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1) Driver drives. Try not to get too close to enemy players who might nade you or whip out a RL or FRG and ruin your Sunday drive.

Monitor health of gunner and passenger and your shields. If your shields are going down, retreat till they come back on line. If gunner health gets low, get him to health powerup. If passenger health is low, it's no loss, (see below). Also, when driving a RL hog, try to keep track of your gunners shots– 3 then l-o-n-g r-e-l-o-a-d. Don't drive into a situation that requires a blast from the RL if it's not loaded yet.

2) Gunner guns. Don't get in hog with low health. Dead gunners get drivers killed. If driver takes you to a health powerup, jump out and use it ASAP.

Unless you are taking fire from another direction, your job is to keep eyes front and clear the way for driver- ideally, every enemy should be dead by the time you get there.

RL gunner– make sure you are fully loaded going out– your driver may be counting your shots and timing his arrival accordingly. Blasting snipers off ledges is good, too.

CG hog gunner, just keep firing unless team mates are in the line of fire. If you arrive at an enemy base that is not deserted, stay in hog as long as its in motion. If there is/was no passenger to go for flag, it's your job to keep the enemy busy while other team mates go in for the flag. (Note to other team mates: If you have a hog harrassing the enemy base, that's a good time to snatch the flag.)

3) Passenger. You are totally useless till we get to the enemy base in a CTF game. Then you get out, slay your way into the base while hog stays in motion and gunner keeps gunning. Get in base, get flag get back in hog.

Don't stay in hog at enemy base and take shots at the enemy with your pistol as the hog circles. The longer you stay in the hog, the more enemy will be in the base, hiding from the gunner on the hog– and guarding the flag.

If driver stops at a FRG or RL on the way to the enemy base, jump out and pick it up. Don't throw nades from the hog. You don't know where drivers is going to go– half the time your nade almost blows up your own hog.

Remember- anyone you kill on the way to the enemy base will be respawning at your destination– and they'll be expecting you. If you wipe out the entire enemy team on your way to get the flag, you might feel like mighty slayers, but you probably will not make a clean getawy. Avoidance is best.

[Edited on 5/14/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 7:20 PM PDT
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3) Passenger. You are totally useless till we get to the enemy base in a CTF game.
No, there is a very important role for the passenger. The passenger acts as a human shield protecting the driver. :)

When you blow up a warthog with three players riding it with a rocket launcher, the game does not allow you to kill all three of them at once. The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Basically, you've got a much better chance surviving in a hog being the driver because any passengers and gunners absorb most of the damage before you die.

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No, there is a very important role for the passenger. The passenger acts as a human shield protecting the driver. :)

When you blow up a warthog with three players riding it with a rocket launcher, the game does not allow you to kill all three of them at once. The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Basically, you've got a much better chance surviving in a hog being the driver because any passengers and gunners absorb most of the damage before you die.


same with tanks lol you got 4 ppl on your treds your good to go takes like 3 or 4 rockets to kill you when you got 4 other guys taking the shots =P.

nice hints BTW.

  • 05.13.2006 7:39 PM PDT

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3) Passenger. You are totally useless till we get to the enemy base in a CTF game.
No, there is a very important role for the passenger. The passenger acts as a human shield protecting the driver. :)

When you blow up a warthog with three players riding it with a rocket launcher, the game does not allow you to kill all three of them at once. The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Basically, you've got a much better chance surviving in a hog being the driver because any passengers and gunners absorb most of the damage before you die.


Yes, I forgot about the "meat shield" effect. Thanks.

  • 05.13.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim

The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver.


EXCEPTION! This does not hold true for direct fire: If someone shoots the driver or passenger directly, they will do normal damage to the person shot and none to the other occupants of the vehicle. For example, a driver in a hog waiting for a gunner can be sniped and killed easily just after the gunner gets in, leaving the gunner in a very vunerable position.

