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bungie said its cortana, therefore it is.

  • 05.13.2006 3:43 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...
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Posted by: NLANE1284
MC is somewhere between mid 20s and mid 30s in age now.


Actually the MC is 41 during the events of Halo.

  • 05.13.2006 3:48 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update # 3*
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Posted by: gorrilaismynm
bungie said its cortana, therefore it is.

They also said they were making Pimps at Sea.

  • 05.13.2006 3:49 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...

Posted by: MasterBawney121
Posted by: I know I know
After she says sword, she repeats sword in a whisper. Thats why everyone is debating over it. Use headphones when watching the trailer and u will see.

I do not deny it I believe you, but what is the relavence of her saying it wice or even any importance?

I think Bungie made the "message" shes sending seem likes its been tarnished or its at a low frequency so its all choppy or its like a final message to the chief because she knows shes about to die.

  • 05.13.2006 3:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yggdrasil
Posted by: NLANE1284
MC is somewhere between mid 20s and mid 30s in age now.


Actually the MC is 41 during the events of Halo.


Thanks. I just threw out a number to make my point about Dr. Halsley being older. In the back of my mind I thought I had remembered him being that old or at least fairly old as well, but I wasn't sure. So if he's 41, that means Dr. Halsley is in her 60s to 70s, which helps my point even more. Thanks again for the correction.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 4:05 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update # 3*
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Posted by: overtime43
Posted by: gorrilaismynm
bungie said its cortana, therefore it is.

They also said they were making Pimps at Sea.


And then they said it was an April Fool's Joke.

  • 05.13.2006 4:16 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...
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Just to clear something up, Cortana looked at a picture of Dr.Halsey when she was MUCH younger and took that form, that is why Cortana doesn't look old. If you don't believe, read the first book.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 4:34 PM PDT
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but even if it is Halsey, it still doesn't exoplain why parts of the face are missing

  • 05.13.2006 4:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cossack
i havent read the books but i played the games and i rekon there r more people like me who dont have a clue who the doctor is so i dont realy think he'd be in halo 3 4 that reason.


First off, Dr. Halsey is a "she"...


But I agree with many of the statements, throwing Dr. Halsey into the story this late in the game would throw alot of people for a loop, unless, as I have suggested in the past, the game be filled with mainly flashback cutscenes to when John was a kid... and through Forerunner Tech to when the Forerunner Empire flourished. If you remember the flashback to the fall of Reach in halo 2 that was awesome!

Afterall I think that the Chief is going to finaly realize all that has transpired and "pull the trigger on the Universe" himself... once everything is devestated and he knows that there is nothing left.

  • 05.13.2006 8:42 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update # 3*

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youre hella right because it was dr. hasley that chose john and watched him as he grew and john was always here favorite spartan

  • 05.13.2006 8:53 PM PDT
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Cortana is an exact replica of Dr. Halsey's brain, even down to emotional characteristics. She is in every way the same as Halsey, that is at the time Cortana was made. Not to mention, Dr. Halsey would never communicate with John in that manner. In no way has Halsey defied gods and demons or proven she is MC's shield and sword. This and the fact Bungie states it is Cortana explicitly means it is Cortana.

  • 05.13.2006 8:57 PM PDT
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They explicitly said it was Cortana?

Funny, I don't remember that.

Look back at the previous theories, such as the time travel one. While it is far fetched, it clues in. Two Betrayals, yet it is really only one. Why? Because it happened twice. John remembers exactly what button to press to activate the light bridge. How? Instinctively, according to the books. Why? Because he's done it before.

Listen to some of the dialog clips from Cortana in Halo 2. Her voice sounds so much more strained, so much sassier. If I betrayed a SPARTAN, I wouldn't talk to him in such a soft tone like that. Plus, Cortana doesn't know Master Chief's past. She was created later on. Dr. Halsey had a "dumb" AI during the SPARTAN-II projects, if I remember.

Dr. Halsey defied gods, she turned her back on every SPARTAN and human alive. Note how the word "demon" sounds. It's two audio pieces layered, you can hear the voice of an elite in the background. Master Chief is the "demon", if I can recall, so she would have defied him.

Cortana isn't Master Chief's sword right now, and for darn sure isn't his shield.

Plus, look at the way the transmission is static and then gets clearer. That would sound relative to a transmission being tuned in from another part of space, wouldn't it?


It's Dr. Halsey, and if you can prove wrong I'll gladly listen.

  • 05.13.2006 9:04 PM PDT
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That's both right and wrong. Because Cortona is a clone to Dr. Hasly. So pritty much, a clone of Dr. Hasly has been with the story sence the end of the 1st. book

  • 05.13.2006 9:08 PM PDT
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i didnt read the whole entire thread, so please forgive if its been said, but why the hell would dr. halsey be purple?

  • 05.13.2006 9:08 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation/Theory: Thats not Cortana, its Dr.Hasley...*Update # 3*
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Posted by: MasterBawney121
Reasons for speculation:
1.) No data code streaming on her body-We have always seen Cortana with code flowing through her body.
2.) Dr.Hasley has been missing since the First Strike-For those of you who have read the books you would know two things, Dr.Hasley left with Kelly claiming she was doing something increadibly important and two, Cortana was modeled completely off of Hasley. I think shes back to help MC with whatever challenge he has to face. She says she knows him, his past, and his future because she trained the MC and the other spartans since they were kids. She knows his future from my friend Opogs theory on what Dr.Hasley was doing or has done.
3

I have more and I'll update when I get home.


Upadte #1:
Posted by: staphan
In the Announcement FAQ section of Halo 3, it says:

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots..."

and:

"Q

What is the plot of Halo 3?

A

The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind."

so therefore I doubt that it's Dr. Halsey in the trailer.


