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Subject: Controller button configurations USING ALL 4 TRIGGERS!!
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Hey there, this topic is about Controller configuration, it will discuss some formats of different configurations and the possibility of custom settings. All of it is about the button settings.

Now, let's take what we know for Halo 3, we know that it will probably feature grenades, melee's, shooting, scoping, jumping, reloading, switching weapons, switching grenades, maybe a flashlight, a button to talk to team mates and crouching.
It might feature different melee's because of the success of beat-down styles from Halo 2.

The most ideal thing would be to be able to configure all of your buttons, but if that isn't an option then I would like to at least throw these ideas in the world.

On the 360 controller there are 2 triggers and 2 sort of triggers and we all know that people rather not let go of their thumbsticks when they want to shoot, melee, grenade, scope, jump and crouch, so how about the two triggers to the left side of you controller are melee and nading, and the ones on the right are scoping and shooting.
This gives the player so much more control then having the half-triggers being grenade switching and team chatter. The one thumbstick could then be crouching when pressed while the other can be jumping when pressed.

This means that there is just grenade switching, weapon switching, reloading and team speak to be spread over the buttons. If Team speak and grenade switching then can go on the D-pad, then you have the weapon buttons weapon switching and reloading still on the 4 buttons, which means there are still two buttons left unconfigured.

These could maybe be used for a seperate button to pick up dual wields or just other new stuff like different melee's or a button to throw down your current weapon for your team mates.

I think the 4 triggers should be used optimal and the D-pad should be given a non-weapon function as well. This way the player is more in control and battles will be more high-paced.

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  • 05.14.2006 9:36 AM PDT

No. That would be ghey.

  • 05.14.2006 9:39 AM PDT
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No. That would be ghey.


You could get blacklisted for trying to bypass the language filter you know...

  • 05.14.2006 9:41 AM PDT
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O rly, care to ellaborate why that would be homo-blam!-?

  • 05.14.2006 9:42 AM PDT

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  • 05.14.2006 9:42 AM PDT

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The two small triggers are basically more ergonomic locations for the former Black and White buttons.

  • 05.14.2006 9:43 AM PDT
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Im basically asking for bungie to have more button control in Halo 3 and using the current team speak and grenade switch buttons to active elements of gameplay, such as melee-ing and scoping.

Exactly ninja, then to enhance the gameplay, have those buttons being active elements, maybe returning the Halo 1 jumpy button layout where one trigger could be the jump button.
Profiles as such.

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  • 05.14.2006 9:43 AM PDT

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It would appeal to many people, but make it optional.

Personally I wanna keep my default config.

  • 05.14.2006 9:44 AM PDT
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I think you forgot jumping.

Also, if you occupy the D-Pad, then taht means that it would be impossible to make Halo 3 have commands in it

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Good points einx, I didnt forget jumping, but yeah, commands aye. I'd sacrifice my weapon dropping and dual wield pick up for that ;)

  • 05.14.2006 9:45 AM PDT

Why use one of the triggers for scoping when you've can just push in on the analog like you do now? I mean, if we are talking about not wanting to take your fingers off the analog to do other things, then I think we've already solved that problem with scoping in. Personally, I'd rather keep jumping on the "A" button. It seems more intuitive and never real bothered me. It's the melee on the "B" button that always screws me up. Because when you are hitting "B" you can't aim to land your punch.


I agree with you about putting team speak and grenade switching on the D-Pad to free up the shoulder buttons. That makes alot of sense.

I think the triggers should do what they do now (Grenades and Single Weapon OR Duel Wielding). I suppose one of the shoulder buttons (the right one possibly) could be melee. I'm not sure what the left one could be...

  • 05.14.2006 9:46 AM PDT

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I think you forgot jumping.

Also, if you occupy the D-Pad, then taht means that it would be impossible to make Halo 3 have commands in it



That'd be a plus in my book. Halo has always been great in its simplicity and streamlined interface. It's not a squad based tactical shooter, nor should it be. We've got enough of those in Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six.

