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Subject: Probably the hundredth about the gun.

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I haven't been in this forum long, but I guess the gun is a popular topic. You might hate me for saying this, but I think that without the scope, the Battle Rifle would look a lot like an Assault Rifle. You ever think it might be like an AK39 vs. AK47, and this is an AK52. It's probably a BR without the scope. maybe he put the scope on his magnum. Which he modified to make ONE clip lethal to a moving spartan without SMG assistance. By the way, the gun is definitely not an SMG, although technically it is an SemiMachineGun, just not THE SMG. Anyone who says it is is smokin crack -blam!-. Of course, I haven't done gun analysis or freeze and zoom...yet. NERD ALERT

  • 05.13.2006 7:58 PM PDT
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Another thing about a gun was that there was no night vision on the halo 2 sniper rifle!

  • 05.13.2006 7:59 PM PDT
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i think the battle rifle is a version of the MA5B but it looks to different to be the BR withoit a scope

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i was just going to post a topic about this..it sure likes a hell of a lot like the AR in the first game...but i wouldnt read much into anything at this point.

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I'm sure I'm just stating something everyone already knows...but I did notice that the barrel on the rifle he's carrying in the teaser is almost two times as long as the AR barrel...which makes me think it could be a modified version of the battle rifle...but who knows......

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You need your eyes checked man.

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i hope its a AR with a rate of fire control. like set it to auto burst or single shot each time you go to a lowwer fire rate give it a bit more acuracy.

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The SMG is actually the copy of the AR. 60 Round clip in both, Same Crosshair on both, and almost the same rate of fire. SMG is faster.

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Posted by: Pastree
By the way, the gun is definitely not an SMG, although technically it is an SemiMachineGun, just not THE SMG.

Doesn't SMG stand for Sub Machine Gun? just wondering lol

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lol...its the AR, you dont need to be a nerd to know that.

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Yes SMG is Sub machine gun not semi. If it was semi it would have a rate of fire and would be bigge ( bigger because it is not sub)

  • 05.13.2006 8:04 PM PDT

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Gun from the trailer = MA5B Assault rifle

SMG does not equal the Assault Rifle


Do you even know what the BR looks like? I definately don't think you do. The back is not closed off (like the MA5B is), and the portion on top is not solid (like the MA5B's is)

I think they we will have the MA5B, and the BR in Halo 3. But the gun in the trailer is the Assault rifle from Halo 1. They look EXACTLY the same, except the new model for the Assault rifle is slightly more sleek. Why, you ask? Because Bungie remade the model for the new game rather than using the 6 year old Halo CE model. So, it looks slightly differen.t Big whoop. It's the same -blam!- gun.


An SMG is a sub machine gun, not semi..did you seriosuly hear someone say the gun in the trailer is an SMG? Lol, you know he's a newbie to the Halo series.

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Posted by: Lumen Atra
I'm sure I'm just stating something everyone already knows...but I did notice that the barrel on the rifle he's carrying in the teaser is almost two times as long as the AR barrel...which makes me think it could be a modified version of the battle rifle...but who knows......

God, SHUT UP about that! I'm seriously starting to think that half the people on this board are either completely -blam!- blind or are just so lazy that the feel compelled to say the same thing someone else made up OVER AND OVER AND OVER! If I showed you an AK-47 with the trigger guard cut off you'd probably think it's a fluffy pink bunny!

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SPAM. Im new to the forum as well. being new doesnt giv u an excuse to not read the rules and check other threads to make sure ur not spamming

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Posted by: Pastree
I haven't been in this forum long, but I guess the gun is a popular topic. You might hate me for saying this, but I think that without the scope, the Battle Rifle would look a lot like an Assault Rifle. You ever think it might be like an AK39 vs. AK47, and this is an AK52. It's probably a BR without the scope. maybe he put the scope on his magnum. Which he modified to make ONE clip lethal to a moving spartan without SMG assistance. By the way, the gun is definitely not an SMG, although technically it is an SemiMachineGun, just not THE SMG. Anyone who says it is is smokin crack -blam!-. Of course, I haven't done gun analysis or freeze and zoom...yet. NERD ALERT

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  • 05.13.2006 8:07 PM PDT

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OK Sub Machine Gun. Won't happen again.
The SMG is a practical = to the AR in CE, but as far as physical appearance goes, they are way different. The BR= Pistol in CE, and the magnum=Dual Wielding gimic, which I love/hate.
Now, I'm going to take a good look at that rifle in the trailer. As for the barrel BS, they added a muzzler thing. A silencer on a pistol doesn't change the type of pistol.

