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Subject: Explain AR Starts

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: RC Clone
Lol. All the responses are from people reading this thread.


Yeah, but you guys got the thread off the ground so hopefully it will get more attention from there and I'll get some answers. FOR SCIENCE!

Thanks, guys.

  • 01.14.2012 3:28 PM PDT


Posted by: InvasionImminent
Lesser skilled players do not necessarily like the assault rifle, I think most actually understand how weak it truly is. What they definitely do understand is the DMR. It can easily kill them, while in their hands, it is poorly used. They try to work around this by voting for AR starts, but what they are really doing is putting them selves at a disadvantage. Good players will hunt a DMR down and use it, while a lesser skilled player will be stuck with the AR, not being able to counter react properly.

In reality, they are hurting themselves.

Couldn't have put it better..

  • 01.14.2012 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Hang on, I'm gonna do a stat check.

Stats are irrelevant.. This person just has an opinion different than yours.

  • 01.14.2012 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

Is his opinion any less than yours just because he's "trash"? No, it isn't..

  • 01.14.2012 3:41 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

Although predictable, we can't expect people who support AR starts to have outstanding stats. I just want to know why they feel the way they do.

It only becomes an issue when they start discussing skill.

  • 01.14.2012 3:44 PM PDT

Bookshelf, all you're going to do is disrupt Viper's thread.

BTW he is entitled to his opinion, even if you think it is the dumbest thing ever.

  • 01.14.2012 3:45 PM PDT

"To me, a nice triple kill with the sniper is infinitely more impressive than any Living Dead Killionaire"

Does flaming people on forums count as an esport?

I'm a commendation/achievement/statistics freak.

-David (Drake)

OP, I think I have an answer.

Back when I was a Captain and below and played exclusively team slayer (April-May 2011) I was terrible with a DMR and would often be killed by it. This caused me to dislike "Slayer DMRs" and vote more often for "Slayer". I went 12-9 or so every game, and was happy. Then one day I started playing Arena, where every game has DMR/AR starts. Back in that time Arena was full of retards from TS, so most of them prefered the AR. Around that time was when I realized the DMR is a superior weapon to the AR in all ways . I started using it more and more, learning to time my shots and learning headshot strategies.I then learned a strafe, and now I consider myself an above average DMR.

Because of this, I think that many below average players with negative KD's like AR starts more because it is easier to trade kills with an AR. To someone with a good 1.91 KD like me, trading kills is infuriating and I despise it. But to someone like that, an AR kill might be the only kill they can get, so they are perfectly happy to get in an AR fight with someone, barely kill them without being killed, and be gunned down by one of my nearby teammates who gets a near-free kill.

In short, bad players like AR starts because it lowers the skill gap and allows for easier kill trading (which is what they want since their KD is below 1).

AR starts on Anchor 9 are playable and somewhat fun actually. Highlands though, is a different story altogether especially with the sniper rifle.

  • 01.14.2012 3:46 PM PDT

The Song Of Nephilim

Xenoblade <3

The ar is a crappy weapon, but people will use it if they have no other option. In the case of starting with one? Oh, yeah it sucks.. especially when you do not have a secondary weapon such as the pistol.

  • 01.14.2012 3:46 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

What I'm getting at, is the fact that his opinion is just as good as yours. Has it crossed your mind that maybe they like to play the game for fun?

  • 01.14.2012 3:47 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
maybe they like to play the game for fun?
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  • 01.14.2012 3:49 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Off my nutsack.

Was I ever on?

  • 01.14.2012 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
for fun?
Get out.

I don't see why people can't have fun on a game..

  • 01.14.2012 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

I have obviously made my point.. I'll be leaving now.

  • 01.14.2012 3:52 PM PDT

Bookshelf raging hard once more...

  • 01.14.2012 3:52 PM PDT

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  • 01.14.2012 3:52 PM PDT

Herp derp.


Posted by: Wumpa Warrior

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

What I'm getting at, is the fact that his opinion is just as good as yours. Has it crossed your mind that maybe they like to play the game for fun?

LOL CASUALS

  • 01.14.2012 3:53 PM PDT