It says Cortana in some shape or form. This leads me to believe that Bungie may not want to admit it is Dr.Hasley. Remember that Cortana is modeled off of Hasley so by saying Cortana is some OTHER shape or form just means Cortana in her other form, her parent form Dr.Hasley.

Update#2: An interesting Thought from a friend-
"Dude it all makes sense if you watch the trailer from 1:03 to 1:15 you can see flashes of light in the top right corner (your left) of Johns visor, it was said that in the books the spartans would communicate using their HUD's thus causing a flashing light in their visor, put that together with your theory that it's not cortona and that it's hasley who left with another spartan and bam there u go Dr. hasley brought kelly to help john those flashes are from john and kelly communicating."

Update #3: A convo between myself and an anonymous user:

"In relation to your update number two--

there is lightning flashing, there is no light flashing INSIDE john;s helmet, its LIGHTING FROM TEH VORTEX...

Please put this under that unpade number two, it makes no sense to be able to see whast going on INSIDE his helmet...

Think of it, MC is in a dark room stalking an Elite, then, as Linda flashes her light to MC to tell him she will take him out, BAM the elite sees the flicker behind him from that light inside MC's head and kills him



Cmon, this is the 26th century, i htink they have found out how to make Combat Visors Opaque by now..."

I will if we debate a little more. Now, true it would not show on the outside but perhaps this was given to us by Bungie no? Also it is probably not lightning for these reasons:
1.) He turns his head before the banshees noise can be heard indicating that he looked over because of the light flahing in his visor. These lights were used as comunication and they always appeared in the top right of the helmet.
2.) The way the light flahes on the visor is much different than the previous flah. There is a flash maybe a second or two before the alleged visor flash and it appears vertically, meaning something standing upright or in an upright position. When lightning strikes it travels the fastest way to the ground and in the most vertical way possible, therefore the next lightning in the same area would travel vertically. The light flah on the Mc's visor is a horizontal flash indicating that is it most likey NOT lightning. See? I will post up over conversation though so people may interpret. Really though its visible because Bungie doesn't not want to show what the HUD is going to look like...yet.

yea but you missed one other thing
the lightning flashes are blue.
i do believe the flash youre refering to is yellow

  • 05.13.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xtreme Spartan
They explicitly said it was Cortana?

Funny, I don't remember that.

Look back at the previous theories, such as the time travel one. While it is far fetched, it clues in. Two Betrayals, yet it is really only one. Why? Because it happened twice. John remembers exactly what button to press to activate the light bridge. How? Instinctively, according to the books. Why? Because he's done it before.

Listen to some of the dialog clips from Cortana in Halo 2. Her voice sounds so much more strained, so much sassier. If I betrayed a SPARTAN, I wouldn't talk to him in such a soft tone like that. Plus, Cortana doesn't know Master Chief's past. She was created later on. Dr. Halsey had a "dumb" AI during the SPARTAN-II projects, if I remember.

Dr. Halsey defied gods, she turned her back on every SPARTAN and human alive. Note how the word "demon" sounds. It's two audio pieces layered, you can hear the voice of an elite in the background. Master Chief is the "demon", if I can recall, so she would have defied him.

Cortana isn't Master Chief's sword right now, and for darn sure isn't his shield.

Plus, look at the way the transmission is static and then gets clearer. That would sound relative to a transmission being tuned in from another part of space, wouldn't it?


It's Dr. Halsey, and if you can prove wrong I'll gladly listen.

and no
i believe there pieces of SEPERATE transmisions he heard earlier
because one doesn't walk towards a giant crater with an organised team of ships and THEN get told what there doing
you know
and i believe that as cortana got better at manipulating gravemind and the halo comm. system
she could talk without his influence and clearer
hence each quote is easier to understand
think about it

  • 05.13.2006 9:14 PM PDT
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and *points up*
notice demons is plural
i believe its more symbolic than a literal reference
in other words
the "demons" arent him

  • 05.13.2006 9:17 PM PDT
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How on earth can you ppl notese these absolutely microscopic details just by watching the one trailer. Yes it was probly more than 10 times yes. But still. HOW!

  • 05.13.2006 9:19 PM PDT
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ive heard someone say that i am youre sheild and sword is gravemind trying to instill fear in the cheif
this is VERY plausible

  • 05.13.2006 9:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Killgore
How on earth can you ppl notese these absolutely microscopic details just by watching the one trailer. Yes it was probly more than 10 times yes. But still. HOW!

youve NEVER heard of a hardcore halo fan???????????????
im amazed
well welcome
(your surrounded by us)

  • 05.13.2006 9:22 PM PDT
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unless dr. hasley has the chronic purple-itas disease that millions develop year round, i would have to say its cortana...

  • 05.13.2006 9:25 PM PDT
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Yes I've heared of them, and I've played some hardcore ones online (for pc). And thx for the welcom.

  • 05.13.2006 9:25 PM PDT
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well yea
i dont think its her
but really
if she was using that method of communication maybe she has to appear purple
because thats how the holo thingy works
notice how all the holos in the games are either the bluey or purpley colors?

  • 05.13.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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notice i said MAYBE
lol
and by her i meant Dr. Hasley

  • 05.13.2006 9:28 PM PDT
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Doesn't anyone read the Halo book series?

I have read the Halo book series over fifty times(yes, i keep track). After, I read them the last time, I fiqured out alot of stuff about all the characters in the Halo games and the Halo books have a connection and that Cortana had started falling apart after the first halo game, if you have read the books she has problem caculating numbers and has trouble fiquring out stuff. In the trailor you see Cortana with missing parts of her body, she could be falling apart because of all the information she has contained or copied to here memory core.

  • 05.13.2006 9:29 PM PDT