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Somebody's angry. I don't know that much about weaponry, so calm down, I'm just speculating. If we aren't allowed to speculate in the forums, where CAN we do so?

As for them bringing the AR back, it is possible, but here's a snippet from the most recent Bungie Update-
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Why is the Assault Rifle in there?

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Who says it's the standard Assault Rifle? Doesn't look identical to me…
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Again I say "Who knows".

  • 05.13.2006 8:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lumen Atra
I'm sure I'm just stating something everyone already knows...but I did notice that the barrel on the rifle he's carrying in the teaser is almost two times as long as the AR barrel...which makes me think it could be a modified version of the battle rifle...but who knows......


I noticed this also. It makes me think that this new gun may end up being a gun based on consistancy, like the guns in PDZ. It would definately be a skilled gun if it required burst-fire to be accurate.

  • 05.13.2006 8:10 PM PDT

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This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

I think it's an BR and AR hybrid, meaning they took the best parts of both guns and made one gun. I can say for one it's basic shape resembles the assult rifle but it's longer and according to what I seen can hold 1 clip more then the assult rifle (note there is four squares on the outside design of this gun and there was three in halo : Ce's AR). I believe it is more accurate then the assult rifle but more more spread then the battle rifle. I hope they do the same with the pistol making it not as strong as the one from halo CE but not as week as the one from halo 2. As for the shotgun I hope it has more range.

  • 05.13.2006 8:11 PM PDT

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Case solved. AR with a secondary burst fire mode. The barrel EXTENSION adds accuracy and a bit of stealth. Instead of two rooms hearing the shot only one will. And they'll be dead, and therefore there is only a vibration in the air, and no sound. Unless you hear it. in which case you are -blam!-.

  • 05.13.2006 8:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: ghostvirus
I think it's an BR and AR hybrid, meaning they took the best parts of both guns and made one gun. I can say for one it's basic shape resembles the assult rifle but it's longer and according to what I seen can hold 1 clip more then the assult rifle (note there is four squares on the outside design of this gun and there was three in halo : Ce's AR). I believe it is more accurate then the assult rifle but more more spread then the battle rifle. I hope they do the same with the pistol making it not as strong as the one from halo CE but not as week as the one from halo 2. As for the shotgun I hope it has more range.


I certainly hope the pistol with be days away from the one from Halo 2

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Posted by: Lumen Atra
Somebody's angry. I don't know that much about weaponry, so calm down, I'm just speculating. If we aren't allowed to speculate in the forums, where CAN we do so?

As for them bringing the AR back, it is possible, but here's a snippet from the most recent Bungie Update-
__________________
Meeper asks,

Q:
Why is the Assault Rifle in there?

A:
Who says it's the standard Assault Rifle? Doesn't look identical to me…
__________________

Again I say "Who knows".

Bungie never answers questions..well not many of them. We as the community should learn to use common sense. When he says 'not quite' he either means:
1. they bulit the model over - though it serves the same purpose and is the same gun.
2. MC grabbed a new barrel cause his got messed up. This would have no effect on the gun rather than slightly lower the area in which it fires.

It's not some hybrid, and the only way it looks like a BR is cause it has a longer barrel than the AR, but so what? That makes it a new gun?

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Posted by: Pastree
Case solved. AR with a secondary burst fire mode. The barrel EXTENSION adds accuracy and a bit of stealth. Instead of two rooms hearing the shot only one will. And they'll be dead, and therefore there is only a vibration in the air, and no sound. Unless you hear it. in which case you are -blam!-.


Hmmm...That's a respectable theory...

  • 05.13.2006 8:16 PM PDT