  • 05.13.2006 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
3) Passenger. You are totally useless till we get to the enemy base in a CTF game.
No, there is a very important role for the passenger. The passenger acts as a human shield protecting the driver. :)

When you blow up a warthog with three players riding it with a rocket launcher, the game does not allow you to kill all three of them at once. The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Basically, you've got a much better chance surviving in a hog being the driver because any passengers and gunners absorb most of the damage before you die.


Yeah I was gunner, full health, got shot with a rocket and died, the driver survived, I was like wtf?

  • 05.13.2006 10:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim

The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver.


EXCEPTION! This does not hold true for direct fire: If someone shoots the driver or passenger directly, they will do normal damage to the person shot and none to the other occupants of the vehicle. For example, a driver in a hog waiting for a gunner can be sniped and killed easily just after the gunner gets in, leaving the gunner in a very vunerable position.


That's different than an FRG or RL attack. I <3 doing that, snipe driver, then passenger (2 for 1 if I'm lucky), then gunner.

  • 05.13.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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Ahhh I see, meat shield and all the times I blasted a warthog with 1-2 people survivng, I always thought that it was just the lag causing it but now I see, great tips.

Also you forgot one about the chain warthog. Single shots and burst shots are more accurate than full auto, so go single shot at long-extreemly long distance then mid-long distance with burst fire, and then mid-shot distance, full auto. This way by the time you get up close there dead. :) Also with this method, that I use all the time, i kill people in around 2-3 secodns and sometiems even 1 second, with the chain warthog. :) This combined with my accurate leading and extremely accurate aiming makes me kill people almost 100 percent of the time with the chain warthog. It's not 100 percent becasue of the usual happenings, FRg's RL's, rocket warthog sometimes but I kill them most of the time around 100 percent too, tanks, and horrible drivers who drive in a straight line getting the warthog naded, unlucky events, etc. etc.

Hope this helps.

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Wow. I like this thread. I'm being serious, and I don't say that a lot, if ever. This is possibly one of the most useful vehicle-related MP tip threads I've seen in a while.

  • 05.13.2006 10:51 PM PDT

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I got a couple problems with your reasoning but most of it is sound. First, if it is a driver and gunner the gunner gets out to get the flag. This allows the driver(who is your ticket out of there) o stay alive by being mobile. If I'm driving I circle the base twice. If the gunner hasn't exited by then I do, and leave his ass to get killed. The object is to get get the flag not run up your kill total by spawn killing.
Second, avoid killing enemies on the way to the base. When you kill someone on the way to the base they respawn 5 secs later close to the flag, they know your coming, and they're pissed. On your way back to your base after you have the flag feel free to kill anything in your path.
Third, just because the chain hog never runs out of ammo, doesn't mean you have to fire it when there are no targets. When you fre the chain gun you give away the position of the hog to the enemy. I have stopped many incoming hogs by throwing a grenade perfectly, even though I never see the hog until the last moment.

  • 05.13.2006 10:57 PM PDT

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Wow. I like this thread. I'm being serious, and I don't say that a lot, if ever. This is possibly one of the most useful vehicle-related MP tip threads I've seen in a while.


Thanks!

Another point: If things go badly– gunner gets killed, your sheilds and health falling fast, head back to base or at least to a TP that is linked to your base. No reason to lose the hog to the enemy.

  • 05.13.2006 10:59 PM PDT
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Personally, I favour the approach of after approaching the base, everyone get out - one person guards, the other two grab the flag and revert to home vicinity, either through hog or (if dangerous) through tele.

I find both drivers or gunners on their own die too easily AND attract too much attention to safely escape with the flag.

Other than that, good point Iggwilv - only open fire on targets in view (exception is that guy, with the fuel rod, who's facing the other way, no, DON'T SHOOT HI-) and respawn is a *expletive deleted*.

Also, if it's a well organised team game, you should probably hold some vehicles back in order to get a good convoy going.

