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Subject: How to calculate how good of a driver you are.

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I rarely get in vehicles, but I generally receive positive feedback when I am the driver of a vehicle from players in-game.

  • 01.16.2012 1:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: the pib
Is it being subjective to value achievements differing in value by an unknown amount equally to avoid being subjective?
In trying to be completely unbiased and not put subjective amounts on these sprees you have to put subjective amounts on sprees (in your case, 1), which whether you wanted it or not values someone getting 15 wheelmen and 3 deaths as an equal to someone who gets 15 wheelmen and 0 deaths. In other words valuing everything equally is just as subjective as trying to to value one more than the other (by a specific amount).

It's quite the catch 22.

I said my previous post would be my last on this subject but you've appealed to my interest in mathematics. Damn you. ;p

  • 01.16.2012 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: the pib
Is it being subjective to value achievements differing in value by an unknown amount equally to avoid being subjective?
In trying to be completely unbiased and not put subjective amounts on these sprees you have to put subjective amounts on sprees (in your case, 1), which whether you wanted it or not values someone getting 15 wheelmen and 3 deaths as an equal to someone who gets 15 wheelmen and 0 deaths. In other words valuing everything equally is just as subjective as trying to to value one more than the other (by a specific amount).

It's quite the catch 22.

I said my previous post would be my last on this subject but you've appealed to my interest in mathematics. Damn you. ;p

It's true that the formula undervalues the higher sprees by an unknown amount in order to not assign them any additional value because that would be arbitrary, that's a bit of a catch-22, but it doesn't make it subjective.

The problem with this formula is that it can't differentiate between these two hypothetical players with the same number of Wheelman medals.

Player 1: 30 Wheelman Sprees, 0 Road Hogs, 0 Road Rages
Player 2: 15 Wheelman Sprees, 10 Road Hogs, 5 Road Rages

Is Player 2 empirically better? At face value it seems so, but maybe he has fewer streaks of any length because half the time he drives off the edge or gets blown up after 1 kill, mistakes that Player 1, who appears more consistent but less deadly, wouldn't make. Maybe Player 1 is an even better driver but he always plays 1-Flag and the rounds are so fast that he doesn't have time to earn a higher spree. It's impossible to tell.


If the question the formula is designed to answer is "How often do the other occupants of a vehicle you are operating, provided at least one of them gets at least one kill, go on to earn five kills cumulatively", which is the most inclusive way to frame it, then no, a multiplier of 1 is not subjective.


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[Edited on 01.16.2012 2:35 PM PST]

  • 01.16.2012 2:16 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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[Edited on 01.16.2012 2:26 PM PST]

  • 01.16.2012 2:25 PM PDT
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It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I can't believe you people are wasting time on this bull-blam!- math.

You want to know how good of a driver you are?
You just know.

It's not in the numbers, it's in the moment.

Your numbers can say whatever they want.

But if you flip that vehicle over during the current match...

YOU'RE A TERRIBLE DRIVER!

Ignore the numbers.

[Edited on 01.16.2012 5:14 PM PST]

  • 01.16.2012 5:11 PM PDT

Rarely use vehicles. I save that skill for driving games. Regards.

  • 01.16.2012 5:14 PM PDT

.45... I just started driving though.. Two weeks ago I had less than 100 wheelmen, now I have 750

  • 01.16.2012 5:20 PM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
But if you flip that vehicle over during the current match...

YOU'RE A TERRIBLE DRIVER!

Disagreed, a well placed nade by a skilled player can flip even the best drivers..

  • 01.16.2012 5:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S
I can't believe you people are wasting time on this bull-blam!- math.

You want to know how good of a driver you are?
You just know.

It's not in the numbers, it's in the moment.

Your numbers can say whatever they want.

But if you flip that vehicle over during the current match...

YOU'RE A TERRIBLE DRIVER!

Ignore the numbers.

Quite frankly this.

It's not rocket science, people.

Although interference from an enemy can negate the third and second-to-last sentences.

[Edited on 01.16.2012 5:22 PM PST]

  • 01.16.2012 5:21 PM PDT
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Yeah but what about the games where i get 70 wheelman and no deaths?

  • 01.16.2012 5:22 PM PDT

Hold it right there.

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Once, in a game of Halo 3, I got a gunner a Perfection medal, thanks to my driving and his gunning.

What does that tell you?

It's not necessarily about the driver, but also about the gunner. A Warthog and any vehicle's effectiveness relies completely on all of the passenger's cooperation.

  • 01.16.2012 5:23 PM PDT

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You forgot splatters

  • 01.16.2012 5:38 PM PDT

.47

I haven't driven much.

  • 01.16.2012 5:43 PM PDT

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Looks like I am a trash driver.

  • 01.16.2012 5:49 PM PDT


Posted by: ankerd123
Yeah but what about the games where i get 70 wheelman and no deaths?

This. My highest was 120 odd wheelman, and im fairly sure i only got the one road rage with no black screens resetting my sprees.

  • 01.16.2012 7:03 PM PDT

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