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Subject: The wraith is superior to the scorpion

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

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I almost always choose the wraith over the scoprion, here's why

1. Its faster
2. It fires mortars faster
3. It can push ghosts around and off cliffs
4. Splatters
6. Because marines cannot drive wraiths, choosing the wraith means that the marines can take the scorpion and you can both rampage down the area in two heavy vehicles. If you choose the scorpion, you will have to destroy the wraith, leaving you with just one heavy vehicle.
7. Its more fun to use

Places you can choose wraiths over scorpions

The beginning of Metropolis is way more fun in a wraith. You can speed down the highway pushing everything out of the way and spam plasma mortars. With a scorpion, you trundle along slowly

Delta Halo, after the light bridge, take the wraith and the marines can take the scorpion and you can both go on a rampage

So that is why i think the wraith is far superior to the scorpion, and it would be way more fun if pelicans brought you wraiths instead of scorpions even though that doesnt make any sense

[Edited on 01.19.2012 3:39 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2012 3:39 PM PDT

I agree that the Wraith is a fun vehicle, but I'm not sure how practical it is. It has a knack for taking out ghosts, yes, but it lacks the bang in the boom that the scorpion delivers. It also lacks range, which makes the scorpion better for both the New Mombasa city bridge and the bulk of Delta Halo.

If we were discussing this in Halo 3 I would probably agree as I like the overall control better than H2, despite people saying in reality there is none.

  • 01.19.2012 3:48 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

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Posted by: InvasionImminent
I agree that the Wraith is a fun vehicle, but I'm not sure how practical it is. It has a knack for taking out ghosts, yes, but it lacks the bang in the boom that the scorpion delivers. It also lacks range, which makes the scorpion better for both the New Mombasa city bridge and the bulk of Delta Halo.

If we were discussing this in Halo 3 I would probably agree as I like the overall control better than H2, despite people saying in reality there is none.


It doesnt have as much range, but its faster so you can close in on your targets quicker

Also you dont have to wait for the the main gun to re charge like the scorpion

The thing i dont like about the Halo 3 wrauth is that hi jacking one means giving it a hell of a lot of damage before the driver dies. In halo 2, you do relatively little damage to it before you can drive it.

  • 01.19.2012 3:53 PM PDT
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The Wraith is superior. I agree.

But in CE and Reach, no. The Wraith is just a big target in those games.

  • 01.19.2012 4:24 PM PDT
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My answer depends on the level of difficulty that you are playing at:

On all but Legendary the Wraith is an attainable vehicle in most circumstance. It has some advatages in how quickly it can put our rounds, and the fact that its chassis is lower to the ground and more rounded gives it advantages in certain terrain or obstacle moving,

On Legendary, trying to get to most of the boardable wraiths is just a death sentance. Either their anti personnel fire takes you out, or something in the accompanying enemies. During Legendary play there is a huge advantage in having the ability to fire longer distances. The wraiths limited accuracy and firing range makes it the weaker of the two in those circumstances.

What is cool about the wraiths plasma rounds when Sputnik is active is how much splatter and scatter you get from the detonations! You can blow -blam!- off the map at times, which is a great way of neutralizing the enemy! It is alot of fun to watch just how far you can throw stuff that way, very good times, indeedy!

  • 01.19.2012 5:54 PM PDT


Posted by: womyfts
My answer depends on the level of difficulty that you are playing at:

On all but Legendary the Wraith is an attainable vehicle in most circumstance. It has some advatages in how quickly it can put our rounds, and the fact that its chassis is lower to the ground and more rounded gives it advantages in certain terrain or obstacle moving,

On Legendary, trying to get to most of the boardable wraiths is just a death sentance. Either their anti personnel fire takes you out, or something in the accompanying enemies. During Legendary play there is a huge advantage in having the ability to fire longer distances. The wraiths limited accuracy and firing range makes it the weaker of the two in those circumstances.

What is cool about the wraiths plasma rounds when Sputnik is active is how much splatter and scatter you get from the detonations! You can blow -blam!- off the map at times, which is a great way of neutralizing the enemy! It is alot of fun to watch just how far you can throw stuff that way, very good times, indeedy!
Yeah, depends, on DH what is the weapon to take out the Wraiths? Scorpion lol.

On Metropolis, on Legendary, in a Scorpion I can shoot the Banshee's at the beginning of the tunnel without fear. With a Wraith you have to get fairly close, close enough so that you will die by Banshee. I've never tried having the Marines take on those Banshee's while I drive a Wraith.

Scorpion will outshoot a Wraith at long distance hands down but that's about it except maybe the Wraith has no usable machine gun.

  • 01.19.2012 6:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Grumpy1
the Wraith has no usable machine gun.

This is why the scorpion is better than the wraith.

  • 01.19.2012 6:48 PM PDT

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But the Scorpion has 1 thing the Wraith doesn't, range.

  • 01.19.2012 7:18 PM PDT

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The scorpion has a few things that make it better than the wraith:
Range as mentioned above.
Stronger shot.
Easier to take out aircraft.
Machine guns.

  • 01.19.2012 7:35 PM PDT
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The reason why I like the Wraith is because I feel it's a lot more tactical. With some decent cover, you're pretty much invulnerable.

