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Subject: Bungie's Position on SOPA

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Glad to see the opposition has Bungie support officially now!!

  • 01.13.2012 5:07 PM PDT

This thread made me smile and laugh. Love the Stallone picture, SOPA does indeed suck.

  • 01.13.2012 5:17 PM PDT

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Not surprised at all that the technically literate do not support this. Surprised you publicly said so, though. Good on ya!

  • 01.13.2012 5:18 PM PDT

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Thank you Bungie.

I've been reading this bill for a while and was very anxious to see if you guys over there slaving over computers all day or trash talking and sweating blood with the Pentathlon on the line, we're going to present a position on this.

Cheers!

  • 01.13.2012 5:18 PM PDT

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I say the bill "SOPA" is stupid. Especially, if it effects my favorite game company that I (one day hope to work for.)

I say we should make a thread and compile a list of all the peoples usernames on this site that are against it and send it to them.

IMO, SOPA is -blam!-.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 5:25 PM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 5:24 PM PDT

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  • 01.13.2012 5:26 PM PDT

I am a very pestamistic person. I see the glass half empty, even when it's full. Dont expect much from me.

Honestly, Im glad bungie did this... And other companies that look up to bungie hopefully will follow and the support against this stupid act will grow... I NEED MAOR BUNGIE

  • 01.13.2012 5:28 PM PDT
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SUPER happy to see Bungie against this. Good job Bungie!

  • 01.13.2012 5:29 PM PDT

*eats a sammich*

SOPA should jump in a pit.
Now if only the exploit where I could post pictures wasn't fixed, I'd post a picture. Meh, just kidding.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 5:37 PM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 5:32 PM PDT

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I have a feeling that Bungie's new enemy is SOPA, and it will be the first to be put in the slingshot. :D

  • 01.13.2012 5:59 PM PDT
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Glad to see Bungies put their foot down and being outspoken about the issue.

  • 01.13.2012 6:02 PM PDT
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It's pretty cool to see a company that's directly affected by piracy stand against this bill. Here's a part of the bill that's really not talked about often.

(4) ENFORCEMENT OF ORDERS-

(A) IN GENERAL- To ensure compliance with orders issued pursuant to this section, the Attorney General may bring an action for injunctive relief--

(ii) against any entity that knowingly and willfully provides or offers to provide a product or service designed or marketed for the circumvention or bypassing of measures described in paragraph (2) and taken in response to a court order issued pursuant to this subsection, to enjoin such entity from interfering with the order by continuing to provide or offer to provide such product or service.

The government is going to have the power to censor Mozilla for having addons that bypass the filters. It would be applied to any other website that tells you how to bypass them as well. In theory that could also lead to the blocking of foreign proxies because they would let people bypass the filters too.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 6:10 PM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 6:08 PM PDT

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Ever games company in town is against SOPA. Surely that should be noticed, and SOPA should be SOPAncaked.

  • 01.13.2012 6:10 PM PDT

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  • 01.13.2012 6:11 PM PDT

New Marathon? Thanks Bungie!

Im glad Bungie didnt disappoint me by supporting SOPA

  • 01.13.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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I don't want to help you. I'm sorry. =(

I'm a photographer.. If I post a picture with a logo in it online, not only will SOPA make me a criminal, but the entire host site? Also, doesn't this completely destroy Fair Use/Creative Commons Licenses? Is all that true? I'm not a lawyer or a politician so I have neither the know-how or the willpower to slog through the bill itself.. Anywhere I could find an unbiased condensed version of the bill?

  • 01.13.2012 6:15 PM PDT

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I believe Ben Franklin said it best, "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power." Or maybe more known to be paraphrased as "Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."

With that being said, I believe SOPA is stupid and creates unnecessary harm to the innocent internet user.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 6:19 PM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 6:16 PM PDT

This, is step 7....

Anyways, good. We need more people to oppose it. Bungie is a big one with such a great community, now we need 343 in it too if they aren't already.

  • 01.13.2012 6:18 PM PDT

I know you are but what am I?

I don't understand why everyone is up in arms about SOPA. It gives corporations to enforce current copyright laws. If you have an issue with this, take it up with copyright laws. Otherwise, this bill is only reinforcing a policy that has been in place for a while.

  • 01.13.2012 6:20 PM PDT

poor ilitch

Good on y'all.

  • 01.13.2012 6:21 PM PDT
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I'd be thrilled, -blam!- ecstatic, except for a few points:

1) SOPA was first proposed waaay back in October. 3 months to come to an opinion about something so clearly inflammatory is, well, slow.

2) SOPA is a non-starter, if nothing else, the DHS-driven deployment of DNSSEC will prevent it from ever coming to fruition (if it ever passes, which, let's face it, it won't). Given a choice between SOPA and DNSSEC, the US will choose DNSSEC every time. You gentlemen have enough technological know-how to understand this. So, you're backing a position safe in the knowledge that it, regardless of the moral authority, will be the eventual outcome. Coupled with the geological rate it took to reach the opinion, the opinion itself is debased.

3) You cite the EFF in your press release, but take absolutely contradictory positions to the EFF on your forums, notably the ban on perfectly legitimate software/hardware hacking discussion, hacking that has driven the modern computing industry to where it is today.

4) "Bungie is opposed to any legislation that curtails free speech, stifles innovation, and prevents the open sharing of information on the Internet" - So where are the press releases regarding PIPA, DMCA, PATRIOT and the multitude of other bills that pose similar/greater risks/are already implemented?

5) Bungie.net is registered with a registrar that refuses to take a position, instead delivering weasel words of the worst kind. Put your money where your mouth is: change registrars.

and so on and so forth.

So, yeah, it's nice you've taken this position, but you may as well have farted in the wind for all the weight it carries.

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  • 01.13.2012 6:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zon The Great
I don't understand why everyone is up in arms about SOPA. It gives corporations to enforce current copyright laws. If you have an issue with this, take it up with copyright laws. Otherwise, this bill is only reinforcing a policy that has been in place for a while.

This bill hurts the ISPs the most.

A Verizon executive said in an interview Wednesday that the legislation puts too much of the burden on Internet service providers to create new technologies to monitor and stop illegal consumer use of Web content.

"We have a number of concerns with the bill," said the executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the legislative push. "And we have been shut out of the process in writing this, even though it is very technical and requires us to use a range of technically difficult things to enforce this legislation."

  • 01.13.2012 6:25 PM PDT

I know you are but what am I?


Posted by: xImNotProx
This bill hurts the ISPs the most.

A Verizon executive said in an interview Wednesday that the legislation puts too much of the burden on Internet service providers to create new technologies to monitor and stop illegal consumer use of Web content.

"We have a number of concerns with the bill," said the executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the legislative push. "And we have been shut out of the process in writing this, even though it is very technical and requires us to use a range of technically difficult things to enforce this legislation."

I don't see your point...

Even if the bill hurts the Internet, it's reinforcing current laws. I certainly don't agree with these laws but if you do agree with the copyright laws I don't see why you don't agree with SOPA.

  • 01.13.2012 6:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zon The Great
Even if the bill hurts the Internet, it's reinforcing current laws.
It's shifting the job of enforcing and adjudicating those laws from the police and the judiciary to corporations, more so than the DMCA ever did, and shifts the burden of proof from the accuser having to prove the site is in violation to the site having to prove it isn't. Big fat -blam!- nope.

[Edited on 01.13.2012 6:37 PM PST]

  • 01.13.2012 6:33 PM PDT