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Subject: The Forerunner are Humans!
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It is somewhat obviouse that the forerunner are infact humans! After the Chief is told what Halos purpose really is by the moniter the moniter says: "When you first activated this insalation you asked if it where me would I do it..." that isnt exactly what he said but it is close. anyway The moniter just said that either a human or something very like a human first activated the ring (or the master chief goes back in time in halo 3 to activate the rings)
The moniter always refers to humans as "reclaimers" in order to reclaim something you must have had a claim to it before. Which means the humans were in control of the rings which means they are forerunner. I've also noticed the moniter and pentient tangent (the red one) to act somewhat hostile towards the covenent and dont talk that way when addressing humans.

  • 05.13.2006 8:12 PM PDT

People have been saying this for more than a year you know.

  • 05.13.2006 8:13 PM PDT
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Most of us caught onto this pre-Halo 2 but anyway...

  • 05.13.2006 8:13 PM PDT
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Right

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Yea, it caught the communities attention when 343GS was talking to the Chief in the library I think

  • 05.13.2006 8:15 PM PDT

there comeing for you barbra look there goes one of them now

yeah this is old news

  • 05.13.2006 8:15 PM PDT

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Actually they ahve been saying this for six years and two years ago a bugnie employee said " the forerunners no longer remain in our galaxy" and yet people still waist there time. Guilty spark was speakign directly to master chief.

You don't get a new boss and tell him " Last time I worked for you I thought you were a tool " if your really talking about employers in general. When oen uses the word "You" with otu adding the word " Guys" or " People" it is talkign about one specific person. Last time MASTER CHIEF asked him. Also last time I checked theres a difference between the world reclaiemr and forerunner.

  • 05.13.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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I don't think they are exactly the forerunners, though I do think both races are closely related. The monitor recognizes the chief as a "Reclaimer" not a Forerunner or "Creator" which leads me to believe that the Humans aren't exactly Forerunners, because if they were, the monitor would have likely called him "creator" or something. Several times in Halo 1/2, he recognizes the forerunners as his "creators", while he recognizes the Chief/Miranda Keyes as "reclaimers".

  • 05.13.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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good point

  • 05.13.2006 8:19 PM PDT

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i didn't catch this preHalo2. wah. wah.

An obvious hint is that the monitors speak frickin english. which is bull because in 500 years we'll all be speaking Huttese because of a Tattooine invasion and the fat epidemic. Hoo Ow! Do Wanna Wanga. Wanga. Seven WiupiWuipi. Wiupuipi?
No Jabba no barta. SOLO! SOLO! CHU DUP CANOLA SOLO. SOLO!

  • 05.13.2006 8:20 PM PDT
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Like previously said, this is nothing new. After Halo: CE we at least new MC was similar in appearance or dna structure to Forerunner because of 343GS. After Halo 2 and 2401 Penitent Tangent's referral to Miranda Keyes as a Reclaimer, the identity is undeniable. Point in fact is that humans were either chosen by the Forerunner to be the Reclaimers or that humans are in fact Forerunner, with myself favoring the latter.

  • 05.13.2006 8:22 PM PDT
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mabey Humans are an evolved version of forerunners like the rings blasted them back to the stoneage and the humans evolved from their but the mniters knew or were told that the humans would come back and would reclaim their rings and what not. and yes I know that sounds crazy

  • 05.13.2006 8:22 PM PDT

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then why are the humans so unadvanced compaired to the covenant, when we could build the rings in we were the forerunners.

  • 05.13.2006 8:23 PM PDT
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Actually they ahve been saying this for six years and two years ago a bugnie employee said " the forerunners no longer remain in our galaxy" and yet people still waist there time. Guilty spark was speakign directly to master chief.

You don't get a new boss and tell him " Last time I worked for you I thought you were a tool " if your really talking about employers in general. When oen uses the word "You" with otu adding the word " Guys" or " People" it is talkign about one specific person. Last time MASTER CHIEF asked him. Also last time I checked theres a difference between the world reclaiemr and forerunner.


343 doesn't know everything, he is just the monitor of a Halo, he only knows what he was programmed to know. How is he supposed to know if every forerunner was eliminated when Halo was activated, especially when he was confined to Halo Installation 04?

Also, he might not be telling the humans/elites the whole truth about the fate of the forerunners, because he doesn't trust them: the Covenant afterall did release the flood, and the 343 even calls them (Covenant) interlopers in the Conversations from the Universe booklet (Halo 2 LE), and even though he calls humans Reclaimers, and seems to trust them at the beginning of Halo 1, humanity (MC/Miranda/Seargant Johnson) did prevent the activation of the Halos twice, and did destroy one Halo installation (two things that the monitor is totally against).

