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Subject: Durandal = Gravemind = Cortona?
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It feels like Durandal and Gravemind are alike somehow and if they are the same entity, along with the notion that Durandal and Cortona are made from "same steel and temper", wouldn't they be like a one big happy family? \
Just a guess.

edit: Cortona letters are very interesting, go read them. So are stuff on Marathon, it must have some correlation with Halo.

Edit 2:

Durandal is the AI from Marathon, I think he escaped the cloture of the universe in the end of Marathon by combining with this other entity.

So if Durandal escaped time and have eternity, then based on what gravemind said, which is the poem below (hidden in reverse during the game and on the 5th track of Vol 2 soundtrack), Durandal and Gravemind are awefully similar.

I have walked among men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose.
I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man.
I live to see death, destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished.
I live in a prison of my own demise.
I am lost in time... (repeats)

If you know minor background about the swords that the AI's are named after, (i.e. Cortona and Durandal) then you would come upon a story about the carvings of the sword Cortona, It says "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana."

Basicly, Durandal and Gravemind share the same fate which is their binding to eternity. Cortona is also related to Durandal, which in turn make her related to Gravemind.

Edit 3:
Another thing is that Durandal was weilded by a cousin of Charlemange, so:

-Durandal and Charlemange existed at the same time 771 BC (Charlemange
became king of all the Franks).

-Gravemind said he has been around for 3000 yrs.

-2552 (time Halo takes place) + 771(Time Durandal was around) = 3323 yrs

interesting isn't it?

[Edited on 5/14/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 8:43 PM PDT
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dont guess any more.

  • 05.13.2006 8:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kappin
dont guess any more.

  • 05.13.2006 8:45 PM PDT

"Live and die by the sniper" -Zanaris

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this topic phails

  • 05.13.2006 8:46 PM PDT
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You know, he does have a point. I pondered this myself.

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Posted by: Gruntaloob
You know, he does have a point. I pondered this myself.


Don't ponder any more.

  • 05.13.2006 8:48 PM PDT

"Live and die by the sniper" -Zanaris

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yes pondering too hard can hurt!

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Um...how do I ponder too hard? it's pretty obvious if you read the Cortona letters and know alittle about Marathon.

  • 05.13.2006 8:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Theoden
Um...how do I ponder too hard? it's pretty obvious if you read the Cortona letters and know alittle about Marathon.


Just no. Your obvious=long streatches of guessing which shouldnt be done.

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Why shouldn't it be done? it's all for the fun of the game. If you don't like it then just leave my post forever and be gone.

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Posted by: Theoden
Why shouldn't it be done? it's all for the fun of the game. If you don't like it then just leave my post forever and be gone.


Some things are fun, some things are stupid. Take a hint.

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Whos Durandal!?

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Durandal is the AI from Marathon, I think he escaped the cloture of the universe in the end of Marathon by combining with this other entity.

So if Durandal escaped time and have eternity, then based on what gravemind said, which is the poem below (hidden in reverse during the game and on the 5th track of Vol 2 soundtrack), Durandal and Gravemind are awefully similar.

I have walked among men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose.
I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man.
I live to see death, destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished.
I live in a prison of my own demise.
I am lost in time... (repeats)

If you know minor background about the swords that the AI's are named after, (i.e. Cortona and Durandal) then you would come upon a story about the carvings of the sword Cortona, It says "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana."

Basicly, Durandal and Gravemind share the same fate which is their binding to eternity. Cortona is also related to Durandal, which in turn make her related to Gravemind.

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I think Halo and Marathon share an interesting thread of timeline.

Who knows, maybe there is a Marathon 4 that was never made that would include halo technology.


Can we get some timeline information in here please?

Perhaps Marathon1>Marathon2>Marathon3>Marathon4>HUMANITY REAPPEARS>Halo>Halo2>Halo3

I wouldn't put that past bungie, marathon has it's own story arc, who says its not in the halo bible?

  • 05.14.2006 10:04 AM PDT

I'm blue da ba di da ba dai!

I just want to say its not cortona its cortana just saying.

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Another thing is that Durandal was weilded by a cousin of Charlemange, so:

-Durandal and Charlemange existed at the same time 771 BC (Charlemange
became king of all the Franks).

-Gravemind said he has been around for 3000 yrs.

-2552 (time Halo takes place) + 771(Time Durandal was around) = 3323 yrs

interesting isn't it?

  • 05.14.2006 3:45 PM PDT