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Subject: Theory vs. Theory...
Poll: Which theory sounds more likely to happen (if any)? Please read fir...  [closed]
Theory #1 (Halo inside Earth):  24%
(5 Votes)
Theory #2 (Ark in moon):  14%
(3 Votes)
Neither!!!:  62%
(13 Votes)
Total Votes: 21

Please read the following before voting or posting, and if you have another theory, I'd like to hear it!

Theory vs. Theory…

First things first, many thanks to Halo Empire and ghostvirus for their amazing, well thought out theories.

Theory #1: Halo Inside Earth…

I believe that there is a Halo aligned with the Earth's equator just below the Earth's crust. I would have to say that this was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the Halo3 Trailer.

I base this assumption on firstly the appearance of the dome structure itself. It is also mentioned in the Bungie’s Halo3 FAQ.
“Q: What was that crazy huge dome buried under Earth? A: We're not saying, but Halo fans may recognize something about its design.”
Well I immediately recognized it from the outer surface detail of the Halo’s structure. They without a doubt have this same dome design on their exteriors. You can see this on this official bungie wallpaper entitled “Delta Halo Exterior” located here: http://www.bungie.net/images/games/halo2/wallpapers/H2-Delta_ Halo_Exterior_1600.jpg

Now when I first looked at this image and compared it to the dome in the Halo3 Trailer I first thought that there is far too few of the huge panels that push skyward. Though if you look at the spacing as they seem to be in pairs, and count them. There are fourteen panels in the Halo3 Trailer. Then go back to the Delta Halo Exterior image and look at the largest dome structures we count only twelve. But if you look at the smaller dome structures you count fourteen. Perfect match, however lets look into this theory a lot more.

I load up Encarta and using its atlas I look for Mombasa in Africa and notice that it lies about 400km south of the equator. Definitely to southward of the equator to align the larger dome structures and perhaps far to southward to align with the smaller dome structures as well. However just up the road from Mombasa is the town of Voi. Same name from the track titled “Road to Voi” from the second movement of the Epilogue on the Halo 2 Soundtrack. This town is around 280km South of the Equator. So if A Halo’s Equator were aligned with the Earths Equator then the town of Voi would make a likely dig site for this smaller dome structure. Also try to remember how sprawled out the city of Mombasa is when in Halo 2’s cut scene were the Master Chief lands on “In Amber Clad” shortly after giving the Covenant their bomb back. Compare that cut scene to a current map of Kenya. It seems that Voi in 2552 has become nothing more than an outer suburb of the greater Mombasa Metropolis. This theory has received yet more support from Frankie’s Bungie Weekly Update located at http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=weeklyupdatemay 1206 were
“xTr1GGeR HaPPYx asks: I'm guessing those ruins in the back are Old New Mombasa, so, whereabouts is the Chief and this Forerunner structure? And Frankie’s reply: That is indeed the ruins of New Mombasa. The artefact and the Chief are where they appear to be, on the desert outskirts of New Mombasa, and many miles inland. The mountain behind him is Kilimanjaro.” Again if you look at a map of Kenya you will see that the town of Voi sits exactly half way between Mount Kilimanjaro and the city of Mombasa. Other supporting information mentioned in Frankie’s Update Q&A section is when
“Just Another Fan asks: In the trailer I'm only seeing capital ships, what happened to the old covenant cruisers, will they make an appearance in the final product? And Frankie’s reply: What you're seeing is an excavation force. Its makeup is purely practical.” This all fits with the Halo within a planet theory.

These Dome structures are one of the most recognizable features on the outer side of the Halo’s so they definitely fit Bungie’s FAQ’s Question of “What was that crazy huge dome buried under Earth?” and subsequent Answer of “We're not saying, but Halo fans may recognize something about its design.”

Another piece of evidence to back up this theory is that the Earths diameter and a Halo’s diameter are both around 10,000kms. More accurately speaking the Earth's diameter is 12756.34kms at its widest point, larger than Halo's 10,000kms diameter. Also the majority of the Earth's inner and outer Core are made up of Nickel and Iron so it would be extremely hard to detect a Halo Made of a unknown metal stone alloy under the Earth’s crust using some kind metal scanning as a manner of detection.

