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but the current forms of the flood already exsist.

  • 05.14.2006 5:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: julius_ceaser
but the current forms of the flood already exsist.


Do they?

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ok, for example all the flood in high charity at the end of halo 2 will not die if the halo's are activated, so they could ride to another galaxy in high charity and affect everything there.

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Remember in the Halo 3 trailer there was that big excavation? And how in Halo: CE The Monitor said that the Master Chief had already activated the ring? What if the Forerunners home was Earth, and they never left and that thing the Covies were excavating was a sort of safe house? The Humans are the Forerunners? Maybe. Just a thought to think about.

  • 05.14.2006 5:16 PM PDT
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Eh?

That, is exactly what I always thought. Well...the part about humans being the forerunners. It makes perfect sense when you take into account all the sly hints in the games and the books. But, as it said in Halo CE...forerunnners went kaboom when the activated the ring. Soooo......0_o

  • 05.14.2006 5:18 PM PDT

"Who is the happier man - he who has braved the storm of life and lived, or he who was content to sit on shore and merely exist?" - Hunter S. Thompson

I don't think that the Flood have the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. If I remember correctly, Nylund's description of how the flood thinks are very primally based. Food, kill, sleep. Mostly food, though. It's like leaving a man on a deserted island and killing anything that he could use to survive, and then leaving him there. It's like that, except, they were trying to kill the whole world, just in case he got lucky enough to get off the island.

  • 05.14.2006 5:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: julius_ceaser
ok, for example all the flood in high charity at the end of halo 2 will not die if the halo's are activated, so they could ride to another galaxy in high charity and affect everything there.


The Infection forms would die, but would the Combat forms?

I don't think that the Flood have the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. If I remember correctly, Nylund's description of how the flood thinks are very primally based. Food, kill, sleep. Mostly food, though. It's like leaving a man on a deserted island and killing anything that he could use to survive, and then leaving him there. It's like that, except, they were trying to kill the whole world, just in case he got lucky enough to get off the island.

The flood do the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. They can fly Pelicans and they flew In Amber Clad. The flood were also probably preparing to fly the Truth and Reconciliation off Alpha Halo

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ok, for example all the flood in high charity at the end of halo 2 will not die if the halo's are activated, so they could ride to another galaxy in high charity and affect everything there.


The Infection forms would die, but would the Combat forms?

I don't think that the Flood have the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. If I remember correctly, Nylund's description of how the flood thinks are very primally based. Food, kill, sleep. Mostly food, though. It's like leaving a man on a deserted island and killing anything that he could use to survive, and then leaving him there. It's like that, except, they were trying to kill the whole world, just in case he got lucky enough to get off the island.

The flood do the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. They can fly Pelicans and they flew In Amber Clad. The flood were also probably preparing to fly the Truth and Reconciliation off Alpha Halo


If the Flood are smart enough to pilot the T and R then they probably could use High Charity.

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Posted by: julius_ceaser
This once mighty and powerful race built seven worlds on rings surely they had the technolgy to travel to another galaxy?


Or to build a safe haven inside a slipspace bubble.

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Possibly in another Galaxy or another Universe, but they aren't in our galaxy.

A slipspace bubble wouldn't be in a specific galaxy would it?

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Posted by: Cursus Honorum
I don't think that the Flood have the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. If I remember correctly, Nylund's description of how the flood thinks are very primally based. Food, kill, sleep. Mostly food, though. It's like leaving a man on a deserted island and killing anything that he could use to survive, and then leaving him there. It's like that, except, they were trying to kill the whole world, just in case he got lucky enough to get off the island.
Actually its more like leaveing a retard on an island with stuff he needs to survive with he just dosnt know how.

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I don't think that the Flood have the capacity for intelligence to be able to operate a ship. If I remember correctly, Nylund's description of how the flood thinks are very primally based. Food, kill, sleep. Mostly food, though. It's like leaving a man on a deserted island and killing anything that he could use to survive, and then leaving him there. It's like that, except, they were trying to kill the whole world, just in case he got lucky enough to get off the island.
Actually its more like leaveing a retard on an island with stuff he needs to survive with he just dosnt know how.


If you boil down human thought processes they are all about shelter, food, and reproduction and survival. The Flood can pilot ships, if they were as stupid as you say then the Forerunners would have destroyed them easily.

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hmm hand secret room, eye..... someone pressing a button they are looking at in a secret room that activates all the halos.... ok yeah the forunner, probly dead but i do hope to see maybe one in halo 3 just so i can find out who they are

  • 05.14.2006 5:51 PM PDT

"Who is the happier man - he who has braved the storm of life and lived, or he who was content to sit on shore and merely exist?" - Hunter S. Thompson

Not necessarily, since brains isn't the only thing necessary to survival. Often times, creatures with pure brute strength are able to survive in harsh environments and against adversity without much forthought. The flood combat forms are very strong, and hard to kill with normal projectile rounds, unless you empty half of your clip into them. The infection forms I can see as being easily exterminated, but not the combat forms.

