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Subject: I want my health bar back in halo 3
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Health bars are a dying FPS system. If you have not noticed, many first person shooters have imitated Halo 2's system of hiding when your health, or shield, is low, and then getting back to full health. This mechanic makes it so that the gameplay stays focused on shooting rather than searching for health packs. Look at Call of Duty 2, Pariah, and Killzone. They all mimic this system. There must obviously be something to it.

  • 05.13.2006 7:47 PM PDT

I like the system in Halo2 rather than the Halo 1 system.

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Amen

  • 05.13.2006 7:48 PM PDT
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noo...that was one thing about halo 2 that was way better than halo 1. It was annoying to hav to scrounge for life packs. Not to mention having a marine healthpack in a forerunner structure that has nvr been touched by human hands is a bit unrealistic

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Yeah, please don't bring back health bars. Halo 2's system is much nicer. ;)

  • 05.13.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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The shields make for more fluid combat. After a fight in Halo CE you had half health and basically no chance of killing another person down the road. you would have to make the inconvenient trip back to a health pack.

Face it, most of you people dont know why you want it back or why it is better for it to be gone, you just think it would be cool. Well there is more to Halo than a cool idea.

Alot of thougth and consideration went into deicsions like this and I think this one was for the better. The H2 health system is more fluid, fun and simplistic. It was also used in CoD2 and Lost Planet (to an extent) which are both high quality acclaimed games.

Shields ftw.

  • 05.13.2006 7:55 PM PDT

Well, for the sake of staying cannon I think they will leave it the way it is. But it would be cool to have a health bar, though not as powerful as the CE verson. That recharges slowly over time, so no health packs, and even if you down to 1 health you can recuparate. And the sheld strength from H2 will be the same.

  • 05.13.2006 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Alpha Whatever
well i liked health but theres always health pack campers

Thats not an issue in h2

Well, they don't camp for health packs, but they do camp to get their shields up along with just general camping.

  • 05.13.2006 8:21 PM PDT
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i liked the health bar...i hope ist in HALO 3.

  • 05.13.2006 8:23 PM PDT
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no health bar, i like not knowing how much life i got left after i lose shield. then it seems more realistic

  • 05.13.2006 8:24 PM PDT

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There is health in Halo 2. You just can't see it. Ok, grenade at your freshly spawned feet. You live. Sheilds up, 2nd nade. You die. There is health, in campaign mode, it probably regenerates at loading points. In MP, Respawn.

  • 05.13.2006 8:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: John Keyes
I wouldn't want a health bar, I think it would better simulate the experience into a movie type thing, it should like when there were cut-scenes in Halo, show nothing but the gun on screen.


it is basically that, but we're seeing what the chief is really seeing.
if you read the books, he has a radar, as well as an ammo count on his HUD.
it would be much harder without knowing how much ammo you have and where you enemies are. it would take a lot less skill to kill somebody and a lot more luck

  • 05.14.2006 1:01 AM PDT

First off halo 2 has health. You can not see it but it is there if you get hit alot without a shield then get your shield back then later get it taken away your gonna die extremely fast. Also a sniper round to your body takes away a bit of health, 5 sniper shot 1 by 1 letting your shields recharge will kill you (there is some glitch where this wont work involving this with guests or somthing, im thinking mybe it just doesnt record guests health which be pretty stupid but whatever) I prefer it like halo 2 so there is health but the only people who notice it are the ones who will plan acording to there health and therefore gain an advantage, such as not take a even fight (smg+smg vs smg+smg) if they know there low on health. So no I do not want health packs to come back.

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  • 05.14.2006 1:25 AM PDT

One shot: one kill, zero seconds to live

yeah, it should come back. it gave the game a more realistic feel.

  • 05.14.2006 1:28 AM PDT

Posted by: spartanwingzero
yeah, it should come back. it gave the game a more realistic feel.

Somthing telling you how much life you have left comes off as realistic to you?

