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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

To rain on your parade...those flashes are lightning, and communicating using a helmet doesn't make a flash.

  • 05.13.2006 12:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkness Howls
To rain on your parade...those flashes are lightning, and communicating using a helmet doesn't make a flash.
Actually in the books the Spartans used a flash in the HUD to comunicate quietly. also if it was lighting it would NOT have flash HORIZONTALLY like in the trailer it would have flashed VERTICALLY.
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  • 05.13.2006 12:18 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...
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No, the covenent attacked humans first. When we first encounted them this is the messaged they sent. The gods wish you to be dead, we are their tools.

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Posted by: H A LO2153
No, the covenent attacked humans first. When we first encounted them this is the messaged they sent. The gods wish you to be dead, we are their tools.


Huh? Where did that come from?

  • 05.13.2006 12:25 PM PDT

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for those of you saying that the theory i have is the least likeyl thing ever READ THE FRIKKEN HALO 3 SCRIPt and yes it makes more sense if you read the whole thing

twords the bottom of the scrip it has cortana betraying master chief, the gravemind which corners master chief and saying rember me? and then the scrip says


Flashback: (and here is the part where it reveals the gravemind being captain keyes)

  • 05.13.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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Frankie said it was Cortana, Bill Gates said it was Cortana, the Christ Child himself said so too, stop speculating.

  • 05.13.2006 12:59 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update #2*
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Posted by: MasterBawney121
Reasons for speculation:
1.) No data code streaming on her body-We have always seen Cortana with code flowing through her body.
2.) Dr.Hasley has been missing since the First Strike-For those of you who have read the books you would know two things, Dr.Hasley left with Kelly claiming she was doing something increadibly important and two, Cortana was modeled completely off of Hasley. I think shes back to help MC with whatever challenge he has to face. She says she knows him, his past, and his future because she trained the MC and the other spartans since they were kids. She knows his future from my friend Opogs theory on what Dr.Hasley was doing or has done.
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I have more and I'll update when I get home.


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Posted by: staphan
In the Announcement FAQ section of Halo 3, it says:

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots..."

and:

"Q

What is the plot of Halo 3?

A

The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind."

so therefore I doubt that it's Dr. Halsey in the trailer.


It says Cortana in some shape or form. This leads me to believe that Bungie may not want to admit it is Dr.Hasley. Remember that Cortana is modeled off of Hasley so by saying Cortana is some OTHER shape or form just means Cortana in her other form, her parent form Dr.Hasley.

Update#2: An interesting Thought from a friend-
"Dude it all makes sense if you watch the trailer from 1:03 to 1:15 you can see flashes of light in the top right corner (your left) of Johns visor, it was said that in the books the spartans would communicate using their HUD's thus causing a flashing light in their visor, put that together with your theory that it's not cortona and that it's hasley who left with another spartan and bam there u go Dr. hasley brought kelly to help john those flashes are from john and kelly communicating."


lol, i'm kinda slow so i just made the connection of the line "In know you, YOUR PAST, your future"..... it's dr. hasley... 90% sure...

teehee, i feel all tingly inside ^_^

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 1:01 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...

no, its cortana. hasley isnt purple and computerised. besides, cortana also knows the chief's past, its not exclusive to hasley.

  • 05.13.2006 1:03 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update #2*
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  • 05.13.2006 1:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: DremolitoX
no, its cortana. hasley isnt purple and computerised. besides, cortana also knows the chief's past, its not exclusive to hasley.

That too. Hasley will not make an appearance in Halo 3 I bet. For that matter, no book-related character will. They did not with Halo 2, and everyone was so damn sure they would too.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

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sorry to ruin the idea, but i played halo this morning and Heasly has several distinctive moles on her face, whereas Cortanas is clear, because she was made to be perfect. Plus i zoomed in on her demented face on the gravemind level where she says "put me down on the pedestal over there" the face on the trailer definatly is exactly the same as cortanas on the game, sorry, the fact it lacks the data streams is just improvment of graphics

  • 05.13.2006 1:10 PM PDT
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You never see Dr. Halsey in the Halo games you nut.

and for the people that think Cortana and Dr. Halsey don't look the same, go read the books. Each AI takes form after something they relate to. Cortana decided to go with her creator(Dr.Halsey)'s appearance.

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  • 05.13.2006 1:15 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update #2*

It's Cortana, not Dr. Hasley. If u don't believe me, stop the video somewhere between 1:05 and 1:07. And look at the neck of the person shown. You will see the coding lines.