Against Banshees,

You're basically a sitting duck in the Scorpion when you're up against Mythic enhanced Banshees on Legendary (i.e. on Metropolis). I had to resort to hijacking a Banshee and shooting down the other Banshee with it. But in the Wraith, you have a lot more options. All you need is decent cover.

  • 01.19.2012 10:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The reason why I like the Wraith is because I feel it's a lot more tactical. With some decent cover, you're pretty much invulnerable.

Against Banshees,

You're basically a sitting duck in the Scorpion when you're up against Mythic enhanced Banshees on Legendary (i.e. on Metropolis). I had to resort to hijacking a Banshee and shooting down the other Banshee with it. But in the Wraith, you have a lot more options. All you need is decent cover.
I can shoot the Banshees at the tunnel without taking one hit. I can shoot the Banshees on DH without taking a hit so I think long range works for me. You just have to be a good shot.

The first two Banshees on the bridge are another matter altogether. The Scorpion doesn't work there for me.

  • 01.19.2012 10:09 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

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One thing I don't like about the Halo 2 wraith is the lack of controlling the side guns

But the ability to spam plasma mortars makes up for it

  • 01.20.2012 8:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mark V guy
One thing I don't like about the Halo 2 wraith is the lack of controlling the side guns

But the ability to spam plasma mortars makes up for it
Agreed. And let's not forget it's awesome ramming ability. I like the Wraith mostly because I feel safe in it.

  • 01.20.2012 11:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Mark V guy
One thing I don't like about the Halo 2 wraith is the lack of controlling the side guns

But the ability to spam plasma mortars makes up for it
Agreed. And let's not forget it's awesome ramming ability. I like the Wraith mostly because I feel safe in it.


Same here, and unlike Halo 3 you dont have to bash it until its on fire to hi jack it

Its fun to push and destroy ghosts and infantry.

  • 01.20.2012 11:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mark V guy

Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Mark V guy
One thing I don't like about the Halo 2 wraith is the lack of controlling the side guns

But the ability to spam plasma mortars makes up for it
Agreed. And let's not forget it's awesome ramming ability. I like the Wraith mostly because I feel safe in it.


Same here, and unlike Halo 3 you dont have to bash it until its on fire to hi jack it

Its fun to push and destroy ghosts and infantry.
In H3, you could just go on top of the Wraith and melee the hatch off. With Tilt on, you can bash it without it catching fire.

And of course, you can flip the Wraith. Or deload the enemies in the Wraith.

In Reach, you can just go in the turret.

And I agree.

[Edited on 01.20.2012 1:31 PM PST]

  • 01.20.2012 1:30 PM PDT

If you didn't Play Halo: CE or Halo 2 MP, your opinion about Halo means nada.

CE + H2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> H3+Reach+H4

Are you talking about in H2 MP or just in general...

  • 01.21.2012 1:25 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: XxNigHTsNiPe
Are you talking about in H2 MP or just in general...


Halo 2 campaign

In Halo 3 the scopion is my preffered choice

  • 01.21.2012 6:14 PM PDT

scorpion all the way for me. halo 2 scorpion was my most favourite

  • 01.21.2012 7:16 PM PDT

my fav. is reach version. way better traction and heavy duty

  • 01.21.2012 7:19 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

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Posted by: floodsniper1137
my fav. is reach version. way better traction and heavy duty


I dont like the Reach eraion because it is slower and fire mortars slower

  • 01.22.2012 2:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mark V guy

Posted by: floodsniper1137
my fav. is reach version. way better traction and heavy duty


I dont like the Reach eraion because it is slower and fire mortars slower
I think he was replying to Lethal Drone. I think he means that the Reach Scorpion has good traction in addition to a powerful shot and decent armor (at least in campaign). And it's fast.

But I agree, the Reach Wraith is horribly slow in everything and you're extremely vulnerable.

[Edited on 01.22.2012 9:25 AM PST]

  • 01.22.2012 9:22 AM PDT
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My name is Dan. Kid who hacked me made this username. I use two accounts here and whichever one I'm on is the last one I messaged off of xbox.com

Around the beginning of the video, the articulate user explains the wraith in halo 2

  • 01.22.2012 2:52 PM PDT


Posted by: alexanderhernand
Around the beginning of the video, the articulate user explains the wraith in halo 2
No relevance, just like your opinion.

Suggestion, go find a game you can play and post there.

[Edited on 01.23.2012 12:15 AM PST]

  • 01.22.2012 3:37 PM PDT

After thinking about it for several days I'll have to give the nod to the Wraith but it depends mostly on how I'll use it. For tricking the Wraith has a lot more traction for getting off-level.

  • 01.22.2012 6:26 PM PDT

It's less accurate
It glitches more often than the Scorpion
You're more likely to crash off of a cliff with it
How come only the aliens get to use the turrets? (Not the Arbiter)
The Scorpion doesn't suffer from lack of turret use
The Wraith is more vulnerable to destruction
The Wraith allows for your own men to easily get killed even when you are on board
The Wraith can't drive over any obstacles including the first underground half-open gate in Metropolis once you enter the tunnel, but the Scorpion can
The Wraith can kill you even AFTER it has been destroyed because of its equally fatal second explosion

I do not support the Wraith.

  • 01.26.2012 7:57 PM PDT

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