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Posted by: rollerx45
The point is that zero bloom makes you spam shots without regard to how accurate your are.

No. you still have to be able to aim. It's just that the slow movement speed, another thing wrong with Reach, makes that easy.
People complained about how they can't kill because they are inaccurate and therefore are unable to just judge distance and timing.
No again. They complained because bloom makes you miss while you are aiming right on them.
Zero bloom says hey dont worry about that, shoot all you want, as long as the reticule is on their head, that's skill.
Yeah actually that is skill. That's what
EVERY HALO GAME BEFORE REACH WAS
and now you don't have enough time to get to cover because even though im a supersoldier from the future, I can't run fast enough to avoid a barrage of spammed shots.
Blame slow movement speed for that not ZB.
It simply takes away you having to judge how accurate you are and caters to noobs.
Noobs couldn't aim in Halo CE, Halo 2, or Halo 3 so no. It definitely doesn't do that.
I'm sorry, I need a game with a bit more competitiveness, instead of one that just feels sorry for people who can't think enough to play the game how it was intended upon release.
Play Halo 3 or Reach MLG where movement speed isn't a problem. then. Default Reach is for casuals who can't aim.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 9:52 AM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 9:52 AM PDT


Posted by: cs burchie v2
Reach is taking steps in the right direction, not our fault you suck at it.


Reach no longer has it's original game developers, majority of players like the idea of not having to worry about how accurate and how much damage they do despite distance. Reach punishes you because you quit a game that was completely unfair, or you had to run to go do something IN THE REAL WORLD. Reach is no longer reach, and they market things so that you pretty much have to buy them if you want to play certain playlist. It's not my fault you lack the knowledge to understand what's really going on. Who are you to say I suck? lol, have I played you before? Think not, have you looked at my stats? I think not. Ever heard of the saying you can't judge a book by its cover. Halo isn't Halo anymore, it's just a shell of it's former self. If anyone is smart enough by the time the next one comes out and it still is the same crap, watch the sales decline. It's just like anything else, something does good, and then you market the hell out of it and butcher it until is nothing what it used to be.

  • 01.13.2012 9:52 AM PDT

hey op did you ever consider that maybe people arent spamming?
and are just actually are better than u?
idk just shot in the dark

  • 01.13.2012 9:52 AM PDT

Salute me. Or... or, you know, stuff.

rollerx45, perhaps you ought to consider this before you start running your mouth about your college major, as if that qualifies you to speak on the subject any more than I do.

Use your brain. Think about it statistically, logically, mathematically. It's no secret. We've had countless threads on here over the years laying out the specifics as to why bloom is mathematically less competitive than no bloom. Do you not understand why that is? It's not a matter of pacing shots.

Bloom randomizes your shot. It doesn't matter if you aim for the head, if your bloom is increased, your bullet strikes in a random place. It makes the game a lottery. You can try your best to weasel out of this logic as best you can, but it'll only be useless rhetoric. The bullet doesn't always hit where you want it to with bloom, whether your bloom is as maximum or a second from collapsing, it's an unreliable system. You may pace your shots and pray it all works out - it does sometimes, for sure - but the ratio of failure is why the fans are clamoring for this title update.

Now yes, without bloom it becomes a spam contest, but you know what's great about that? Skill is a much more prominent factor. It's about who shoots fastest with the most accuracy, as opposed to who gets the luckiest with their bullets.

And please, don't try to decry fans saying "this TU is Halo" by saying "But THIS is Halo REACH". If Halo is in the title, that's what true fans - real veterans - want. We want Halo. Go play a game called "Reach" somewhere else and leave this community.

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hey op did you ever consider that maybe people arent spamming?
and are just actually are better than u?
idk just shot in the dark

ONLY WAY YOU COULD HIT HIM IN THE DARK IS BY SPAMMING!1!!!11eleven!

  • 01.13.2012 9:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: cs burchie v2
Reach is taking steps in the right direction, not our fault you suck at it.


