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Nice theory, it is diffirent. I wonder though, what if the Flood were tampered orcreated by the Forerunner (or another source and Forerunner simply study them) to make a perfect soldier?

To make the perfect army you need soldiers with intelligence (yep, they can repair/pilot vehicles), can follow orders (I believe Gravemind has a means to control them, why not the creators?) you need strength and numbers (*ticks box*) and your soldiers need to be motivated.

What better way to motivate such a creature than with an unquenchable, undieing 'hunger'? If all your men lust for is the enemy then they would fight to the end of time.
Perhaps the creators of the Flood (forerunner or otherwise) instilled a 'hunger' on them?

They wouldnt want the Halo's to fire because they would be forever hungry. It may not be any diffirent to what happens if the Halo does fire, but it would be the world of diffirence to Gravemind and his mates.

Just a theory I dont expect will be right but anyway...

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the flood knew what they were doing in halo CE. we know this because

1. they were repairing the Truth and Reconsiliaton
2. they knew someone would attempt to reclaim the key, so they camped out the library in anticipation of someone trying to take it.
3. they attacked the POA and instead of simply overunning the covenant there, they protected strongpoints throughtout the ruins.

but gravemind was on another halo. who could have been controlling them there? or how about the flood on the station floating around the planet next to the origional halo?

again, the flood must be maintained...like a weapon, right?


Think of the flood kind of like the "borg" until that whole "queen borg" deal.

They are a collective. They become more complex as they infect more things. They eventually form something along the lines of "gravemind" that can speak and such. Something "may" be controling the flood. But my guess is that the flood themsevles uses the memories of their carriers to become smarter, more complex. Giving them the ability to make repairs, think, plan, plot.

The other part of my theory is that the flood are a weapon, found by the forerunners, attempted to be harnessed, and failed. Hence they built the rings, hence they fired them, hence we are playing Halo.


Dang it Bungie, if this is the last game you better puplish the Halo Bible. I'd buy it even if it was as much as a 360. That thing has to be the best book EVAR.


i think the flood are in constant communication with gravemind through some link and take orders from him.

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Posted by: Pezza
Nice theory, it is diffirent. I wonder though, what if the Flood were tampered orcreated by the Forerunner (or another source and Forerunner simply study them) to make a perfect soldier?

To make the perfect army you need soldiers with intelligence (yep, they can repair/pilot vehicles), can follow orders (I believe Gravemind has a means to control them, why not the creators?) you need strength and numbers (*ticks box*) and your soldiers need to be motivated.

What better way to motivate such a creature than with an unquenchable, undieing 'hunger'? If all your men lust for is the enemy then they would fight to the end of time.
Perhaps the creators of the Flood (forerunner or otherwise) instilled a 'hunger' on them?

They wouldnt want the Halo's to fire because they would be forever hungry. It may not be any diffirent to what happens if the Halo does fire, but it would be the world of diffirence to Gravemind and his mates.

Just a theory I dont expect will be right but anyway...

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nice theory
me likey!

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come take my poll and lets discuss some there
just a suggestion.

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could be. Im not too sure why they would need that kind of weapon though...civil war, perhaps? maybe full-scale war?

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maybe in preperation for FUTURE wars
you know
its a good thing to constantly better ones army.
And i'm sure that the forerunners had enemies.

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i think the flood are in constant communication with gravemind through some link and take orders from him.


I agree. To a point.

A Gravemind isn't made in a day. He has to be "grown", so who ordered the flood to grow together to make him in the first place? The flood did.

It's an instinct in the flood to do so.

Yes they take orders from him. But much like the "aliens" in that sci-fi series the "leaders" reach can only extend so far. When out of reach they make another "leader" and until it's complete they act for the greater good of their race.

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I don't think the Forerunner manufactured the Flood. If they needed super-soldiers, some sort of super Sentinal would do the job. And no, not the big Enforcers. I'm talking about a bipedal Sentinal. They would never turn on their masters, be completely loyal and would not have to depend on a food source.

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Posted by: Spike12
I don't think the Forerunner manufactured the Flood. If they needed super-soldiers, some sort of super Sentinal would do the job. And no, not the big Enforcers. I'm talking about a bipedal Sentinal. They would never turn on their masters, be completely loyal and would not have to depend on a food source.


Good point but nature always beats technology. I am sure the forerunner were amazingly advanced and could make super sentinels but nothing makes a more perfect machine on Earth than a Human body.

I would bet that trend continues for all civilisations thoughout the galaxies, biotics > synthetics.

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Posted by: Spike12
I don't think the Forerunner manufactured the Flood. If they needed super-soldiers, some sort of super Sentinal would do the job. And no, not the big Enforcers. I'm talking about a bipedal Sentinal. They would never turn on their masters, be completely loyal and would not have to depend on a food source.


our troops right now are armed with the best technology(see them as sentinels)

yet, drop the simplest of diseases into the mix and not only do we save a crapload of money, but we also get rid of our enemies. The Flood would be inexpesive due to their consumption of the enemy themselves.

drat, someone beat me to it! *beats dead horse*

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  • 05.14.2006 11:44 PM PDT

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how do you know the flood on halo didnt diequote]

I always wondered what deeper meanings the subtitle "hitchikers may be escaping convicts" in halo 1 on the maw could have had. Think about it. The flood could be considered the convicts of halo, technically being imprisoned there. Then again, it could have simply been reffering to the chief's escape.

  • 05.15.2006 12:01 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

The whole Halo system itself seems pointless. If the Flood were imprisoned for 101,267 years, how long does it take for them to starve?

If the Forerunners were advanced enough to create an ariticial word with all the fantastic technology on it, why can't they create a weapon that kills Flood? I'm sure Bungie thought of that.

No, I think the Halo system has a different purpose. What that is, I could only speculate.

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Posted by: bluediataxin
I always wondered what deeper meanings the subtitle "hitchikers may be escaping convicts" in halo 1 on the maw could have had. Think about it. The flood could be considered the convicts of halo, technically being imprisoned there. Then again, it could have simply been reffering to the chief's escape.


I have always taken the meaning as the flood being the convicts myself.

Cortana constantly says they were imprisoned here and they are trying to get to you while you are in the hog so personally I think thats what hitchhikers means :/

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I agree on that i do not think the halo´s were created to kill the flood, it must have some other reason since it obiusly failed...

but the forunners definitly studied the flood, remember the first map where you get to play Arbiter..."its silent..." the whole station is a research facility with the labs, the tubes of greenlike liquid in them and once you are on the "library" platform it picks tubes from the wall and when you smash these tubes there comes little infect forms out of them.

we will know when the time comes...

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