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Subject: Was it right to leave this match?
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Second game of Invasion for today and I get matched up with a full party, figures. Seriously, the search system doesn't work at all. I put it Lone Wolf, quiet, good time and something else I can't remember and I still face full parties like there's no tomorrow. I've seen the game on my history, but damn... my team got humiliated, how can anyone have the nerve to stay and go -61, I know I wouldn't.

Yesterday was a whole parade of full party teams, one after another. I try to hold my own, but it's too much, even for me. I won't stay in to get slaughtered, luckily I haven't come across the quit ban on my DeathLordDaniel profile yet. I barely quit unless the stakes are in their favour. I just like to know, was I right to quit this match or what?

Here is the link to the game.

  • 01.12.2012 6:46 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

What tipped you off that they were a full party?

As for those 2 dumbasses that stayed...
God people are stupid.

People this is a perfect example of why the quit ban FAILS!
If the Majority of your team leaves. Noone respects you if you remain and go -60. If I was on the opposite team, I'm getting pissed because your wasting my -blam!- time. QUIT LIKE THE REST OF YOUR TEAM. So people can move on with their lives and get a decent match. Instead of wasting it on you.

[Edited on 01.12.2012 6:52 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 6:51 AM PDT

They might not have gone -58 and -61 had 2/3s of their team not quit.

  • 01.12.2012 6:52 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

They should have quit like everyone else.
It's not a matter of might not have gone. It is what it is.
And they chose to stay like a bunch of idiots. Trying to prove something.

Well, they certainly proved it.

I mean you people do realize that when it reaches a situation where your team quits..If you quit too. EVERYONE involved, is able to move on that much quicker.

If you choose to stay, YOU ARE IN FACT more of a problem than the actual quitters. And should be punished for it.

[Edited on 01.12.2012 6:57 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 6:54 AM PDT

Or people like OP (and apparently you) shouldn't immediately quit games because they MIGHT lose.

God forbid anyone ever lose, right?

  • 01.12.2012 6:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S

If I was on the opposite team, I'm getting pissed because your wasting my -blam!- time. QUIT LIKE THE REST OF YOUR TEAM. So people can move on with their lives and get a decent match. Instead of wasting it on you.


This. I got a decent party together a few days ago and we played Anniversary Squad and Classic. Literally every game we played 2 or 3 members of the opposing team quit before 25 kills, leaving us with 2 rockets, 2 snipers, all the DMRs, both shotguns, and the sword trying to find some HLG dude in the bases. We still killed him and made him go -38, but it wasn't as much fun as a straight up 4 on 4.

  • 01.12.2012 6:57 AM PDT

chances are I don't care who you are or what you say.

its always wrong to leave a game

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  • 01.12.2012 6:58 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Might, is a strong word.

People have been playing this game long enough to know how to determine what the hell is going to happen in a match.

You don't actually have to play out EVERY -blam!- MATCH this game tries to throw you in to know exactly how it is going to play out. OP was not in the wrong.

The 2 dumbasses that stayed, were in the wrong.
Because it's the 2 dumbasses that wasted the other teams time. Not the quitters.

See if EVERYONE on 1 side quits. You almost immediately go back out and start searching again. You get a free win and you waste maybe 1 minute of your life in the process.

But in this case, I'm sure they wasted upwards of 10 minutes just to play hide and seek with 2 people with NOTHING TO PROVE!

[Edited on 01.12.2012 7:02 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 6:59 AM PDT
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Doesn't it show the amount of people available within that party on the left hand side? I am positive they was in a party, they all had mics, they talked to each other like the best of friends and I was being bombarded by needle fire. I knew we wouldn't even last long in the first phase, so I just quit. I mean what difference would it make if all of us stayed, we wouldn't get very far. They overpowered us in about half of minute and I wasn't going to stay in so they can stat pad the hell out of us.

I don't know if I was right or wrong to quit which is why I asking you, the whole of Bungie.net.

I mean "Right" hand side, not "Left."

[Edited on 01.12.2012 7:06 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 7:01 AM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
Might, is a strong word.

People have been playing this game long enough to know how to determine what the hell is going to happen in a match.

You don't actually have to play out EVERY -blam!- MATCH this game tries to throw you in to know exactly how it is going to play out. OP was not in the wrong.

The 2 dumbasses that stayed, were in the wrong.
Because it's the 2 dumbasses that wasted the other teams time. Not the quitters.

See if EVERYONE on 1 side quits. You almost immediately go back out and start searching again. You get a free win and you waste maybe 1 minute of your life in the process.