Don't let fastmatt in the second RL gunner if you do, though.

  • 05.13.2006 11:03 PM PDT

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Iggwilv–
Agreed, if a 2 person team is going for the flag the gunner gets out– but I prefer a passenger to get out for the flag or someone who has gotten there on foot or in a ghost, etc.

I was going to mention something about not shooting when there was no target for stealth reasons, but I've been killed a few too many times when my gunner seemed to be sight seeing– I'm thinking "shoot damit, shoooot!!!" Then we die. Hogs make enough noise even with no gun blazing, plus you can see their headlights– especially in the tunnel in ice fields.

I did say not to kill too many people on the way to the enemy base. They'll be waiting for you.

  • 05.13.2006 11:21 PM PDT
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Another tip from me, when using the warthog and you try to run some people over at their base, then'll think your going to go straight at them most of the time, then they'll throw a genrade, if you time it right, turn the warthog your drive back, if you turn like this, the backend of the warthog will hit the person since they'll dodge to the side, either left or right, but I found if your to the right they'll dodge further left, howeverI'm not sure about when you're on the left.

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Another tip from me, when using the warthog and you try to run some people over at their base, then'll think your going to go straight at them most of the time, then they'll throw a genrade, if you time it right, turn the warthog your drive back, if you turn like this, the backend of the warthog will hit the person since they'll dodge to the side, either left or right, but I found if your to the right they'll dodge further left, howeverI'm not sure about when you're on the left.


This is a nice tip. I'm one of those guilty ones for throwing the frag. 99% of the time it works as the frag is hard to see. But time Hog right, and see grenadier fly.

  • 05.14.2006 2:15 AM PDT
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yeah i like to do this but usually i gun cuz im not the best person ever to drive, but im not the worst ethier. but once on death island something happened that was really -bleep- up. i was sittin in the gunner seat watchin my ally come to get in the hog, and BOOM a tank shoots us as soon as he gets in. he dies, the hog does a backflip, and my shield is not touched. this happened 3 times in a row and my shield was not hurt. it couldnt have been lag because the hog wasnt moving when we got shot and it hit us in the middle. i wasnt retarted enough to stay in the hog after we got shot, and waited until i saw teh tank die before i got back in. would anybody else know why this happened?
also i like to go on a 2-3 person raid team for teh flag on foot, and my ally gets teh flag and runs away while i cover his back. usually since people are mindlessy shooting at him, i can most often get 5 or so kills before i die, which provides a great delay for him to get away. this is always followed by a >=)

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EXCEPTION! This does not hold true for direct fire: If someone shoots the driver or passenger directly, they will do normal damage to the person shot and none to the other occupants of the vehicle. For example, a driver in a hog waiting for a gunner can be sniped and killed easily just after the gunner gets in, leaving the gunner in a very vunerable position.
Well, of course! You stick the driver and only the driver will die. I once sniped a driver out of a moving warthog and then the gunner. You shoot a passenger in the head, it won't kill the gunner. I realize this already.

The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Assuming that you are using a weapon with some form of splash damage, like a rocket launcher.
That's what I meant.

  • 05.15.2006 5:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
EXCEPTION! This does not hold true for direct fire: If someone shoots the driver or passenger directly, they will do normal damage to the person shot and none to the other occupants of the vehicle. For example, a driver in a hog waiting for a gunner can be sniped and killed easily just after the gunner gets in, leaving the gunner in a very vunerable position.
Well, of course! You stick the driver and only the driver will die. I once sniped a driver out of a moving warthog and then the gunner. You shoot a passenger in the head, it won't kill the gunner. I realize this already.

The gunner is the first to go, then the passenger, then the driver. Assuming that you are using a weapon with some form of splash damage, like a rocket launcher.
That's what I meant.


It also seems to work when shooting the hog itself with pistol or AR fire.

  • 05.15.2006 5:57 AM PDT