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I'm not criticizing campaign saying its bad. It is very good in Halo and fun to play. But Multiplayer is MORE IMPORTANT when designing a game, as that is what people will do longer.

  • 05.14.2006 9:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: UNEXPECTED62
I'm not criticizing campaign saying its bad. It is very good in Halo and fun to play. But Multiplayer is MORE IMPORTANT when designing a game, as that is what people will do longer.


But, MP is designed around the story, it isnt the central factor, it is what will keep people playing longer, sure, but Bungie are game creaters, they want their ideas about the halo franchise furthered, they care foremost about the story of Halo, not the MP.

  • 05.14.2006 9:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: UNEXPECTED62
I'm not criticizing campaign saying its bad. It is very good in Halo and fun to play. But Multiplayer is MORE IMPORTANT when designing a game, as that is what people will do longer.


Well, this is how it goes:

Story: Makes you buy the game in the first place.

Multiplayer: Has you playing and enjoying yourself until the next installment comes around.

Story makes you buy it, multiplayer makes you keep it.

  • 05.14.2006 9:35 PM PDT
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I agree 100% ! I would not give a rip if Halo 3 didn't have single player. That is not why it is so well known. Sure the hardcore fans like the story, but what made it so popular is the multiplayer. I hope they put a ton of darn effort into multiplayer, even if it means relasing multiplayer seperately to spend more time on it.

  • 05.14.2006 10:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: UNEXPECTED62
Campaign is a good part to any game, a story driven plot and action packed gameplay are all important for single player. However, the thing that always gives a game staying power is the Multiplayer. I still play Halo 1 XBC, over 4 years after the game came out. I dumped Halo 2 nearly altogether. If Halo 3 wants to be successful, it won't be about the campaign, it will be about Multiplayer. In order to have a successful multiplayer, the original M6D Pistol from Halo 1 has to be in the game, or a weapon with similar dominance (for example, the pistol, but skinned as a two handed rifle so that it can't be dueled) in order to balance gameplay. If Halo 2's Battle Rifle fired single shots and had a slower rate of fire like Halo 1's pistol, and was capable of doing a three-hit kill if all shots were at the head, as well as longer range, Halo 2 would have been much better. Burial Mounds, Coagulation, all the maps that were too big to enjoy without having a sniper would have been sooo much better. Halo 3 needs one thing to be good. The Pistol.


01. Halo 2's multiplayer is successful and doesn't have the Pistol. Your theory is dead wrong and biased.

02. Battle Rifle is FOUR SHOTS to kill another player; Pistol was THREE

Lastly, Pistol has greater range.

  • 05.14.2006 10:11 PM PDT
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Bungie cars more for the story a hell of a lot more than it does for multiplayer. If you like to play through games just to kill things and not to figure out the story, well, that isnt Bungies fault.

  • 05.14.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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Campaign is more important for me, I play Halo for a good story and stay for the gameplay. If I was only after Gameplay and not story I would play Doom.

  • 05.14.2006 10:26 PM PDT
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Who Cares About Campaign

I do.

  • 05.14.2006 10:29 PM PDT
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Are you serious? I play campaign 50 times before I start playing multiplayer, the campaign is the best part of the game because it's the accually story to it. Btw, I care about the campaign to answer your question. I hope Bungie spends a lot of time to make the campaign great for Halo 3. Another cool thing would to have co-op on Xbox Live with your friends. xD

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I wouldn't mind if they left the MP entirely off and used that space for extra levels in SP.

I care about the story more than I care about Multiplayer.

I know I suck at mp but I still play it, but plot is more important to me.

Hopefully you people could finally get over the pistol, it's gone, finished, not coming back. it was in Halo 1, that's it.

I love Halo because it's story is close to be as complicate and has multiple twists like FF7 and other Final Fantasy games have/had. That is what I like and want to see, a great story and multiple characters. Not just some random noobs in MP shouting/whining on the microphone while bridging and modding, thus ruining my day.

  • 05.14.2006 10:52 PM PDT

online co-op with 4+ players will give even more replay value

  • 05.14.2006 11:07 PM PDT
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What about lag?

