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Subject: Community, do you want more incentive to invest in a single account?
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Talk to the Soul | ~B.B. | Know Your Duardo |  | Hero | ISFJ | 77135 | 94371

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

I have wanted some type of "incentive" or "unlockables" ever since the titles came online. This would give new users something to strive for (though they do strive for titles currently), and it would keep older accounts in line. I would imagine people would be more careful in regards to the rules and alternate accounts.

  • 01.15.2012 9:04 PM PDT

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"Don't eat doughnuts on thin ice."

"The pancake, my friend, has officially been flipped."

I think that newish users should have equal access to all the features of the website. Sure maybe give some candy to the site's veterans, but denying new users the features of the website takes away the incentive to stay and post in the first place and creates a wider gap between new and old users.

A nicer title and maybe some other eye candy type treats are fine, but I think that all users (save ninjas and employees) should have equal access to the website's base features.

  • 01.15.2012 9:07 PM PDT

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Incentives would be an amazing addition.

One Week - The ability to post to the forums.

Seven Months - The ability to use hyperlinks. Not embed, mind you. That would just be stupid.

Two Years - 25% off of Bungie products.

Four Years - The ability to warn users.

Six Years - Can temporarily ban users and get two free PAX tickets.

Seven Years - Free Bungie products, full administrator privileges, free PAX tickets for life, and round-trip tickets to Norway.

  • 01.15.2012 9:09 PM PDT
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Talk to the Soul | ~B.B. | Know Your Duardo |  | Hero | ISFJ | 77135 | 94371

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

I don't think anyone is saying that current features should be taken away. New members would most likely still have the 24 hour limit on when they can make threads, and they would still be able to post and have avatars and stuff. It's just that when they see older members having things they don't have, they would want to stay to gain them.
Posted by: Grimick
I think that newish users should have equal access to all the features of the website. Sure maybe give some candy to the site's veterans, but denying new users the features of the website takes away the incentive to stay and post in the first place and creates a wider gap between new and old users.

A nicer title and maybe some other eye candy type treats are fine, but I think that all users (save ninjas and employees) should have equal access to the website's base features.

  • 01.15.2012 9:10 PM PDT

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The problem with limiting privileges of newer members would be that it would just make B.net less fun for anyone new, so they would be less likely to stick around.
Then make the progress to unlocking privileges visible to allow people to see when they're going to unlock something new. Perhaps even give them hints or instructions on how to unlock things.

I guess as long as you get main forum privileges from the get-go (or at least very quickly) you could let newer members unlock more out of the way things. For example, after a little while (longer than any main forum privileges, but still not difficult) they would be given the right to join groups. A more difficult incentive to earn would be the right to create their own group.

Or instead of/in addition to granting new privileges, existing ones are expanded. After a day you are allowed to create one thread per day, and after a week you get three, working your way up to seven. The same premise for group membership. This way the new member is able to taste everything on B.net pretty quickly, but still has things to look forward to.

Additionally, to discourage the use of alternate accounts to bypass blacklists, when caught, both accounts should be reset to having no privileges at all, or having a chunk of privileges taken away.
This is a good idea.

  • 01.15.2012 9:11 PM PDT
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Fine.
Posted by: RogueAssassin27
One Week - The ability to post to the forums.

Seven Months - The ability to use hyperlinks. Not embed, mind you. That would just be stupid.

Sketchy.
Two Years - 25% off of Bungie products.
Bad.
Four Years - The ability to warn users.
Crazy.
Six Years - Can temporarily ban users and get two free PAX tickets.
Trolling.
Seven Years - Free Bungie products, full administrator privileges, free PAX tickets for life, and round-trip tickets to Norway.

[Edited on 01.15.2012 9:16 PM PST]

  • 01.15.2012 9:13 PM PDT

I suspect llamas are secretly wizards. I <3 poptarts n' milk. I like me. Grimick is defined as: a logical parodox, the act of funnaling a potato down your throat, and a deliciously flavored muffin (with pecons and blueberries). Norway is the Swedish word for 'moron'. My sister has cancer, so i get to use handicap parking and cut small children in line at Disneyland.

