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Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update # 3*

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Reasons for speculation:
1.) No data code streaming on her body-We have always seen Cortana with code flowing through her body.
2.) Dr.Hasley has been missing since the First Strike-For those of you who have read the books you would know two things, Dr.Hasley left with Kelly claiming she was doing something increadibly important and two, Cortana was modeled completely off of Hasley. I think shes back to help MC with whatever challenge he has to face. She says she knows him, his past, and his future because she trained the MC and the other spartans since they were kids. She knows his future from my friend Opogs theory on what Dr.Hasley was doing or has done.
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I have more and I'll update when I get home.


Upadte #1:
Posted by: staphan
In the Announcement FAQ section of Halo 3, it says:

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots..."

and:

"Q

What is the plot of Halo 3?

A

The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind."

so therefore I doubt that it's Dr. Halsey in the trailer.


It says Cortana in some shape or form. This leads me to believe that Bungie may not want to admit it is Dr.Hasley. Remember that Cortana is modeled off of Hasley so by saying Cortana is some OTHER shape or form just means Cortana in her other form, her parent form Dr.Hasley.

Update#2: An interesting Thought from a friend-
"Dude it all makes sense if you watch the trailer from 1:03 to 1:15 you can see flashes of light in the top right corner (your left) of Johns visor, it was said that in the books the spartans would communicate using their HUD's thus causing a flashing light in their visor, put that together with your theory that it's not cortona and that it's hasley who left with another spartan and bam there u go Dr. hasley brought kelly to help john those flashes are from john and kelly communicating."

Update #3: A convo between myself and an anonymous user:

"In relation to your update number two--

there is lightning flashing, there is no light flashing INSIDE john;s helmet, its LIGHTING FROM TEH VORTEX...

Please put this under that unpade number two, it makes no sense to be able to see whast going on INSIDE his helmet...

Think of it, MC is in a dark room stalking an Elite, then, as Linda flashes her light to MC to tell him she will take him out, BAM the elite sees the flicker behind him from that light inside MC's head and kills him



Cmon, this is the 26th century, i htink they have found out how to make Combat Visors Opaque by now..."

I will if we debate a little more. Now, true it would not show on the outside but perhaps this was given to us by Bungie no? Also it is probably not lightning for these reasons:
1.) He turns his head before the banshees noise can be heard indicating that he looked over because of the light flahing in his visor. These lights were used as comunication and they always appeared in the top right of the helmet.
2.) The way the light flahes on the visor is much different than the previous flah. There is a flash maybe a second or two before the alleged visor flash and it appears vertically, meaning something standing upright or in an upright position. When lightning strikes it travels the fastest way to the ground and in the most vertical way possible, therefore the next lightning in the same area would travel vertically. The light flah on the Mc's visor is a horizontal flash indicating that is it most likey NOT lightning. See? I will post up over conversation though so people may interpret. Really though its visible because Bungie doesn't not want to show what the HUD is going to look like...yet.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 11:52 AM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...
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Exactly what I was thinking.

  • 05.13.2006 11:53 AM PDT
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If "Dr Hasley" was missing since First Strike,she wouldn't know everything about Master Chief's past and future would she?

(The words Cortana (Or if you happen to be correct Dr Hasley says, "I know your past, your future".)

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and there IS some coding, just barely visible unless you freeze frame at certain frames.

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If "Dr Hasley" was missing since First Strike,she wouldn't know everything about Master Chief's past and future would she?

(The words Cortana (Or if you happen to be correct Dr Hasley says, "I know your past, your future".)

Past yes because shes known him his whole life, future from whatever she set out to do.

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That is the first theory that I have read that isn't completely bizarre or stupid...

But...I don't think the good Dr. is Purple in color..if Cortana is modeled after the Dr., then Cortana would have been programmed with all of the knowledge of the Dr.

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Posted by: ViperGTSR3g
and there IS some coding, just barely visible unless you freeze frame at certain frames.

True but no where near what Cortana normally has opr should have. I think its a transmission and that why she appears blue with some code around her.

  • 05.13.2006 11:57 AM PDT

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no she started the whole spartans thing. she picked each child out her self, she knows MC's whole past. she even made his suit. also listen to cortana in halo 2 and this trailer its not the same voice.

u may have something big....

  • 05.13.2006 11:57 AM PDT
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In the Announcement FAQ section of Halo 3, it says:

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots..."

and:

"Q

What is the plot of Halo 3?

A

The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind."

so therefore I doubt that it's Dr. Halsey in the trailer.

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i wish someone would check the voice tho. it sound different

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Yes, I posted this atleast three days ago but no one cared >(

Look at the part when she says the "I" of I am your sword (55 seconds). I think bungie is trying to confuse us by mixing Dr. Halsey and Cortana. The first one was cortana (30), the second was Halsey (55) and then it became Cortana again.

