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Subject: (SPOILER) I know how the UNSC finds John!!!

This isn't my thread. This was copied from the Halo 4 forums on Waypoint. I want to know what the users here think about it, because it seems a bit outlandish.

Ok so after reading Glasslands and Primordium, I believe I know what will be the backstory to Halo 4.

In Primordium it says that the UNSC has ONI scientists stationed at the Ark. This means that ONI must have reopened the portal on Earth. The flood on the Ark was destroyed during Installation-04B's premature explosion (lol.) While damaged, the Ark still supports gravity. ONI scientists have found the terminals that John found and learned of the Librarian, the Didact, and anything else the terminals talk about. While there they find a duplicate of 343 Guilty Spark. This duplicate was made of himself while he was on the Ark (either during Halo 3 or during the Flood-Forerunner war.)

When the Portal closed at the end of H3, it just sent the Forward Unto Dawn several lightyears away from the Ark. Once Cortana's beacon was activated, it took over 5 years or more to get to the scientists stationed on the Ark. This lets them know that Master Chief is still alive. They contact Earth via the Portal, Earth sends the UNSC Infinity that contains a Mark VII suit. The ship goes through the Portal to the Ark. With the Forerunner slipspace drive on the Infinity, the captain jumps to the signals location, which takes possibly a couple weeks or days.

Here's a few possibilities on how the Infinity finds John at the Shield World. They mind find the ship exploding from the strain of the Shield World's tractor beam. They manage to get John out and treat his injuries and such on the Infinity, and fit him with the Mark VII. Then the ONI agents on the ship send units into the Shield World, knowing that Forerunner technology could be useful.

Or they arrive and John is already in the Shield World and send in troops to recover him, and give him the Mark VII once they find him.

Spartan-IVs are on the Infinity so we'll definitely see them. Also it's most likely that we'll see Fred, Kelly and Linda. During a 4-player Co-Op, players will paly as these 4 main Spartan-IIs. The host is obviously John with everybody else being Fred, Kelly and Linda. Naomi may or may not make an appearance.



Also the Mark VII has very unique abilities such as transforming the energy shield for multiple purposes, such as energy daggers and walls. Possible new gameplay elements or armor abilities?

  • 01.14.2012 2:17 PM PDT

yas334229812

Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.

  • 01.14.2012 2:20 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

You just took everything that was in my head and put it in words. Or at least the original author did.

Regardless, tip of the hat to both of you, good sirs.

  • 01.14.2012 2:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: risay_117
Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.


In the begging he says they re opened the portal on earth. So that's how they get back to it.

And I find this theory very interesting and I quite like it.

  • 01.14.2012 2:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThePkeod

Posted by: risay_117
Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.


In the begging he says they re opened the portal on earth. So that's how they get back to it.

And I find this theory very interesting and I quite like it.


Unless the science team are talking to Chakas in 2559, it's not possible for the Excession to be fully active.

  • 01.14.2012 2:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePkeod

Posted by: risay_117
Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.


In the begging he says they re opened the portal on earth. So that's how they get back to it.

And I find this theory very interesting and I quite like it.

How did they open it? Aren't keyships the only ships that can do that, unless *gulp* ONI has the keyship?

  • 01.14.2012 2:38 PM PDT


Posted by: Quantam

Posted by: ThePkeod

Posted by: risay_117
Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.


In the begging he says they re opened the portal on earth. So that's how they get back to it.

And I find this theory very interesting and I quite like it.

How did they open it? Aren't keyships the only ships that can do that, unless *gulp* ONI has the keyship?


Considering only one is mentioned not being destroyed is on the Ark... Basically impossible.

also, a few weeks for a few lightyears, with a forerunner drive? lol.

  • 01.14.2012 2:45 PM PDT

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The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

  • 01.14.2012 3:32 PM PDT

I hope what they say about the 4 player co-op is true! That would be so totally badass!!!! and spartan 4s? they are gonna be intense!

  • 01.14.2012 3:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elder Bias
The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

One of them was. What if they are on the other? Maybe the portal can send you to either Ark?

[Edited on 01.14.2012 3:40 PM PST]

  • 01.14.2012 3:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Elder Bias
The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

One of them was. What if they are on the other? Maybe the portal can send you to either Ark?


Maybe so. However, having SPARTANs in Halo 4? Ehhh, it won't be good idea. Look at Reach, it was utter disaster. However, it won't be a problem if they only show SPARTAN-IVs in cutscene only. Remember, Halo 4 is about Master Chief and Cortana's destiny alone.

  • 01.14.2012 3:42 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: Elder Bias

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Elder Bias
The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

One of them was. What if they are on the other? Maybe the portal can send you to either Ark?


Maybe so. However, having SPARTANs in Halo 4? Ehhh, it won't be good idea. Look at Reach, it was utter disaster. However, it won't be a problem if they only show SPARTAN-IVs in cutscene only. Remember, Halo 4 is about Master Chief and Cortana's destiny alone.