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Posted by: Cursus Honorum
Not necessarily, since brains isn't the only thing necessary to survival. Often times, creatures with pure brute strength are able to survive in harsh environments and against adversity without much forthought. The flood combat forms are very strong, and hard to kill with normal projectile rounds, unless you empty half of your clip into them. The infection forms I can see as being easily exterminated, but not the combat forms.


You do know that Gravemind speaks in iambic pentameter right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.

  • 05.14.2006 6:01 PM PDT
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It's all good.

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Remember in the Halo 3 trailer there was that big excavation? And how in Halo: CE The Monitor said that the Master Chief had already activated the ring? What if the Forerunners home was Earth, and they never left and that thing the Covies were excavating was a sort of safe house? The Humans are the Forerunners? Maybe. Just a thought to think about.


I believe frimly the Humans ARE the Forrunners. If you dissagree they why can only a Human actviate a Halo Instilation?

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They're getting drunk on the 19th hole after a full match of killing the flood.

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[quote]Posted by: DarkIceman2003
Remember in the Halo 3 trailer there was that big excavation? And how in Halo: CE The Monitor said that the Master Chief had already activated the ring? What if the Forerunners home was Earth, and they never left and that thing the Covies were excavating was a sort of safe house? The Humans are the Forerunners? Maybe. Just a thought to think about.



343 said that the Master Cheif had asked him about activating the rings before, he didnt say that Master Cheif activated them 100,000 years ago

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Posted by: Bezerko
You do know that Gravemind speaks in ?iambic pentameter? right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.

"iambic pentameter?" What?

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You do know that Gravemind speaks in ?iambic pentameter? right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.

"iambic pentameter?" What?


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We kinda got off topic this was about where the Forerunner are not if the Flood are inteligent.

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  • 05.14.2006 6:25 PM PDT

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Not necessarily, since brains isn't the only thing necessary to survival. Often times, creatures with pure brute strength are able to survive in harsh environments and against adversity without much forthought. The flood combat forms are very strong, and hard to kill with normal projectile rounds, unless you empty half of your clip into them. The infection forms I can see as being easily exterminated, but not the combat forms.


You do know that Gravemind speaks in iambic pentameter right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.


I've only been to the end of Halo 2 once. I've been kinda busy with life. But you apprently paid more attention in English Lit. than I did, which is sad, since I'm a writer. But is Gravemind necessarily part of the Flood, or is he a different species all together?

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The Flood dont attack him and he seems to be on their side so I would say he is part of the Flood.

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Yeah, I've always been a little bit puzzled by the Gravemind: I mean, he sends out the Arbiter and the Master Chief to go do his bidding, but the Flood still end up attacking them after he sends them out! That's a little strange, and seems to suggest that the Gravemind is not totally Flood, or at least not totally in control of the Flood. At the same time, though, he has that one prophet attached to his tentacle (no puns please), and that prophet died by the Flood, which totally started to eat him. Thus, perhaps the Gravemind is not totally able to control the Flood, sort of like an evolved form of the Flood, but not necessarily their leader? Or perhaps he's a "combat form," but of some werid, highly intelligent race that looks like a giant plant? Nah.

As for where the Forerunner are, I'd say Earth, which is to say, they're all dead (and only humans, their descendants, still exist). Of course, the prophets somehow managed to survive the activation of the Halos. I mean, the three prophets are direct descendants of the prophet species that (as the books say) evolved on the same planet as the Forerunner, side by side. So, somehow, the prophet species survived. Thus, why not humans too (except somehow, unlike the prophets, we lost the technology that the Forerunner gave us)?

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Not necessarily, since brains isn't the only thing necessary to survival. Often times, creatures with pure brute strength are able to survive in harsh environments and against adversity without much forthought. The flood combat forms are very strong, and hard to kill with normal projectile rounds, unless you empty half of your clip into them. The infection forms I can see as being easily exterminated, but not the combat forms.


You do know that Gravemind speaks in iambic pentameter right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.


I've only been to the end of Halo 2 once. I've been kinda busy with life. But you apprently paid more attention in English Lit. than I did, which is sad, since I'm a writer. But is Gravemind necessarily part of the Flood, or is he a different species all together?

My question is what was he before he became a flood?! *gasp* maybe he is truely the last forunner! like in (back to morrowind and dwemer) how the last dwemer was struck sick, so he was unable to do all his dwemerish stuff! lol, same thing here last forunnre kept his mindish, but not truelly what is race is

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Posted by: Cursus Honorum
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Not necessarily, since brains isn't the only thing necessary to survival. Often times, creatures with pure brute strength are able to survive in harsh environments and against adversity without much forthought. The flood combat forms are very strong, and hard to kill with normal projectile rounds, unless you empty half of your clip into them. The infection forms I can see as being easily exterminated, but not the combat forms.


You do know that Gravemind speaks in iambic pentameter right? He also fooled the Master Cheif and the Arbiter.


I've only been to the end of Halo 2 once. I've been kinda busy with life. But you apprently paid more attention in English Lit. than I did, which is sad, since I'm a writer. But is Gravemind necessarily part of the Flood, or is he a different species all together?


Gravemind is flood. It is made up of the bodies of the floods enemies and fallen combat forms.

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