  • 05.13.2006 12:00 PM PDT

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cortan is not dr halsley, and




POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT FOR HALO3 GAME!











cortana betrays you in the end of halo2 where she insists on getting left behind on the structure. rember right before it changes scenes from that part when the gravemind comes through the door, and seems to be welcoming it back? well the gravemind is the originator of he flood, and can take many forms to survive, in this case captain keyes from halo 1. Remeber keyes from halo 1 where u punch his face out for the neural implants? yep thats the gravemind. and cortana led the flood to earth causing the covenant to come to (the covenenants main mission was to destroy the flood) so the coveneant make contact with earth relizing that it is the home planet of the humans causing a huge war because of some misunderstanding before the game halo 1. (the covenant are not attacking the humans because they feel like it, its because we attacked them first long ago)

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Dr Halsey probably isn't blue, plus you can see those markings(not the code streams) Cortana has on her neck area in the trailer.

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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

Cortona's personality is modeled after Halsey, not her appearence. And Halsey's in her late 50's/early 60's. I don't think she looks like that...

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Posted by: staphan
In the Announcement FAQ section of Halo 3, it says:

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots..."

and:

"Q

What is the plot of Halo 3?

A

The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind."

so therefore I doubt that it's Dr. Halsey in the trailer.


It says Cortana in some shape or form. This leads me to believe that Bungie may not want to admit it is Dr.Hasley. Remember that Cortana is modeled off of Hasley so by saying Cortana is some OTHER shape or form just means Cortana in her other form, her parent form Dr.Hasley.

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pretty bright but frankie stated it was Cortana and the chief only in this video. But what you said makes sense

  • 05.13.2006 12:03 PM PDT

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Cortona's personality is modeled after Halsey, not her appearence. And Halsey's in her late 50's/early 60's. I don't think she looks like that...


Unless there is a fountain of youth, and the Spanish got owned when they tried to find it...

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Posted by: Xx AeonPsych xX
cortan is not dr halsley, and




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cortana betrays you in the end of halo2 where she insists on getting left behind on the structure. rember right before it changes scenes from that part when the gravemind comes through the door, and seems to be welcoming it back? well the gravemind is the originator of he flood, and can take many forms to survive, in this case captain keyes from halo 1. Remeber keyes from halo 1 where u punch his face out for the neural implants? yep thats the gravemind. and cortana led the flood to earth causing the covenant to come to (the covenenants main mission was to destroy the flood) so the coveneant make contact with earth relizing that it is the home planet of the humans causing a huge war because of some misunderstanding before the game halo 1. (the covenant are not attacking the humans because they feel like it, its because we attacked them first long ago)

LOL... thats not true.

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I think ur reading way to much into the trailer?We have no reason to believe that she is Dr hansley+she is middle aged while the cotana/hansley in the trailer is oviosly not?

demon swordz

The grave mind on delta halo says that its bin there for century(well he dosent say it exactly but u get the impression)so the thing on the ship on halo CE cant be gravemind?

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Past yes because shes known him his whole life, future from whatever she set out to do.

"Dr Hasley" wasn't there during the time the covenant come to earth and Halo 1 started, she still wasn't there when Halo 2 ended, so she does not know his whole past.

  • 05.13.2006 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xx AeonPsych xX
cortan is not dr halsley, and




POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT FOR HALO3 GAME!











cortana betrays you in the end of halo2 where she insists on getting left behind on the structure. rember right before it changes scenes from that part when the gravemind comes through the door, and seems to be welcoming it back? well the gravemind is the originator of he flood, and can take many forms to survive, in this case captain keyes from halo 1. Remeber keyes from halo 1 where u punch his face out for the neural implants? yep thats the gravemind. and cortana led the flood to earth causing the covenant to come to (the covenenants main mission was to destroy the flood) so the coveneant make contact with earth relizing that it is the home planet of the humans causing a huge war because of some misunderstanding before the game halo 1. (the covenant are not attacking the humans because they feel like it, its because we attacked them first long ago)

LOL... thats not true.


OMG...that has to be the least likely correct theory ever...

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If they said "Dr. Halsey in some shape or form" I would believe that they meant Cortana, but it is the other way around and it's not very likely that Dr. Halsey is "some shape or form" of Cortana; rather is Cortana some shape or form of Halsey.

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Yes, I posted this atleast three days ago but no one cared >(

Look at the part when she says the "I" of I am your sword (55 seconds). I think bungie is trying to confuse us by mixing Dr. Halsey and Cortana. The first one was cortana (30), the second was Halsey (55) and then it became Cortana again.


at 55 seconds is really the first time we can see her face claerly, the comaprison should be between that 55 sec shot and then later when she is covering the MC, if someone could make a side by side shot it would help.

  • 05.13.2006 12:14 PM PDT

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Anywas this is futile, I remember hearing that the books and the games were completely different...and if you look on the books it will say something to the effect of

"These are the Authors own ideas..."

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Posted by: staphan
If they said "Dr. Halsey in some shape or form" I would believe that they meant Cortana, but it is the other way around and it's not very likely that Dr. Halsey is "some shape or form" of Cortana; rather is Cortana some shape or form of Halsey.
Lol that was phrased oddly but I get you. Besides if you can believe one way why not another?

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