As for the concept of building a Halo beneath Earth’s surface, I believe it was built somewhere else and then teleported under the earth’s crust. Why would a race as advanced as the Forerunners who pioneered and mastered slip-space technology not be able to achieve some sort of slip-space matter exchange system and build the Halos were convenient building materials are to be found like the asteroid belt in our solar system. Then after construction in the asteroid fields they simply teleport the completed Halo whilst simultaneously exchanging its volume with the same volume of the Earths crust. This crust material then reappears in place of the construction site of the newly built Halo amongst the asteroid belts leaving us all none the wiser. As for having a powerful enough or precise enough slip-space technique to do this, may I draw you attention to “First Strike” were in Cortana was able to achieve extremely precise slip-space insertions down to the millimetre in spite of gravitational influences. This also brings to mind the significance of the Crystal Dr Halsey discovered in the Forerunner installation under Menachite Mountain on Reach. This crystal changed shape, function and characteristics while in slip-space and increased the power of the slip-space engines on “Ascendant Justice” massively. In fact enough to engulf a spherical area of exactly 10’000kms around the ship in a slip-space rupture along with the 14 Covenant Cruisers and a Covenant Carrier that occupied the same volume of normal space before creating the rupture. (Page 212 First Strike) Perhaps Regret’s Flagship was equipped with one of the three remaining shards of the crystal mentioned in the epilogue of “First Strike” and this is why he created the huge crater of Mombassa when he left Earth for Delta Halo in Halo2. This 10,000kms range of the slip-space rupture and the 10,000kms diameter of the Halo’s can’t just be a coincidence. This must be the crystal’s Significance.

Also the crystal found on Reach emitted neutrino radiation. Neutrinos pass through all known matter as if it were empty space. In theory they could be attuned to a specific frequency in order to create a resonating wave front that's frequency reacts with of a protein sting (what DNA is made from) in order to kill the life form reliant on the DNA this would ensure the destruction of all life in its range. These neutrino normally would not normally do any harm to anybody, though we humans have never been able to recreate let alone alter any of their characteristics, so maybe the Forerunners worked that out and made this normal physical phenomenon into a weapon.

Also remember in the Forerunner Installation under the old titanium mines of Menachite Mountain mentioned in “First Strike”. The Master Chief and the other Spartans Trained for most of their lives in this area of Reach and apart from possibly a few ONI agents no one ever new about this Installations existence, not even Dr Halsey Who’s Spartan program was situated in the ONI Installation built above and amidst the titanium mines under the Menachite Mountain. For this massive 100,000 year old Forerunner Installation sit 6kms under a Mountain formed millions, maybe even billions of years ago with out any noticeable or detectable geographic disturbance to Menachite Mountain or any of the surrounding terrain, only a method of matter teleportation and exchange, using slip-space technology, similar to what I suggested above could be employed.

As for why would you hide a Halo under the Earths crust? I consider it to be possible to have both a Halo and the Arc right here on earth and still sit with many current theories and Halo Law. It would make sense to prevent a premature activation of the Halo by a small minority of fearful Forerunners in an attempt of self-preservation, as the activation of the Halo would also see the destruction of all life on their homeworld, Earth. An insurance policy if you like, that ensures all else has been tried previously to the Halo’s activation to eliminate the Flood. This acts as a safety measure of postponement until absolutely all hope is lost in a battle against the Flood. That way the Forerunners could fight tooth and nail until the sacrifice of firing the Halos far out ways the price. Then when absolutely necessary, at the last possible moment they retreat to the Arc located under the ice of the Arctic or Antarctic Then the lucky surviving Forerunner descendants, the Humans escape the cataclysm in the safety of the Arc. After the Halos Firing sequence is complete the survivors can then move on and re-establish humanity else ware in the galaxy by terra-forming a new home, much the same way Noah and the Arc’s survivors did in the Bible.

As for how much tectonic movement has occurred in the last 100,000 years? Is it enough to destroy or pull apart a superstructure built by the Forerunners just over 100,000 years ago, a structure that has only been precisely slip-spaced into its current position under the Earth's crust in the last 100,000 years? Perhaps this is also a function our Halo performs. A kind of thermostat to help our planet maintain its unique life giving geothermic core as it is believed that our Earth is the only planet with such a core in our solar system. Also my theory contains the consequent destruction of our Earth and our Halo so it would only need to be engineered to perform this task and not remain as a structurally sound deep space installation like the other Halo’s


  • 05.13.2006 7:58 PM PDT

(sorry, not enough room)

(continued from above)

So there we have it. We have a WGD (Weapon of Galactic Destruction) buried right here on Earth.