Just my opinion


  • 05.14.2006 9:50 AM PDT

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from what i read, i prefer the normal format layout of the buttons.

  • 05.14.2006 9:51 AM PDT
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No, the controller config is perfect as it is, that would change up everything and it really wouldent help anything.

  • 05.14.2006 9:54 AM PDT
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sorry but i think the buttons for halo 2 on 360 are the best for halo 3

  • 05.14.2006 9:54 AM PDT
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I get what you're getting at woodsie, and I am just suggesting button layouts.
However, my settings aren't random, I'd ask for scoping to be a seperate button next to shooting, because when you press down your analog stick you can't espcape from also wiggling it a bit, thus setting your aim of slightly, next to the shooting button then feels intuitive. Hence the right shoulder button being scoping, but then again, it can also be jumping for the jump profile.

I don't think there are many people who will complain about both having melees and grenades on two triggers next to eachother.
Then there could be grenade and melee profiles with as only real difference what happens when you dual wield and then press the old team speak button, with the grenade profile, you'd throw a punch since the button for grenades is the full trigger, but when you hit that button while dual wielding with the melee profile, you'd throw a grenade.

I think customizability is the real deal and that it is best to let people customize their own settings so they can combine all the benefits about what feels best for them, triggers left or right, melees, scopes, jumps, grenades shooting or just everything default.

I really hope noone has to claw in Halo 3 ;)

  • 05.14.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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hawkeye and bodanarko, I think you guys are just in denial when you are saying that the current setings are the best possible settings out there, because there is really no denying that having all four triggers be active battle buttons would not benefit gameplay.

I do guess that for some people like yourselves who have never changed their button settings and are still playing on default look sensitivity that there should be a Halo2 profile of choice, but for all of those so desperate with all the button placements right now that they are turning their wrists and feet in awkward positions to get all the buttons without loosing control I think there should be customizability.

  • 05.14.2006 10:00 AM PDT

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It may be an interesting way to try, say This:

Grenade (Dual) ---------- Main Gun
Jump ------------------------ Melee

Then we could have normal stick functions, and remap the regular buttons to 'management' functions like swapping grenade types, weapon swapping, and special operations (Flipping warthogs and switches)

  • 05.14.2006 10:06 AM PDT
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Exactly, as long as the non-management buttons are always in reach.
Then people can customize how they like it best.

  • 05.14.2006 10:34 AM PDT
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im making this with "forget teamspeak cause its dumb in the first place" methods. this is what i would love:

Lthumbclick: Crouch (shouldn't have to hold to stay crouched [maybe prone as well?])
Rthumbclick: Zoom
RT: Fire
RB: Melee
LT: Grenade
LB: Switch Grenade
A: Jump
B: Flashlight (Nightvision, Arbiter Camo, whatever they do)
X: Action/Reload
Y: Switch Weapon
D-Pad: Commands

tell me what you think.



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  • 05.14.2006 10:55 AM PDT

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  • 05.14.2006 11:02 AM PDT
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i have a better idea. make it so you can chose what you want each button to do. for example, if for some odd reason you wanted the A button to make you scope in you could do that, having a completly custom set up for buttons would make every one happy i think.

  • 05.14.2006 11:03 AM PDT
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I liked the controls for halo: CE/Halo 2.

  • 05.14.2006 11:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: elah cixlysyd
i have a better idea. make it so you can chose what you want each button to do. for example, if for some odd reason you wanted the A button to make you scope in you could do that, having a completly custom set up for buttons would make every one happy i think.

Thank you!!! All customization for the buttons like in Starwars Battlefront. If I want to put any button anywhere to do any thing I want to have that ability to do it. If I want to shoot with the A button I should be allow to do it. It should be all customizable to get the best feeling that I want! Not preprogramed button layouts that we have now but all buttons should be free to place anywhere we dang well please.

  • 05.14.2006 11:23 AM PDT

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