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If the forerunners activated the ring(s) to kill all sentient life in the galaxy, therefore killing the flood's food, and starving them to death, why aren't the flood dead, and who contained them on halo again? Wasn't Halo built as a containment facility for the flood as well as a weapon?

It might not have been enough years for all the flood to die off from starvation, but why would they be back in storage by themselves? Why aren't they roaming the galaxy searching for food? Why didn't they take any technology that the forerunners left to travel around?

  • 05.15.2006 6:45 AM PDT

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The flood infection forms can hibernate for eons so when the covenant woke them up snack time!!! the forerunners contained them for study in a controlled enviroment

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First, the Forerunners preserved some specimens of the Flood before they set off the Halos.
Second, the Flood themselves aren't very intelligent - they can't operate complex machinery (with the exception of Gravemind-type Flood forms). This would explain why they are not roaming the galaxy in search of food.

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That is correct. The flood simply go dormant without a food source.

  • 05.15.2006 6:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Aerien
... the Flood themselves aren't very intelligent - they can't operate complex machinery (with the exception of Gravemind-type Flood forms). This would explain why they are not roaming the galaxy in search of food.


I wouldn't say that. The Flood were repairing Truth and Reconciliation. They certainly have intelligence, which explains why they only seem to attack sentient life.

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First, tell me where it says they contained specimens before they set off the Halos and I'll look in the books

Second, they are intelligent. Intelligent enough to operate machinery. If a few of them can fly a pelican, then I'm sure over 1000s of years of waiting, they'd be able to figure out how to fly a cruiser or some other sort of machine that the forerunners might have left behind

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Wow....a forum ninja...double posted.......Oh well......anyways....Floods aint dumb...they broke the door in the 343 level....in the video.....of jenkins...

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But the Halo's are supposed to kill the floods food, so it can kill the flood. The Halos would be no good if the Flood could live forever without food. I'm sure they might be able to 'hibernate' for a looooooong time without food, but human evolution would take millions of years. If the flood can wait that long, then they deserve to eat us

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Breaking doors doesn't require intelligence; there are rocks that can do that.
They can't fly Pelicans very well, they crashed.

I think this may shed some light on the matter.

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or it could be that the flood only gain whatever intelligence that the host has to offer and the infection forms are just going on instinct

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kinda like in the books where keys had to keep the flood from getting at all of the information about earth in his head they dont know till they take over and extract the information

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halo script writers messed up!!!! Why would the forerunner kill themselves if the flood were just gonna go sleep?

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The Flood probably DID search the Galaxy for food: but didn't find any. BECAUSE IT HAD ALL BEEN DESTROYED BY THE RINGS! I guess the ones searching died and rest went into hibernation, and they are the ones that survived.

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Posted by: GameJunkieJim
Posted by: Aerien
... the Flood themselves aren't very intelligent - they can't operate complex machinery (with the exception of Gravemind-type Flood forms). This would explain why they are not roaming the galaxy in search of food.


I wouldn't say that. The Flood were repairing Truth and Reconciliation. They certainly have intelligence, which explains why they only seem to attack sentient life.


Monkey's attack thre source of food. This does not show intelligence it shows instinct, the same goes for The flood.

  • 05.15.2006 7:23 AM PDT
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so being able to repair a space cruiser is incstinct and not skill? sound dumb? YES IT DOES!!

  • 05.15.2006 7:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: julius_ceaser
so being able to repair a space cruiser is incstinct and not skill? sound dumb? YES IT DOES!!


The flood infection form, the basic flood form, are not intelligent by themselves. They act pretty much on instinct, reacting to the living organisms around them. When they infect a higher intelligence they gain that intelligence, making the infected flood forms more intelligent. The infected froms then create more highly intelligent flood forms by fusing together to create forms like the keyes blob from halo and the gravemind from halo 2.

So any intelligence the flood has comes from the forms they infect.

As to why the flood is not extinct, Firstly the infection forms where in storage while the forerunner where initially studying them. You can see these storage bays all through both the halos and the retrofitted stations. Also the infection forms can hibernate. This does not mean that they will last indefinately, i.e. forever, but it does mean that they can prolong their life for a considerably long time.

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Posted by: vicious169
or it could be that the flood only gain whatever intelligence that the host has to offer and the infection forms are just going on instinct


Finally someone on this forum understands and pays attention to the books! Yes, it is true that the Flood themselves do not excell in the areas of intelligence and cognitive thinking. The Flood only follow their instinct: to find food. When an infection form takes over a host's body, they link into the host's mind in order to know everything their host knows. Ever notice the difference in how the infection forms attack and how the combat forms attack? The infection forms just swarm towards the nearest food source until they take it over and move on, even if that food source happens to be wearing a bio-mechanical suit with energy shielding and carrying a fully-loaded shotgun. The combat forms, however, attack with the weapons of whatever their host was carrying, because now they have their host's knowledge of how to use those weapons. It was the same with the ones who flew the Pelicans: if you take over a pilot's body and drain his brain, you kinda learn how to be a pilot.

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The reason the flood are contained is because they did die out. Outside the Halos, they starved to death ages ago, but samples were preserved on ice for further research on the halo installations. Listen carefully to the Heretic Leader.

  • 05.15.2006 8:31 AM PDT

Whoever said the Halos worked as planned anyways? They kill anything with sufficient biomass, which seems to me, like bacteria and smaller would stay alive. The Flood exists on multiple levels, and there are tiny spores which might've survived the halo firings, not to mention that the Forerunners did keep some on ice.

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Well I belive the Flood were some how discoverd and/or created. Thus the forerunners built the Halo rings to do 3 things. 1.contain the flood. 2. study the flood. 3. kill the floods food. The forerunners unfortunetly had to do number 3 kill the floods food. (which might explain the extinction of the dinosaurs) The flood went nighty night and after eons were woken up by the covenant.

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So if the Flood that weren't on ice died out, why did the Forerunners put them on ice in the first? To study them? Why study them if they would have starved like the rest of the flood?

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Finally someone on this forum understands and pays attention to the books! Yes, it is true that the Flood themselves do not excell in the areas of intelligence and cognitive thinking. The Flood only follow their instinct: to find food. When an infection form takes over a host's body, they link into the host's mind in order to know everything their host knows. Ever notice the difference in how the infection forms attack and how the combat forms attack? The infection forms just swarm towards the nearest food source until they take it over and move on, even if that food source happens to be wearing a bio-mechanical suit with energy shielding and carrying a fully-loaded shotgun. The combat forms, however, attack with the weapons of whatever their host was carrying, because now they have their host's knowledge of how to use those weapons. It was the same with the ones who flew the Pelicans: if you take over a pilot's body and drain his brain, you kinda learn how to be a pilot.

Except in Halo 2, where even the infection forms back away from you.

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Well if their host's brain is not damaged they gain all the memories and intelligence of the host. So they are only as intelligent as their host was at the time of infection.

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The flood were laying dormant because they were not all killed off from the first activation of the halo rings, 343 states this in H1. and it wasn't the covenant that woke the flood it was captain keyes. The covenant new about the flood they only wanted Halo's fire power......

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also the books are not a direct link to the halo story in the game, they are a spin off, merely to expand the story for further enjoyment.....

  • 05.17.2006 3:21 AM PDT

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