"Don't eat doughnuts on thin ice."

"The pancake, my friend, has officially been flipped."


Posted by: Duardo
I don't think anyone is saying that current features should be taken away. New members would most likely still have the 24 hour limit on when they can make threads, and they would still be able to post and have avatars and stuff. It's just that when they see older members having things they don't have, they would want to stay to gain them.
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That's fair. Sounds good to me :) What kind of rewards do we have in mind here?

  • 01.15.2012 9:15 PM PDT

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What's the incentive in having multiple active accounts other than just "ummm I like having multiple identities... soo cooL!!!" or having a trolling account?

  • 01.15.2012 9:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Izak609
Is there something wrong with my suggestions? I think that it would work quite well, but in the case that it isn't, how could it be improved?

[Edited on 01.15.2012 9:25 PM PST]

  • 01.15.2012 9:19 PM PDT

Brand Name Recognition is reason enough for me to keep to a singular account.

  • 01.15.2012 9:23 PM PDT
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Time spent on Bungie.net shouldn't dictate who does and doesn't wield the ban hammer and I could see Bungie loosing all their money on such an offer.

I don't know, but under those terms, I'd rather not have the system. I'm sure our fellow users will come up with something though.
Posted by: RogueAssassin27
Is there something wrong with my suggestions? I think that it would work quite well, but in the case that it isn't, how could it be improved?

  • 01.15.2012 9:24 PM PDT

I suspect llamas are secretly wizards. I <3 poptarts n' milk. I like me. Grimick is defined as: a logical parodox, the act of funnaling a potato down your throat, and a deliciously flavored muffin (with pecons and blueberries). Norway is the Swedish word for 'moron'. My sister has cancer, so i get to use handicap parking and cut small children in line at Disneyland.

"Don't eat doughnuts on thin ice."

"The pancake, my friend, has officially been flipped."

I have to agree with Izak here. Your suggestions were a little insane and unreasonable. I don't think anybody should be given a hammer based on seniority alone.

[Edited on 01.15.2012 9:27 PM PST]

  • 01.15.2012 9:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Izak609
Time spent on Bungie.net shouldn't dictate who does and doesn't wield the ban hammer and I could see Bungie loosing all their money on such an offer.

I don't know, but under those terms, I'd rather not have the system. I'm sure our fellow users will come up with something though.
Posted by: RogueAssassin27
Is there something wrong with my suggestions? I think that it would work quite well, but in the case that it isn't, how could it be improved?
All I'm trying to do here is make improvements to Bungie's current system, because it's obvious that it isn't good enough.

"Wisdom comes with age"; it would be flawless! If we had the most experienced members of the community along with the ninjas, there would be no hiding from the law!

  • 01.15.2012 9:27 PM PDT

I suspect llamas are secretly wizards. I <3 poptarts n' milk. I like me. Grimick is defined as: a logical parodox, the act of funnaling a potato down your throat, and a deliciously flavored muffin (with pecons and blueberries). Norway is the Swedish word for 'moron'. My sister has cancer, so i get to use handicap parking and cut small children in line at Disneyland.

"Don't eat doughnuts on thin ice."

"The pancake, my friend, has officially been flipped."

Time spent on the internet is not a sign of growth and certainly not a sign of wisdom. Sorry bro, it just isn't working for me.

  • 01.15.2012 9:29 PM PDT

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"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

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What's the incentive in having multiple active accounts other than just "ummm I like having multiple identities... soo cooL!!!" or having a trolling account?

Currently, there isn't an incentive either way and that's the problem. People can make new accounts on the fly and do what they want. There is no guidance to one way or another. With unlock-able privileges, users would have to be on their best behavior to unlock certain toys to play with. At least with some kind of system, it might sway the user into behaving a certain way.

