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Subject: Bungie's Position on SOPA

M37's Response to SOPA

  • 01.20.2012 1:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: All of humanity
How so? They were going after the content that was hosted on US servers. Not to mention Megaupload wasn't properly following through with the DCMA take down notices.
Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
MegaUpload is a perfect example of why we didn't need SOPA or PIPA to begin with. There is plenty of copyright law in place now, and content producers do have legal recourse against violators. No reason to try to police what Americans can see on the internet, what search engines or ISPs can display for you, or to allow patent holders to force action against offenders without judicial process.
I think you misunderstood what Stevobi was saying. He didn't say that Megaupload wasn't doing what they're accused of doing. He said that their shutdown and arrest, in absence of SOPA and PIPA, show that laws like SOPA and PIPA simply aren't necessary to effect enforcement of copyright law.

[Edited on 01.20.2012 2:04 PM PST]

  • 01.20.2012 2:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Definitely voting this November, and voting hard like I'm Dewey Cox!


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[Edited on 01.20.2012 2:25 PM PST]

  • 01.20.2012 2:24 PM PDT

I understood what he said, but this part leaves me confused. Since the servers were in the US, we naturally went after them after enough evidence was gathered. If they were on foreign servers we wouldn't be able to do much if anything.
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
show that laws like SOPA and PIPA simply aren't necessary to effect enforcement of copyright law.

  • 01.20.2012 2:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: All of humanity
I understood what he said, but this part leaves me confused. Since the servers were in the US, we naturally went after them after enough evidence was gathered. If they were on foreign servers we wouldn't be able to do much if anything.
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
show that laws like SOPA and PIPA simply aren't necessary to effect enforcement of copyright law.
And why should the US gov't be able to do anything? There's no reason the US should be policing activity that occurs on foreign servers. Nor should a free nation's government be restricting its citizens' access to info on those servers (i.e., censorship).

I totally agree that piracy is wrong and very analogous to stealing (though not quite the same), but enacting draconian measures to combat it is the wrong way to go.

  • 01.20.2012 2:47 PM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.


Posted by: mindlessidiots
So apparently Penny Arcade and some other web sites are proposing that E3 be boycotted by all the game news sites and other comapnies and organizations that participate in it because the people who sponsor it, the ESA support SOPA and PIPA.

What do you think? Could it work, is it necessary? Personally I doubt it could work because all the major gaming news networks like gamespot and G4 will still cover it anyway and many people will still go to it because let's face it, it's one of the biggest events in the gaming world and it show cases everything new that will coming out, and it's fun.

Well ESA's dropped their support for both SOPA and PIPA now.

  • 01.20.2012 3:21 PM PDT
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This is possibly the worst/most unintelligible comment i have ever seen. Congrats on not having the self-confidence to simply state your position on the issue. Spineless comes to mind.

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  • 01.20.2012 5:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: aced4life3
This is possibly the worst/most unintelligible comment i have ever seen. Congrats on not having the self-confidence to simply state your position on the issue. Spineless comes to mind.

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They're opinion: they're against it. If you couldn't get that from what they wrote then, well, haven't you seen all the commercials? "Get your parents permission before going online"

  • 01.20.2012 5:17 PM PDT

What's up with all the -blam!-ing negativity?
Stop it.

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Didn't they recently pull SOPA?

  • 01.20.2012 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Leprechaun209
Didn't they recently pull SOPA?
For now.

  • 01.20.2012 5:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: Leprechaun209
Didn't they recently pull SOPA?
For now.


But they didn't pull PIPA, and it's only a matter of time before they try to pass SOPA's big brother that has metaphorical 'roid rage.

  • 01.20.2012 6:09 PM PDT

It's not camping, it's holding the designated location.

If SOPA is to stop piracy and copyright infringement, what would have happened to GNOP? It's basically a edited Pong, but could they have shut Bungie down because of it if SOPA existed back then? If you follow that thought, it would mean...NO HALO!

  • 01.20.2012 8:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: acnboy34
I'm happy Bungie finally took a stand on SOPA. SOPA is seriously evil and needs to be removed from existence.

  • 01.21.2012 1:29 AM PDT

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What about PIPA?

  • 01.21.2012 1:31 AM PDT
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  • 01.21.2012 1:36 AM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
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I believe pipa is either still held in committee as this is al getting bigger it becomes harder and harder to pick out the correct information.

  • 01.21.2012 12:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: shadow 2648
I believe pipa is either still held in committee as this is al getting bigger it becomes harder and harder to pick out the correct information.
I think its safe to just check the major news sources.

Joe's Blog For News Things and World Whatevers is probably the kind of sources you wanna steer clear from.

[Edited on 01.21.2012 12:39 PM PST]

  • 01.21.2012 12:39 PM PDT

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  • 01.21.2012 1:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Brian OA
New bill.

Derp.
Jesus Christ that bill is ridiculous!

H.R. 1981 my -blam!-ing ass! It should be called H.R. 1984.

[Edited on 01.21.2012 2:37 PM PST]

  • 01.21.2012 2:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: QuirkyNate
What about PIPA?

  • 01.21.2012 2:54 PM PDT

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  • 01.21.2012 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sgt Dippinbud
So, Deej, tell me. How do you use the three sea shells?
Wrong thread, my dude.

  • 01.21.2012 3:17 PM PDT

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  • 01.21.2012 4:13 PM PDT

Hold it right there.

Hello. Name's Brian. Look, if you're looking for a flame war with me, just open up the Flood and write up some not-nice things about religion and I'll bring my nukes to the party.

If you want some other way to contact me, you can forget it.

If you're interested in some of my work, you can check my homepage out.


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: Brian OA
New bill.

Derp.
Jesus Christ that bill is ridiculous!

H.R. 1981 my -blam!-ing ass! It should be called H.R. 1984.

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I see what you have performed there.

  • 01.21.2012 10:17 PM PDT