abiltiy that ALL Haloers have the option to use. If it was cheating Bungie certainly would have removed it from the game in an update, don't you think?

I read the theory and found it to be most interesting. I have but only one criticism that maybe someone can research. If a halo is in fact located under the earth, then this means that it must occupy space that was once occupied by earthly elements. A halo is a massive ring, constructed from metals and other various elements that more than likely have a greater mass than the collective sum of the earth it now occupies. If this is the case, it is likely that the addition of this halo comprised of dense metals with signifcant mass would alter the orbit of Earth around the sun. Now an obvious objection someone could raise to this point is that the Earth's current orbit is an altered orbit that resulted from the forerunner's additon of the ring to the Earth's inner workings and thats the only orbit people of Earth have ever experienced. In any case I find it highly doubtful that their is a halo under the Earth for several reasons. First, we all know that Halo's are weapons that are used to destroy the flood; that is their purpose, so why bury a weapon in a place it can't be effetively used. Secondly, Every Halo we have been on is a system that simulates conditons we are familiar to on Earth. Becuase all halos do this, one buried underneath the Earth wouldnt be able to do this. On a final note, someone mentioned the words of 343. When Cortana asks where one would need to go to activate Halo he merely replies, "why Earth, of course." This could mean one of two things; either the Earth can iniate remote activation of the other halos, or the beam of light we see leaving the earth is the initial point from where the destructive power of the halo's begins and is amplified by interacting with the other rings. It seems that the rings do not act and will not act on an individual basis but rather work in unison when unleashing their power. The earth itself is the Ark, what is contained within the earth is the last line of defense to repel the consuming nature of the flood. The earth is the beginning and the end. When the flood is destroyed humans and covenant together- or one or the other- will become the new forerunners in the recreation of the universe. They wil leave the Earth, travel to the halos which have been built as weapons but also are capable of supporting life and repopulate the universe. From this the cycle will repeat it self in circular fasion such as the shape of a halo. A ring of, or more commonly known as the circle of life. Birth destruction rebirth destruction rebirth destruction rebirth destruction rebirth destruction rebirth destruction. People have quoted the T.S Eliot poem in reference to Cortana's words the last line is depressing and bleak we get the closure that we want but it will be at a great cost and a great loss. Master Chief will parish....?

  • 05.26.2006 9:53 PM PDT
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What if the entire planet is some sort of forerunner technology and not just a ring inside a planet??

  • 05.26.2006 9:59 PM PDT
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I agree with you on that. It probably has tons of geo-thermal power stored after being burred for so long. (hope it wasn't solar powerd lol)

  • 05.27.2006 1:56 AM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust
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The Forerunner's may have lived on earth , But they were superior to everything else. So they left in search of a new planet to dominate, and left what is living on earth today behind. So that may be why a 'Halo' is underneath the earth's surface.

Bet you never thought of that.

  • 05.27.2006 2:17 AM PDT
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First off, I doubt continental drift would cause the Halo to be ripped apart, because the majority of it would be buried in magma, the convection currents of which would most likely not have sufficient force to pull it apart.
Now, for the covenant to excavate an entire Halo out of the Earth, they would have to dig trenches up to 2000km deep in some places, into the Earth's magma, and once they had finished, they'd have to somehow remove it from Earth without breaking it. The easiest thing to do to remove the Halo from Earth would be to simply cut the planet in half, which isn't very plausible.
If this is a Halo, I think that instead of removing it from the Earth they would just find the control room, and set it off there.

  • 05.27.2006 2:31 AM PDT
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Great theory, but maybe earth only has the dome section thats on all other halo's and in the Halo 3 announcement trailer its responding to Delta Halo's beacon ?, which would further the theory that Earth is in fact the Ark as in that these domes could be the Halo's means of communicating with each other ?

  • 05.27.2006 3:48 AM PDT

May you be in heaven long before the devil knows you're dead.

Theories gotta love 'em.

Mine.