Sure they could continue their ways on alternate accounts, but who else is getting satisfaction out of the "work" they're doing? No one.

I have been a member of other forum websites that use this system, and to be quite honest, it does motivate you to be a positive contributor. You want to unlock cool stuff that you see other users posting with.


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  • 01.15.2012 9:30 PM PDT
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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

The main problem I see with tying "extras" to member titles is that member titles barely work. Hell, look at this thread. "High" titled users are using that they have high titles to imply that having a title means something. They clearly don't really care about titles, yet use them to troll. Its that kind of widespread mentality that makes the titles unimportant to begin with. Its that sort of behavior that proves that having a title does not really mean you should be, or are actually trusted.

I guess using extras might be a good experiment to see if my inference holds water. Would "high" titled users not use titles to troll because they'd run a risk of losing those potential extras? Or would they use them as more justification to troll with them, as there's some actual value to them now? I don't know, but I'd presume a lot of both would be happening. I'm just saying that I doubt giving something that's devoid of value and is used for negative things would changed if you actually gave it some value.

I do think some things, even some things related to join dates and titles might be useful. Like the you can't make a group without a certain title being associated with your account. Or you can't use certain mark ups until you've been here a certain amount of time. The threshold should be really low though, so my above mentioned fears don't come to fruition.

Though as I initially said, I think there are other ways, better ways, to add an incentive to only use one account. Most of that depends on how future accounts are created and managed though. If we don't get some kind of internal account here, which you could then link to third parties like WLID and PSN, then I don't see any practical way of adding incentive aside from the highly flawed model of extras on titled accounts above.

I guess we'll see.

  • 01.15.2012 9:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Grimick
Time spent on the internet is not a sign of growth and certainly not a sign of wisdom. Sorry bro, it just isn't working for me.
However, it's my opinion on what must be done to improve the extremely inefficient system that Bungie has in place, so it has to be the only way.

  • 01.15.2012 9:33 PM PDT

This would be unnecessarily complicated for the webteam, but what about early viewing of top stories for older, more active, members. When the story is posted, certain users who have been here for X amount of months and been active for X amount of days or so, will be able to see the story. Everyone else would have to wait a week or two to see the story.

This is an idea that was spawned off of Rooster Teeth's website. Sponsors get early viewing of videos that are posted on the site.

  • 01.15.2012 9:45 PM PDT

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I think we're looking at this slightly askew, instead of do you want it - what would you want? What type of things appeal to people to be earned as rewards? The actual idea of having this is rather sound, but figuring out the details of what people want is the challenge.

  • 01.15.2012 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yoozel
I think we're looking at this slightly askew, instead of do you want it - what would you want? What type of things appeal to people to be earned as rewards? The actual idea of having this is rather sound, but figuring out the details of what people want is the challenge.
The severed heads of my enemies.

Or t-shirts.

  • 01.15.2012 9:50 PM PDT

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I reascend my previous comment.

  • 01.15.2012 9:56 PM PDT

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Honestly, it doesn't matter that much to me. There is only a few things you can offer that won't make the community cry out in unfairness.

However, for the fun of the topic lets say I like the idea of adding "more incentives" to investing time into one account. I think the "title system" could be designed to reward older members with some more exclusive avatars and themes. Add in the ability to unlock different titles and choose between them and long serving members get their own visual flair on the forums.

  • 01.15.2012 10:55 PM PDT

The tide is turning, brothers! Let us take our kingdom back!

Maybe just exclusive avatars or something? I dunno.

  • 01.15.2012 10:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yoozel
I think we're looking at this slightly askew, instead of do you want it - what would you want? What type of things appeal to people to be earned as rewards? The actual idea of having this is rather sound, but figuring out the details of what people want is the challenge.
The severed heads of my enemies.

Or t-shirts.

T-shirts of cats with funny captions underneath them.

Or heads of our enemies. Tough choice.

  • 01.15.2012 11:04 PM PDT

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