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Subject: Competitive players are a dying race.
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Oh yeah, good thing you bring up the ranking system.

Even the lack of the ranking system is there to benefit the try-hards. because now the tryhards can continually get matched against people completely out of their league and pad their stats against them.


I'm glad you brought that up.

  • 01.17.2012 9:24 AM PDT

Posted by: MR E0S
Even the lack of the ranking system is there to benefit the try-hards. because now the tryhards can continually get matched against people completely out of their league and pad their stats against them.
A tryhard can't improve if he is never matched against players of similar or greater skill.

  • 01.17.2012 9:26 AM PDT


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Posted by: MR E0S
Bloom hurts solo players more than it hurts team players.
Competitive players are team players.
Casual players are Lone wolfs.

On that end, you'd be correct. However, it's far more constricting to competitive players to the point where we NEED teams just to compensate for such a bad mechanic. Reach is the only game where I've been so wanting for full parties. Surely I have preferred them before, but now we are forced into our habits as a result of bloom since it's now so easy for a fight between a player and a better player to end up going either way not as a result of skill.

In other words, bloom makes teamwork essential rather than a trait of a good team and having that forced upon us doesn't help things. It hurts casuals the most, because you'll find so few of an amount of good players actually going random to help even up teams as as a result you'll see games where a full party will destroy randoms just about every time.


No, it hurts players playing by themselves. Out of competitive players and casual players, it hurts competitive players.

Yes, I know. I misstyped that "the most" part.

  • 01.17.2012 9:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: MR E0S
Oh yeah, good thing you bring up the ranking system.

Even the lack of the ranking system is there to benefit the try-hards. because now the tryhards can continually get matched against people completely out of their league and pad their stats against them.


I'm glad you brought that up.


Oh my god, you're actually retarded.
French an electrical outlet.

How is that good for us? We don't get matched up with even players anymore. SOMETHING NEEDED FOR COMPETITION

You want to know who it actually helped? Bad kids like you who couldn't get past Lieutenant.

[Edited on 01.17.2012 9:32 AM PST]

  • 01.17.2012 9:26 AM PDT

I'm out.


Posted by: MR E0S
Even the lack of the ranking system is there to benefit the try-hards. because now the tryhards can continually get matched against people completely out of their league and pad their stats against them.


That's actually really boring.

  • 01.17.2012 9:29 AM PDT

chances are I don't care who you are or what you say.


Posted by: Darknova24
too much text, But I agree. We will probably never see 1-50 again. Hopefull 343i includes this in Halo 4, if not it might just determine if i get the game or not.

to be honest.. all games are casual. all games are filled with random players across the globe.

competitive and ranked playlists like in halo 3 will probably never appear again due to low population of hardcore gamers which inhabit those playlists.

1-50 is probably coming back in H4 as how many people really do want it

  • 01.17.2012 9:30 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Hey southpole, why don't you suck on a southpole.
Because until you can explain to me how bloom and AL is more beneficial to one half or the other. you're posts are just worthless.



Bloom = if we both spam at each other in a 1v1 battle. it's a toss up

Comeptive player = OK, so I'm going to ensure that I get into as few 1v1 as possible...No wait, I'm going to -blam!- at 343 to remove it instead, because I don't want to have to do actual teamwork with my team.

Casual player = OK, so I'm going to hope that one of these other guys that sucks and has no mic, is willing to follow me and help back me up.



Armor Lock = Haha, rejected

Compeitive player = Hey, bro! This casual is camping me while I'm Armor Locked, can you come over and bail me out before it runs out.

Casual player = Is anyone there? Does anyone have a mic? I need some help! Nevermind. I'm already dead.

[Edited on 01.17.2012 9:33 AM PST]

  • 01.17.2012 9:31 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

You really think the lack of ranking system was there to benefit the casuals? Really?

You really think casuals enjoy getting matched against competitive players completely out of their league forcing the issue to quit the match... REALLY?

My god...


Apparently when only 1 person (ME) has a clue what the real issue is. Of course all the retards will think I am the retarded one.

[Edited on 01.17.2012 9:36 AM PST]

  • 01.17.2012 9:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

That is literally the stupidest thing I have ever read on this site.

  • 01.17.2012 9:35 AM PDT

I'm out.


Posted by: MR E0S
Hey southpole, why don't you suck on a southpole.
Because until you can explain to me how bloom and AL is more beneficial to one half or the other.