1. I don't think there's a Halo in the Earth. First the 'artifact' in the tralier is only a few miles beneath the surface which means it would have problems with the tectonic plates. Also, it would seem a bit redundant to place a Halo in the Earth if the other Halos were already in range. I believe it's the 'Ark'. It's Forerunner technology so it's going to be similar to the Halos. No science, just common sense.

2. Master Chief's gonna die. As Agent Smith so eloquently puts it, "It is inevitable."

3. We're gonna play as another spartan for parts of the game. Whether we want to or not.

4. Master Chief will fire the rings, not the covenant. How else will the Flood be stopped?

  • 05.27.2006 4:02 AM PDT
Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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This theory makes a lot of sense.

It beats a lot of the drek i painfully sift through once a week or so, and gives bungie a great excuse for the distinct possibility that earth is not glassed already.

keep in mind the majority of reach was glassed before they even reached what they were looking for, and also that MC would not have much to fight for with a dead humanity.

as for tectonic action.. it is a possibility that the earthquakes experienced worldwide are a result of the crust having to slip around a huge metal ring.. who is to say things would not be moving more smoothly and freely without such a huge obstruction?

[Edited on 5/27/2006]

  • 05.27.2006 5:09 AM PDT
Subject: Solid Evidence The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust
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The only question is, what is Halo's circumference/diametre

I can answer it... All rings are different sizes. The first Halo, found in Halo: Combat Evolved was definitely larger than the one encountered in Halo 2, Delta Halo. Clearly, all the rings are not the same size, so it is still possible that a very much smaller ring were hidden beneath the earth's crust...

Once again, we're basing all these theories on a two-minute trailer, Weekly Bungie Updates, and a Frequently Asked Question section. Just wait a few months for something decent to come out... I can't deny how entertaining it is to speculate though.

  • 05.27.2006 5:25 AM PDT
Subject: The Earth Hides a Halo Under its Crust. ***UPDATED***
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Posted by: plasmacutter
This theory makes a lot of sense.

It beats a lot of the drek i painfully sift through once a week or so, and gives bungie a great excuse for the distinct possibility that earth is not glassed already.

keep in mind the majority of reach was glassed before they even reached what they were looking for, and also that MC would not have much to fight for with a dead humanity.

as for tectonic action.. it is a possibility that the earthquakes experienced worldwide are a result of the crust having to slip around a huge metal ring.. who is to say things would not be moving more smoothly and freely without such a huge obstruction?


How do we know the Covenant did not glass earth?

With Reach, we can all agree that it was glassed beginning at the poles but they left the equator untouched until they new the stone they were after was no longer there. This may be the case with Earth as well. Once again, we'll need a lot more information than a two minute trailer.

  • 05.27.2006 5:27 AM PDT
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I do not think the earth has a halo in it - that structure was not dropped though - it was constructed - everyone in the thread has been looking in delta halo the first level but I think it is the wrong level - if u go to the level where u r chasing the prophet of truth [second or third to last level-I can check if needed] and u r overlooking the city - get to the part where their is a huge outdoor room with the pit - snipers on either side [sniper tower on the right] as u enter the area - get up to the top of the rock wall lining the left side, u will be overlooking the city/structures below - and u will see the ship u piggyback to earth at the end of the game - this ship is sitting in the center of the structure that they find on earth - this is a forerunner ship and fits with the theory of an arc being a ship or on earth or both - it opens the same way and it has the center of light - u can completely see that u r looking at the bottom part of the same opening type thing in the H3 vid. Bungie said u will see familiar things in the faq and I think that is part of what they meant - I am almost certain it is the arc but that takes a bit more speculation as we do not yet know the nature of the arc - what we do know based on what we saw on delta halo - is that a forerunner ship is sitting in the middle of the pit at the center of the light.

  • 05.27.2006 6:04 AM PDT
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It's quite simple, the chief fights for earth and his fellow soldiers.

no humanity, no reason to fight, no premise for halo3

  • 05.27.2006 6:14 AM PDT