But in this case, I'm sure they wasted upwards of 10 minutes just to play hide and seek with 2 people with NOTHING TO PROVE!


If it's so perfectly acceptable to quit, and you feel your time is being wasted in matches like this, why wouldn't YOU quit?

  • 01.12.2012 7:04 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

You were right to quit then.

I totally agree with the idea that a person can determine the outcome of a game within the first minute gameplay. And people should be allowed to make the decision to quit when they have come to the conclusion that they don't belong in the same match with the opposing team.

Your act of quitting is just filling the gap that Truskill leaves open. That full party team should thank you for your attempt to save them time..so they can search for another opposing full team.

You people talk about how you hate they way matchmaking matches based on skill. Yet you cry when people take it upon themselves to do something about it.

I'm not one to dish out 10 minute bans to people because they couldn't compete with me and my team. But apparently the rest of this community is that selfish.

[Edited on 01.12.2012 7:10 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 7:05 AM PDT
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I know some people would think I did this in spite, but I wasn't going to stay in to get humiliated, hell, people would think I'm an idiot if I stayed in and accepted this fate. I know what full parties are capable of and most, if not all of them would enjoy beating up a team of unorganized newbs.

I've dealt with full parties in the past, I had to suffer it because of this garbage search system that can't tell the difference between a solo player and a full party. I don't care if this is a team-oriented game, there are thousands of solo players out there that want to seek a challenge out against other similar skilled opponents, not full parties. As you tryhards would put it; Communication/Teamwork > Individual skill.

I would play Rumble Pit, but the state it's in, I'm not going to bother with it.

[Edited on 01.12.2012 7:20 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 7:18 AM PDT

I've played enough MM to know when you meet a full party, just quit, it's going to get ugly, real fast.

Sure sometimes your team of random call pull off a miracle, but that hardly ever happens.

  • 01.12.2012 7:25 AM PDT

well see you shouldnt always quit, in fact some games are better played when you have less team members, i mean one time i played invasion slayer on paradiso, when the game started we lost 4 teammates, so it became a 2 v. 6 and we were clearly outnumbered, and you wanna know what? we won 44 to 4!!! dont always quit, if you play smart (which is how i played that invasion game) you wont go super negative

  • 01.12.2012 8:39 AM PDT

lol that full party is terrible. Only really bad kids spawn kill against 1 or 2 players while everyone else has quit.
If I played them with a full team, they would probably quit out of the lobby.

  • 01.12.2012 8:57 AM PDT

the gun pointed at the head of the universe

I quit against parties I've lost to more than once that night. I'm patient, but I also believe in variety, ya know, because I enjoy it.

  • 01.12.2012 9:00 AM PDT

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You probably should not have. Had you been the only one left, maybe.

  • 01.12.2012 9:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nephilim713
You probably should not have. Had you been the only one left, maybe.
Believe me when I say this, but I don't quit unless I'm extremely laggy or the odds are against me, but other than that, I will stay and survive as long as possible.

Yesterday, I somehow faced 4 full party of players consecutively and it doesn't seem right for me or anyone else on my team because of this crap search system Reach utilizes.

I'm not saying they shouldn't play because of this unfair matchup, but the system in Reach is -blam!- garbage and extreme laziness on Bungie's end.

[Edited on 01.12.2012 9:48 AM PST]

  • 01.12.2012 9:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: Nephilim713
You probably should not have. Had you been the only one left, maybe.
Believe me when I say this, but I don't quit unless I'm extremely laggy or the odds are against me, but other than that, I will stay and survive as long as possible.

Yesterday, I somehow faced 4 full party of players consecutively and it doesn't seem right for me or anyone else on my team because of this crap search system Reach utilizes.

I'm not saying they shouldn't play because of this unfair matchup, but the system in Reach is -blam!- garbage and extreme laziness on Bungie's end.


Well, it was your 2nd account right? I do not think you should care too much about quitting.

  • 01.12.2012 10:13 AM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: MR E0S
They should have quit like everyone else.
It's not a matter of might not have gone. It is what it is.
And they chose to stay like a bunch of idiots. Trying to prove something.

Well, they certainly proved it.

I mean you people do realize that when it reaches a situation where your team quits..If you quit too. EVERYONE involved, is able to move on that much quicker.

If you choose to stay, YOU ARE IN FACT more of a problem than the actual quitters. And should be punished for it.

This will probably be the one and only time I ever agree with MR E0S.

Momentous occasion.

  • 01.12.2012 10:18 AM PDT