AL slows down the game and allows players to make mistakes and not get punished for it. For non competitive players these things don't really matter and it can be fun. For competitive players it's a nightmare because every time someone armor locks you have to wait 8 more seconds to get a kill you already earned.



Bloom takes skill but it also adds luck into the equation, which is incredibly frustrating.

  • 01.17.2012 9:36 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Also, if bloom was so detrimental, and just a toss up with Bloom enabled.

How come everyone isn't sitting on 1.0 K/D with the weapon?
Since according to you Bloom is the great equalizer that completely eliminated the skill gap.

Why was it that certain people could pull 2.0 K/D ratios with that weapon. and other people are completely opposite of that.

Even the numbers don't back up your claims against bloom.

  • 01.17.2012 9:38 AM PDT

Walk by faith. Dude. Not by sight.

I recommend Skyrim.

  • 01.17.2012 9:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: MR E0S
Also, if bloom was so detrimental, and just a toss up with Bloom enabled.

How come everyone isn't sitting on 1.0 K/D with the weapon?
Since according to you Bloom is the great equalizer that completely eliminated the skill gap.

Why was it that certain people could pull 2.0 K/D ratios with that weapon. and other people are completely opposite of that.

Even the numbers don't back up your claims against bloom.


Wow. There's more than just shooting to take into the equation.
Are you really that dumb?

  • 01.17.2012 9:40 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

THAT IS EXACTLY MY POINT SOUTHPOLE YOU -blam!- IDIOT!

There is more involved in the equation which means all your claims against bloom, are -blam!- retarded!

Because every time I see someone -blam!- about bloom, the only thing they account for is two people just standing there spamming at each other.

Now throw teammates into the equation
Now throw cover into the equation
Thow health into the equation
Grenades.
Shields
etc
etc.



[Edited on 01.17.2012 9:46 AM PST]

  • 01.17.2012 9:42 AM PDT

I'm out.


Posted by: MR E0S
THAT IS EXACTLY MY POINT SOUTHPOLE YOU -blam!- IDIOT!

There is more involved in the equation which means all your claims against bloom, are -blam!- retarded!


I want you to read that to yourself again and figure out on your own why what you're saying is absolutely retarded.

  • 01.17.2012 9:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Are you being serious right now? Like, for real? I don't see how you can be this stupid.

  • 01.17.2012 9:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
Also, if bloom was so detrimental, and just a toss up with Bloom enabled.


Why are you dealing in absolutes? Evil sith lord?


Aiming is still the biggest factor in the outcome of a DMR battle even with bloom. Bloom just adds more randomness.

Randomness means it is luck that determines the outcome of the battle.

Let me say that one more time. Randomness means luck determines the outcome of the battle.

We do not want luck to determine the outcome of the battle, we want our aiming skill to do that.

  • 01.17.2012 9:47 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I love how you play ignorant and try to pass it off as though I'm the ignorant one.

I'm done, You are no longer worth my time. GOODBYE!

  • 01.17.2012 9:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
I love how you play ignorant and try to pass it off as though I'm the ignorant one.

I'm done, You are no longer worth my time. GOODBYE!


He didn't say ignorant, he said stupid.

You are a stupid human being. You're ignorant as well, though.

  • 01.17.2012 9:49 AM PDT

Lol

Teamwork does not equal skill, teamwork = commonsense. Seriously a lot of people don't understand the difference between the two. Skill is your own individual ability, teamwork is what you should be doing in a team game. Teamwork should not be the only DECIDING factory when it comes to a victory or defeat. You should have good individual ability before you even become an asset to your team.

  • 01.17.2012 9:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Killer4785
Teamwork does not equal skill, teamwork = commonsense. Seriously a lot of people don't understand the difference between the two. Skill is your own individual ability, teamwork is what you should be doing in a team game. Teamwork should not be the only DECIDING factory when it comes to a victory or defeat. You should have good individual ability before you even become an asset to your team.


...This
ZB creates the individual skill gap, like I said earlier.

  • 01.17.2012 10:00 AM PDT

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I don't think you understand this game very well...

  • 01.17.2012 10:17 AM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
tl;dr

Mr Eos or whatever has downs.
I think he's actually a troll, but I'm not 100%.

  • 01.17.2012 10:25 AM PDT