Reach no longer has it's original game developers, majority of players like the idea of not having to worry about how accurate and how much damage they do despite distance. Reach punishes you because you quit a game that was completely unfair, or you had to run to go do something IN THE REAL WORLD. Reach is no longer reach, and they market things so that you pretty much have to buy them if you want to play certain playlist. It's not my fault you lack the knowledge to understand what's really going on. Who are you to say I suck? lol, have I played you before? Think not, have you looked at my stats? I think not. Ever heard of the saying you can't judge a book by its cover. Halo isn't Halo anymore, it's just a shell of it's former self. If anyone is smart enough by the time the next one comes out and it still is the same crap, watch the sales decline. It's just like anything else, something does good, and then you market the hell out of it and butcher it until is nothing what it used to be.


Maybe it's time you move one from Halo then... bye! (Majority of players don't care about accuracy!? I'm a casual player through and through... my stats speak volumes in that regard but I will ALWAYS prefer a weapon for the right situation that gets the job done... not just spraying bullets randomly).

  • 01.13.2012 9:55 AM PDT

lol these forums are garbage like for real. what is this? did halo catch an STD or something? oh sorry, that's just a product of a bunch of ignorant fanboys. What happened to you Bungie? oh yeah that is right, you sold out and got screwed in the process, only to save a small number of important team members to join 343.. These forums are like a red-headed stepchild.

  • 01.13.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: DBD AceRay96
people please, it's just a game...no need to pop a blood vessel or go into cardiac arrest. everyone has their own opinions and they should be respected; people who don't are the reasons wars start


respect is only for those who support the true way a Halo game should be. Anyone who doesn't like the original halo Trilogy gameplay and would rather have derp reach and all it's fallacies should be shunned for all eternity.

They deserve the greatest amount of disrespect for the heresy they speak.

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Posted by: cs burchie v2
Reach is taking steps in the right direction, not our fault you suck at it.


Reach no longer has it's original game developers, majority of players like the idea of not having to worry about how accurate and how much damage they do despite distance. Reach punishes you because you quit a game that was completely unfair, or you had to run to go do something IN THE REAL WORLD. Reach is no longer reach, and they market things so that you pretty much have to buy them if you want to play certain playlist. It's not my fault you lack the knowledge to understand what's really going on. Who are you to say I suck? lol, have I played you before? Think not, have you looked at my stats? I think not. Ever heard of the saying you can't judge a book by its cover. Halo isn't Halo anymore, it's just a shell of it's former self. If anyone is smart enough by the time the next one comes out and it still is the same crap, watch the sales decline. It's just like anything else, something does good, and then you market the hell out of it and butcher it until is nothing what it used to be.


Are you crying about the quit ban? It's 10 minutes or something like that, get over it.

And I don't have to play against you or look at your stats to tell if you bad or not. Your idiotic opinion gave it away...

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Posted by: rollerx45
ignorant fanboys.

Irony.
Posted by: rollerx45
oh yeah that is right, you sold out and got screwed in the process, only to save a small number of important team members to join 343..

Ignorance.

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Posted by: DBD AceRay96
people please, it's just a game...no need to pop a blood vessel or go into cardiac arrest. everyone has their own opinions and they should be respected; people who don't are the reasons wars start


respect is only for those who support the true way a Halo game should be. Anyone who doesn't like the original halo Trilogy gameplay and would rather have derp reach and all it's fallacies should be shunned for all eternity.

They deserve the greatest amount of disrespect for the heresy they speak.

thats a bit harsh dont you think? i just play for fun, i go with the flow. im a writer and an artist more than a gamer these days, so i have a better understanding of philosophy. what youre saying is a little over the top

  • 01.13.2012 9:59 AM PDT

just go play team slayer and quit your -blam!-ing
the rest of us had to go to one playlist to play real halo and we -blam!-,u default lovers just said adapt and ignored it
now that TU settings are spreading,go back to your obsolete play list

  • 01.13.2012 10:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: rollerx45
lol these forums are garbage like for real. what is this? did halo catch an STD or something? oh sorry, that's just a product of a bunch of ignorant fanboys. What happened to you Bungie? oh yeah that is right, you sold out and got screwed in the process, only to save a small number of important team members to join 343.. These forums are like a red-headed stepchild.


lol.

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Posted by: rollerx45
Reach punishes you because you quit a game that was completely unfair, or you had to run to go do something IN THE REAL WORLD.
You have to quit multiple games to be punished.. And even if you had to go do something in the "REAL WORLD" the 10 minutes wouldn't effect you because you're away from your xbox right?

Oh.. Adapt.

