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Madara, Tobi....call me whatever you want. I'M NO ONE. I DON'T WANT TO BE ANYONE. ALL I CARE ABOUT IS COMPLETING THE MOON'S EYE PLAN."
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: qirahs
this is the overall theme i get from the books concerning the ancient humans, it sounds to me like the forerunner were arrogant, lived in homes miles across, possessed entire planets to themselvs (at least the builders), and lived indefinitely. Where as the humans were sort of the opposite.
Exactly. Forerunners wanted to control the entire Galaxy under the Falsehood of a "Mantle". Which i am sure they subconsciously knew wasn't true given The comments they had on Ancient man and other reasons.
Forthencho's comments and tactics in Primordium were so godly I Swear Greg must have gotten from "The Art of War" Itself.
My own ships swept back and forth hundreds of times across the star system, pushing back pinpoint orbital incursions before they could establish corridors of least energy dominance.
In all such battles, within the vast reaches of a stellar system, hyperspacial technologies give only a slight advantage; tactics in such close quarters depend on stable positions established near planetary objectives, where triangulations of fire can focus on mass-delivery portals and turn them into logjams of debris and destruction.
Occupation of vast reaches of space means nothing. It is control of population centers and essential resources that determines victory or defeat.
Anybody that has knowledge of advance military tactics or even an adept understand of the basic ones instantly had a mindgasm while reading that passage. It should that humans indeed had a better understanding when it came to battle; As they understood the battlefield and knew the appropriate tactics to use when the conditions called for it. While the forerunners just throw their biggest and most advanced ships into the fray expecting the job to be done.
Sun Tzu would have been proud or rather, Forthencho would have been proud of him.
Now for the planetary statement
The dream-emotions conveyed by the Lord of Admirals felt sharp and raw, like the waft from a freshly slaughtered animal . . . strange juxtapositions of pain and pleasure, hidden fear and anticipation, a glowing spark of battle-rage kept from flaringheld in reserve.
For these dreams spoke of leave-taking and farewell, of the last night before a grand battle that would spread across a hundred thousand light-years to determine the fate of a thousand suns and twenty thousand worlds.
I cannot express how important this passages are. They show that humans understood management and efficiency. They didn't just colonize every single planet the came across just to show how powerful they are and to feed their gluttonous population.
They colonized a number of planets and micro-managed the hell out of them to the point they had a relatively small empire that rivaled the forerunners, which themselves stated was impressive.
They understood that numbers aren't everything nor is being able to make mile long houses that you hardly venture in. They are honestly superior to the forerunners in every philosophical and practical way.
I would say the Forerunners have Technology and Strength While the Humans Have The Smarts and understanding. Especially since Cryptum Gave the vibe that Forerunner tech is based off the Precursors, with them finding all their technology all over the place. While the Didact was shocked at the humans pushing through Precursor tech, he wasn't shocked at the use of it.
wow. . . i really have to finish primordium now, forthencho is shaping up to be even better than i thought.
So it's exactly as i previously thought, the humans were superior to the forerunner for that exact reason, as you said they were masters of logistics and efficiency. Despite having what i remember from cryptum, a few hundred worlds compared the forerunner's 3 million, they still managed to take the forerunner and the flood on all at once. Using pure brain power alone, they gave the forerunner a run for their money, and with more than 1/3 of their population already sacrificed (in vain apparently) for the flood.
Further more, i believe the battle for charum hakkor speaks for itself, humans centered on one measly planet, harnessing precursor technology that they managed to crack and incorporate held off the full forerunner naval might for over 50 years.
Forthencho really sounds awesome, im sure not even preston cole would compare. . .