  • 05.13.2006 8:24 PM PDT

The forerunners could be humans, or there is one peice of the puzzle that will make everything seem a lot clearer and maybe Humans aren't the forerunners....we will have to wait and see

  • 05.13.2006 8:27 PM PDT
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Don't forget the key to the anchient technology is on Earth. While that connection might seem weak, my guess is much like the Stargate Atlantis Anchients, the Forerunners were the first iteration of the human race. Clearly, they either got into trouble and all died out, or left the galaxy. The current human race (UNSC) are most likely decendents of the forerunners.

Forerunner and Human (UNSC) DNA is likely very similer which is why 343GS and its other orb friend from Halo 2 recognize them as reclaimers. Anywho, thats my two cents.

  • 05.13.2006 8:32 PM PDT
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the forerunners might have known that they would be not completely wiped out but like turned stupid so they had to evolve all over again and get smart.

  • 05.13.2006 8:35 PM PDT
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For those questioning the connection because of humanity's lack of technology compared to the Forerunner, remember back to when 343GS spoke of the first catastrophic outbreak of the flood and the firing of the rings. Humans are Forerunner, this shouldn't even be up for debate. The only part I'm still stuck on is whether the ark is another halo in itself or just a key, although I'm leaning towards it being the primary halo. Consider this from the weekly update:

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Fimiki asks,

Why do the clouds do the swirly thing?

Fictionally: Tremendous, never-before-encountered, seething subatomic energies.
Factually: Parallax mapping and other techniques.

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Comparing the artifact in the canyon to the glowing circles found on the exterior of halo rings, you will notice it has one more "clamp" I guess I would call them(the things raising towards the sky) than circles found on the exteriors of halos. Somebody posted that the circles on the exterior of halos have either 12 or 14 depending on if they were the big or smaller ones, but counting carefully I see 12 each. The significance of this to me is unknown but it should be noted. Even if this artifact isn't a firing mechanism it was definitely built by Forerunner which is exciting enough as it is. Also, I think it should be noted that Master Chief is unbelievably calm at this point, raising suspicion in my mind on what exactly is going on. Perhaps Cortana is the one saving Earth and controlling whatever artifact is in the trailer. It's wrong to assume that humanity is doomed already considering this part of the Q&A:

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Nf Snapzilla asks,

-sometimes trumpets are blaring to celebrate success and jubilation, sometimes they are blaring in a defeated mourning manner, any thoughts?

-if you can answer this, could you also answer whether the Chief 's mindset in the trailer is in accordance of, or in defiance of these trumpets.

Trumpets have also been used to signal a charge to war or a call to arms. It could mean many things. You'll know in 2007.

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Well, that's it for now, I don't like theorizing so much because of it's irony, but I would be more than glad to clarify any questions or test any theories others may have.

  • 05.13.2006 8:52 PM PDT
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just think of this tartarus couldn't insert the index to activate halo and neither could the rest of the covenant but both MC and miranda keyes could or did insert the index to trigger halo, also as to the fact that the forerunners are no longer in this galaxy means nothing maby they used a giant ass vector jump to leave this galaxy and move to a new one where there were no flood and had someone stay behind to fire the halos.

  • 05.13.2006 8:58 PM PDT

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According to my calculations, Yes!! See the Forerunner is a lost human civilization and knowlege. Forerunners were very smart and they had medicines that can cure cancer and AIDS. But they wanted something more..... They wanted to revive people, so they tried and finnaly it worked, but something whent terribly wrong. The humans that they revived became evil from missing brain cells. They attacked the Forerunner colonys on all halos and the Foreruners became extinct.

The reason why the Halos are weapons is because they wanted to scare away Aliens from invading. When they all died out it was easy for the Covenate to find and land on the ring, when they where with the Pillar of Autum. Flood (revived humans gone wrong) created new species such as the Grave Mind.

  • 05.13.2006 9:00 PM PDT

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i think ive heard every theory about halo atleast 67 times.

Good job on putting clues together, seriously. But look to see if anyone else has posted it somewhere else and post your idea there

PLEASE

  • 05.13.2006 9:00 PM PDT
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i have 3 words for you... O,L, and D

  • 05.13.2006 9:01 PM PDT
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I have a problem with the Forerunner still existing, for if they did, the situation would have never gotten to this point. Considering that Forerunner are human and Covenant worship Forerunner, if Forerunner were still around they would reveal themselves as human and the war would be over, either by the Covenant's assimilation in to the human ranks or the complete annihilation of the Covenant.

  • 05.13.2006 9:02 PM PDT
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3 words for who

  • 05.13.2006 9:02 PM PDT

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Why are the humans called Foreruner?

  • 05.13.2006 9:08 PM PDT