  • 05.13.2006 1:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xx AeonPsych xX
for those of you saying that the theory i have is the least likeyl thing ever READ THE FRIKKEN HALO 3 SCRIPt and yes it makes more sense if you read the whole thing

twords the bottom of the scrip it has cortana betraying master chief, the gravemind which corners master chief and saying rember me? and then the scrip says


Flashback: (and here is the part where it reveals the gravemind being captain keyes)


The Halo 3 script huh? Let me guess, your best friend's uncle's roommate knows a guy that works at Bungie. The Covenant's main mission isn't to destroy the flood, it's to go on the Great Journey. Even people who haven't read the fabled "Halo 3 script" know that. Good try though, but I think you should go play pretend somewhere else.

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Posted by: Xx AeonPsych xX
for those of you saying that the theory i have is the least likeyl thing ever READ THE FRIKKEN HALO 3 SCRIPt and yes it makes more sense if you read the whole thing

twords the bottom of the scrip it has cortana betraying master chief, the gravemind which corners master chief and saying rember me? and then the scrip says


Flashback: (and here is the part where it reveals the gravemind being captain keyes)



i'll digress a bit....but wasn't keyes on the ship on the halo that you blew up in halo CE? u come across gravemind on an completly different ring. correct me if im wrong but what you're saying makes no sense. also, that halo 3 script was fake, and quite horrible. If you somehow have a copy via sneaking into bungie ninja style and stealing a copy, then i apologize and will accept the fact that i am wrong.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

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very good theory. Cortana is basically a computerized clone of Dr. Halsey (i've alway's prounced her as Dr. Hazley in my mind, dont ask y). And she knows johns past, and mabye on her mission with kelly she learned sum future. Or mabye she can go in the future with that time warping crystal. Its possible.

  • 05.13.2006 1:35 PM PDT
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very good theory. Cortana is basically a computerized clone of Dr. Halsey (i've alway's prounced her as Dr. Hazley in my mind, dont ask y). And she knows johns past, and mabye on her mission with kelly she learned sum future. Or mabye she can go in the future with that time warping crystal. Its possible.

Not a good theory, Bungie said it was Cortana, so...bad theory.

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Posted by: DremolitoX
no, its cortana. hasley isnt purple and computerised. besides, cortana also knows the chief's past, its not exclusive to hasley.

That too. Hasley will not make an appearance in Halo 3 I bet. For that matter, no book-related character will. They did not with Halo 2, and everyone was so damn sure they would too.

Actually characters from the book make an appearance in Halo 1 so...

I'll try to respond to most peoples posts but theres a lot so I'll try to keep up.

  • 05.13.2006 1:43 PM PDT
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Last we saw of Dr. Halsey, her and a Kelly were warped into slipstream space with the weird crystal the cheif has recovered.. We have no clue where they ended up. However, WE might see more of EVERYONE in the new Halo book.

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Anywas this is futile, I remember hearing that the books and the games were completely different...and if you look on the books it will say something to the effect of

"These are the Authors own ideas..."


No... I think it was on the Halo 2 (special edition) DVD that they said that the books were written from the "halo folder" or something like that. They said that it was a folder that had the entire story in note form that the authors used to accuratly portray hte story. So the story in the books is actuality.

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Posted by: Johiden
Last we saw of Dr. Halsey, her and a Kelly were warped into slipstream space with the weird crystal the cheif has recovered.. We have no clue where they ended up. However, WE might see more of EVERYONE in the new Halo book.

Thats not true, we saw her in Halo 2. PM me for details, anyone else who wants to know where we saqw her may PM me as well.

  • 05.13.2006 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Numm
Dr Halsey probably isn't blue, plus you can see those markings(not the code streams) Cortana has on her neck area in the trailer.

i agree, just because it'd a transmission doesn't mean the person turns blue. im sure they've mastered video transmissions at this point.

also, data lines wouldn't appear IN cortana (or whoever it is) if it were from transmission corruption, there wouldn't be data lines, just static. which there is plenty of.

i think its cortana, but a changed cortana.

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Posted by: Numm
Dr Halsey probably isn't blue, plus you can see those markings(not the code streams) Cortana has on her neck area in the trailer.

i agree, just because it'd a transmission doesn't mean the person turns blue. im sure they've mastered video transmissions at this point.

also, data lines wouldn't appear IN cortana (or whoever it is) if it were from transmission corruption, there wouldn't be data lines, just static. which there is plenty of.

i think its cortana, but a changed cortana.
Its part of a transmission and it is not the only one with blue siloettes. In halo 2 both the prophets of the covenant and the Admiral of the MAC cannons appears blue in transmissions.

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Hmmm.. Dr. Halsey.. details... Where in H2?

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I think It's Halsey. In the trailer she says "I am your shield, your sword"(according to the Bungie team). However, she seems to say "I am your shield, your source". Halsey made John into what he is today, Spartan 113. She discovered him and is his "source".

  • 05.13.2006 2:15 PM PDT