>Spartan 4s come in.
>Boast about how awesome they are.
>Killed in one shot by the first Sentinel they come across.

  • 01.14.2012 3:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999

>Spartan 4s come in.
>Boast about how awesome they are.
>Killed in one shot by the first Sentinel they come across.


and Infinity blows up, then I'll be satisfied.

[Edited on 01.14.2012 3:49 PM PST]

  • 01.14.2012 3:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Elder Bias

Posted by: Xd00999

>Spartan 4s come in.
>Boast about how awesome they are.
>Killed in one shot by the first Sentinel they come across.


and Infinity blows up, then I'll be satisfied.


Or infinity's engines mess up and it comes out halfway into the planet. Resulting shockwave and impact kills everybody onboard including most of ONI, parangosky.

  • 01.14.2012 3:52 PM PDT

I love you

Can someone explain what Spartan 4's are?

  • 01.14.2012 3:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: cRiPpL3fIgHt45
Can someone explain what Spartan 4's are?


Read horrendous Glasslands.

Cmdr DaeFaron

Or infinity's engines mess up and it comes out halfway into the planet. Resulting shockwave and impact kills everybody onboard including most of ONI, parangosky.


You wish. Now on other matter, get coup 5. You need it. :)

[Edited on 01.14.2012 3:57 PM PST]

  • 01.14.2012 3:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Elder Bias
Posted by: Xd00999
Posted by: Elder Bias
The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

One of them was. What if they are on the other? Maybe the portal can send you to either Ark?


Maybe so. However, having SPARTANs in Halo 4? Ehhh, it won't be good idea. Look at Reach, it was utter disaster. However, it won't be a problem if they only show SPARTAN-IVs in cutscene only. Remember, Halo 4 is about Master Chief and Cortana's destiny alone.

>Spartan 4s come in.
>Boast about how awesome they are.
>Killed in one shot by the first Constructor they come across.


Fix'd.

  • 01.14.2012 3:57 PM PDT

Mind Blown.

  • 01.14.2012 3:58 PM PDT

This sounds really great, it ties up many of the loose ends i had about the halo series. Im currently reading through the book series including greg bears series and ghosts of onyx. Am i right in believing that the spartans that will be in halo 4 will be mark threes that survived in the shield world as they were recovered in glasslands thanks to the huragok. among those recovered was professor halsy creator of the spartan 2 and 3 programs and as she was creator of the spartans armour varians (evident within the diary available with thehalo reach collectors edition) this means any new variant mark 7 (ironic that that is bungies favourite number) in halo 4 would likely have been designed by her because of her survival. i dont particularly like the idea of the engergy sheild manipualtion thing as this sounds a bit stupid for a fps, plus covees had energy tech for ages before the unsc soif this was possible why hadnt they achieved it? they had energy swords but they werent manipulated from their sheilds. the built in jet pack seen in the trailer will be awesome although that trailer makes no sense due to the rather ugly new look of the chief..lets just hopew thats not mark 7 and i dont think it is as it has halo 3 battle damage which raises the question what happened to mark 6? what happened to you?!!! cant wait to play it 343 or bungie im sure halo is in safe hands and im sure it will continue the epic story.

  • 01.14.2012 4:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Elder Bias
The Ark was destroyed. So your theory is invalid. Move on, folks. Nothing to see here.


It isn't my theory.

  • 01.14.2012 4:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Elder Bias

Posted by: Xd00999

>Spartan 4s come in.
>Boast about how awesome they are.
>Killed in one shot by the first Sentinel they come across.


and Infinity blows up, then I'll be satisfied.


I can't help but think...

You're a mule.

  • 01.14.2012 4:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: risay_117
Question 1 how did the get to the Ark.

and if they were able to then your point is very possible.


In the begging he says they re opened the portal on earth. So that's how they get back to it.

And I find this theory very interesting and I quite like it.

How did they open it? Aren't keyships the only ships that can do that, unless *gulp* ONI has the keyship?


Considering only one is mentioned not being destroyed is on the Ark... Basically impossible.

also, a few weeks for a few lightyears, with a forerunner drive? lol.

Who said the Keyship was destroyed? To my knowledge we do not know it's fate.

  • 01.14.2012 4:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

I can't help but think...

You're a mule.


Elaborate. *Refer to bolded, underlined statement*



  • 01.14.2012 4:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Quantam
Who said the Keyship was destroyed? To my knowledge we do not know it's fate.


I didn't say that. I said the only keyship that wasn't destroyed in the forerunner-flood war is currently on the Ark.

Meaning ONI can't use it to open the portal.

  • 01.14.2012 6:11 PM PDT
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I hope they don't find Chief too soon. I wan't a feeling of adventure, mystery, being stranded and alone(besides Cortana), a feeling of Grandeur as the lone SPARTAN wanders and searches a large expanse of terrian on his own looking for answers.

  • 01.14.2012 6:20 PM PDT

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