  • 05.14.2006 1:30 AM PDT
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Whichever one comes back, it dosnt matter. We will get used to it and love the game all the same. But if i had to choose between one or the other id have to go with the health bar. It may seem like a chore to get health packs, but if you think about it, there werent ever any real tight moments when you had to fight to get your health back. Now all you do is sit there and let it come back.

In Halo 1, you could be running around with one health bar left and be able to die at any moment. That is pretty intense and makes you be more carefull. In halo 2, you get hit, you seek cover, you wait, your as good as new. Where is the excitement in that?

  • 05.14.2006 1:31 AM PDT
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Heath bars rock. I get annoyed in mp when I almost kill someone and then their shield recharges and when their shield recharges their heath does too. I was fine to be rid of it in sp cuz it made it easier ; ) but in mp it just pisses me off.

  • 05.14.2006 1:43 AM PDT
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I would love the health bar back, yet they should leave out health pack.
This would make things very interesting. Kind of like with Ghost recon. You can take a few hits, but you better make sure you don't get hit when your health is low.
ANd it sure would make things great in multiplayer. Even with shield, you'll be forced to play a lot more careful due to the low health.

  • 05.14.2006 1:48 AM PDT
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why do people want a health bar when they also want the pistol
1stshot half shield snd shot no shield 3rd shot dead

  • 05.14.2006 1:49 AM PDT
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I dont want the pistol back. you cant assume things like that. Besides, with the new shield it isnt any different.

  • 05.14.2006 1:51 AM PDT
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Even if games have started to hide it, those games aren't wearing a mark VI armor and that's where the point is, those armors had a life notification thing.. even if halo 2 shileds are stronger, when you loose then you're officially dead. and no, if you have half health bar, you'tre not officially dead and that was an awesome point in halo 1, because depending of your skills you could kill 1 person, survive and have enought helat to kill someone else before your shields are reloaded. Forget this in halo 2 unless you're lucky or sword camping.

  • 05.14.2006 6:21 AM PDT

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My opinion does not matter.

And my opinion tells you to go to hell.

I dislike the health bar immensley. Without it you were forced to think on your feet, and if you couldn't do that then it was pointless to do anything in multiplayer. If you think about it picking up a health pack and just being isntantely healed isn't logical or believable. In the Halo 2 LE dvd they said that they wanted to make the game seem absolutely real. Health packs ruin that. Besides even with health you wouldn't survive a rocket or a sword...and the segmented bar looked weird.
Also, i can get tons of enemies with my shield down, its called strategy and motion. Its harder in multiplayer, but that doesn't make it less fun...in fact its more fun when you're in a desperate scramble to kill before being killed

  • 05.14.2006 6:42 AM PDT

They should keep the halo 2 health system. But, with the H2 health system, they should include mortal wounds. If you get shot in the chest with a sniper rifle, you should get 20 -60 seconds to find a medical kit to patch it up or else you die. When you get shot, your vision would keep pounding red on the outside, and when you get closer and closer to dying, the red would pound harder, and close in the middle more. If you get shot lets say in the foot with a sniper, then your health would be fine and regenerate H2 style.The med kits are ONLY for mortal wounds though.

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Personally I don't think it matters cause both have there advantages and disadvantages. But I was thinking of some suggestions like maybe have health bar and shield and have health bar's regenerate too. Or perhaps just have no health bars but when your shield is down u take as many hits as if u did have health bars and kinda ties along with health bars regenerate with shield cause maybe if ur shield recovered and got damaged again u could take the same amount as u did b4. But I wouldn't mind if it was just your shield down and taking extensive amount of hits without recovering that so the next time ur shield is down u can get get killed easiler or something I don't know.

  • 05.14.2006 6:54 AM PDT
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i want a sheild as strong as halo 2 and a health bar as strong as halo 1

  • 05.14.2006 7:00 AM PDT

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