  • 05.14.2006 11:08 PM PDT

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I go back and play Halo's campaign all the way through about twice a year, it's just that good.

In my opinion, Halo:CE's campaign was better. The plot twists were genuinely surprising and the pacing was great. In Halo 2, big chunks of the story seemed like quick hashes. The moment of discovery of Delta Halo played out like this: "Hey, whoa, there's another Halo! Oh, wait, that's not surprising at all, and I definitely guessed it was coming at the start of this 15 second cut-scene. Hmm, that was damn underdeveloped, oh well."

The lack of any real climax didn't help either, and the last fight and cutscene on Delta Halo seemed like filler stuff before the cliffhanger.

And oh ya, I have to include this story. I once watched a bunch of little kids who had played Halo once or twice, if ever, play a 14 player game on Battle Creek. They were getting 5-6 shot kills consistanty with the pistol, and were simultaneously getting so excited they'd lose any real dexterity and fall off their chairs.
Moral: Any idiot can get easy kills with the pistol, the truly skillful 3-shot doesn't even matter, you just have to shoot first. To say that it made the game is woefully stupid.

  • 05.14.2006 11:15 PM PDT

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I go back and play Halo's campaign all the way through about twice a year, it's just that good.

In my opinion, Halo:CE's campaign was better. The plot twists were genuinely surprising and the pacing was great. In Halo 2, big chunks of the story seemed like quick hashes. The moment of discovery of Delta Halo played out like this: "Hey, whoa, there's another Halo! Oh, wait, that's not surprising at all, and I definitely guessed it was coming at the start of this 15 second cut-scene. Hmm, that was damn underdeveloped, oh well."

The lack of any real climax didn't help either, and the last fight and cutscene on Delta Halo seemed like filler stuff before the cliffhanger.

And oh ya, I have to include this story. I once watched a bunch of little kids who had played Halo once or twice, if ever, play a 14 player game on Battle Creek. They were getting 5-6 shot kills consistanty with the pistol, and were simultaneously getting so excited they'd lose any real dexterity and fall off their chairs.
Moral: Any idiot can get easy kills with the pistol, the truly skillful 3-shot doesn't even matter, you just have to shoot first. To say that it made the game is woefully stupid.

Yea, i loved Halo 1's campaign. But while playing Halo 2's it felt like a chore. It really wasnt fun

  • 05.14.2006 11:18 PM PDT

Who says the two have to be separate?

Multiplayer PLUS Campaign = Co-Op Love.

I'd be fine with two players, but I'd love to see four player co-op over Xbox Live.

  • 05.14.2006 11:19 PM PDT
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Uhhh . . . Everyone but you cares about campaign, apparently. I know I care a great deal about the campaign.

  • 05.14.2006 11:23 PM PDT

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Campaign is the Hook of any good game...MP is just the longer laster fresher feeling for games...especially Halo...I wonder what the stats are for people still play Halo 2 onilne...more than any other game im sure cuz 75% of my Flist still is on Halo 2...

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without campaign halo would be nothing....

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what is Halo if there isnt a canpaign...that doesnt even make sence, they could just remain on Halo 1 forever with upgrades and no story at all

  • 05.14.2006 11:27 PM PDT

Posted by: guy la deoche
Campaign is the Hook of any good game...MP is just the longer laster fresher feeling for games...especially Halo...I wonder what the stats are for people still play Halo 2 onilne...more than any other game im sure cuz 75% of my Flist still is on Halo 2...


Only like 2 of my friends still play H2. The rest have moved on to the 360

  • 05.14.2006 11:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: guy la deoche
Campaign is the Hook of any good game...MP is just the longer laster fresher feeling for games...especially Halo...I wonder what the stats are for people still play Halo 2 onilne...more than any other game im sure cuz 75% of my Flist still is on Halo 2...


Only like 2 of my friends still play H2. The rest have moved on to the 360


the 360 is not a game..you can still play Halo 2 on the 360....

and more than half of my friends till play halo 2...and a lot of them have 360s

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