Theory #2: The thing in the trailer is a Giant scarab gun meant to uncover a ship (supposedly the ark, hence the name, and the fact that it is a ship much like Noah’s) on the moon.

Actually it looks and sounds like a very large scarab primary gun. Also it never seems to amaze me how in october 2004 joseph staten the head of cinimatics stated the forerunners don't remain in our galaxy any longer and eyt people still say humans are the forerunners. You ARE NOT A FANboi. Every person that has ever been in the forums have said or thought atleast once we are the forerunners which is enough proof to me we not. Then we have a bungie staff member say this.

The point is it's a large scarab gun . Notice the things around the side and the hole in the middle resemble a large scarab gun and it has the same sound but louder then a scarab gun. It doesn't look like a halo at all halos have no middle. Ask any of the "elders" of plot theorization many months ago came to the conclusion that the scarab gun was a mining tool. Which makes sense based on what an actual scarab it. It's firing at the moon and it is going to uncover a ship. THAT ship is the ark . You seem to forget about noahs ark and in there the ark being a ship. Also halos are disks that fly over the head of angels and the halos from halo float over planets not inside planets.

P.S some people have a hard time using logic to make comparisions the thing showed us what halo we were on and in halo 2 were on the second smallest halo. The first smallest is maybe 3/4 of the one were on. That was 3 miles wide and in no way resembled a halo.


They both sound logical, well thought out, and convincing. So, the question is, which sounds probable? Which (if any) do you think will come true in Halo 3?

  • 05.13.2006 7:59 PM PDT
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1. I'm not reading all this.
2. I don't care, I'll wait and see when the game comes out.

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Posted by: HaphazardIy
1. I'm not reading all this.
2. I don't care, I'll wait and see when the game comes out.

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1. You needed to put a choice of "Both"
2. I don't even know those theories.
3. That is too long to read.
EDIT:
Ha, I just noticed that everyone that has replied has put numbers except for the first guy. But he put parenthases instead.

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The “shoot the moon” theory seems to be the one that is more story driven. Also, this leaves the door open for space battles E.G. Use of Long Sword, Use of jet packs, etc.




  • 05.13.2006 8:06 PM PDT
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Neither.

Earth = Ark
Thing openning = Control room / Ark of the Covenant


There is no Halo ring in the Earth, that's just silly.

The best theor around in my opinion, but the fact is that it has the least holes in it and is most likely to come true is located here and is by: opogjijijp


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Posted by: T Money 360
I think MC is in some sort of dream or vision created by Gravemind. why else whould cortana be talking like that. she is talking about "this is how the world ends." why whould she say that when it is happening. What also bothers me is why is MC walking? wouldnt he be running to something that important. he is so relaxed with his gun on his shoulder like that. maybe that is why the banshees do not fire at him, they cant really see him because it is a dream world.


Because Gravemind got to her... And what are you more likely to notice? A giant blue thing exploding in front of you or your worst enemy to your right.

And as for on topic. To me, it looks a lot like a Library elevator...

  • 05.13.2006 8:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: T Money 360
I think MC is in some sort of dream or vision created by Gravemind. why else whould cortana be talking like that. she is talking about "this is how the world ends." why whould she say that when it is happening. What also bothers me is why is MC walking? wouldnt he be running to something that important. he is so relaxed with his gun on his shoulder like that. maybe that is why the banshees do not fire at him, they cant really see him because it is a dream world.


Because Gravemind got to her... And what are you more likely to notice? A giant blue thing exploding in front of you or your worst enemy to your right.

And as for on topic. To me, it looks a lot like a Library elevator...

It reminds me of The control room. You need to place the index in the control room, and the beam is sent out through there. I'm guessin this is the Ark (Earth)'s version of the Control rooms to fulfill the Ark's secondary purpose.

  • 05.13.2006 8:59 PM PDT

The life and world you see is just a cheery toped and sugar coated version. You know nothing of Hell. Unknown to you and everyone around you is that there is a war going on that you can't see. Now that you know, you are part of it. And if you are going to survive, your going to need to learn to pull the trigger.

isn't the arc in Earth?

  • 05.13.2006 9:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: AngelKiller
isn't the arc in Earth?

Yes.

Earth, as a whole is the Ark (Noah's Arl) and everyone on it is safe from the Rings


The thing we see in the trailer is the Ark's Control room (Ark of the Covenant) and sets off the rings.

  • 05.13.2006 9:04 PM PDT