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Posted by: DBD AceRay96
people please, it's just a game...no need to pop a blood vessel or go into cardiac arrest. everyone has their own opinions and they should be respected; people who don't are the reasons wars start

People like OP are the only ones posting over at 343 and that's where they will get complaints and criticism for the next Halos.

Opinions like this will ruin future Halo games if actually listened to.

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Posted by: rollerx45
The point is that zero bloom makes you spam shots without regard to how accurate your are.

No. you still have to be able to aim. It's just that the slow movement speed, another thing wrong with Reach, makes that easy.
People complained about how they can't kill because they are inaccurate and therefore are unable to just judge distance and timing.
No again. They complained because bloom makes you miss while you are aiming right on them.
Zero bloom says hey dont worry about that, shoot all you want, as long as the reticule is on their head, that's skill.
Yeah actually that is skill. That's what
EVERY HALO GAME BEFORE REACH WAS
and now you don't have enough time to get to cover because even though im a supersoldier from the future, I can't run fast enough to avoid a barrage of spammed shots.
Blame slow movement speed for that not ZB.
It simply takes away you having to judge how accurate you are and caters to noobs.
Noobs couldn't aim in Halo CE, Halo 2, or Halo 3 so no. It definitely doesn't do that.
I'm sorry, I need a game with a bit more competitiveness, instead of one that just feels sorry for people who can't think enough to play the game how it was intended upon release.
Play Halo 3 or Reach MLG where movement speed isn't a problem. then. Default Reach is for casuals who can't aim.


Lol at the ignorant OP for ignoring this.

  • 01.13.2012 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Original bloom - I spammed and hit most of my shots and would get lucky a lot.

85% bloom - I spam and hit all my shots.

ZB - I spam and maybe hit 70% of my shots.

MLG ZB actually makes aiming much harder and much more of a vital skill.

Well?


QFT.

  • 01.13.2012 10:05 AM PDT

oh look at the infection run wild...lol...damn someone get some ointment or something! These forums need help like how Magic Johnson needed a cure for AIDS. Theres no sense in talking to a bunch of mindless and diseased apes. People who's got half a brain will only hate this game even more, and wonder why someone with a low rank just owned their butts without any previous knowledge about halo and its system. Yeah, reach is dead. Hello Battlefield. lol you wanna talk about skill, play that.

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Posted by: DBD AceRay96
people please, it's just a game...no need to pop a blood vessel or go into cardiac arrest. everyone has their own opinions and they should be respected; people who don't are the reasons wars start

People like OP are the only ones posting over at 343 and that's where they will get complaints and criticism for the next Halos.

Opinions like this will ruin future Halo games if actually listened to.

I said opinions should be respected, I never said anyone had to listen to them or act on them...

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Posted by: rollerx45
oh look at the infection run wild...lol...damn someone get some ointment or something! These forums need help like how Magic Johnson needed a cure for AIDS. Theres no sense in talking to a bunch of mindless and diseased apes. People who's got half a brain will only hate this game even more, and wonder why someone with a low rank just owned their butts without any previous knowledge about halo and its system. Yeah, reach is dead. Hello Battlefield. lol you wanna talk about skill, play that.


Hm, the feeling is mutual. Waiting for you to leave.

  • 01.13.2012 10:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: rollerx45
oh look at the infection run wild...lol...damn someone get some ointment or something! These forums need help like how Magic Johnson needed a cure for AIDS. Theres no sense in talking to a bunch of mindless and diseased apes. People who's got half a brain will only hate this game even more, and wonder why someone with a low rank just owned their butts without any previous knowledge about halo and its system. Yeah, reach is dead. Hello Battlefield. lol you wanna talk about skill, play that.

I do love battlefield though...

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Posted by: rollerx45
oh look at the infection run wild...lol...damn someone get some ointment or something! These forums need help like how Magic Johnson needed a cure for AIDS. Theres no sense in talking to a bunch of mindless and diseased apes. People who's got half a brain will only hate this game even more, and wonder why someone with a low rank just owned their butts without any previous knowledge about halo and its system. Yeah, reach is dead. Hello Battlefield. lol you wanna talk about skill, play that.

What the hell are you rambling about? Are you insane? Well that would explain everything you have posted so far...

  • 01.13.2012 10:09 AM PDT