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  • 05.15.2006 12:07 PM PDT
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posted by:Achronos
Less self-righteous posturing and ad hominem attacks will keep this thread open and its participants' posting privileges retained.

and also remember: "last time, you asked me: if it were my choice, would i do it? having considerabletime to ponder your querey, my answer remains the same."

and, in the trailer: "i know oyur past... your future"

you cant see into the future. that's impossible. cortana got info on the last firing from halo's database

  • 05.15.2006 12:19 PM PDT
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"to think a record of our lost times....human history is it..."

And yes, time distortion is part of the story. It is caused by a Forerunner crystal they found in Fall of Reach and has been slightly altering the time outside of slipstream to that Chief would arive at certian places at certian times. Unfortionetly, the crystal was distroyed leaving only a few shards.

This is a partial reason Master Chief has so much luck as Cortana as mentioned.

  • 05.15.2006 12:24 PM PDT
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Hmm. Recall in the final level of Halo 2, Guilty Spark says to the chiefton of the brutes, "Be careful with that reclaimer" and something to the extent of "she's deicate".

Now, I cannot recall exactly, but in some cinimatic, I recall either 343 or 2401 call John a reclaimer. Saying something along the lines of "A reclaimer, here?"

It would help if I wasn't so forgetful.

  • 05.15.2006 12:26 PM PDT
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The Master Chief will soon be going waaaay back in time. Can't wait!

  • 05.15.2006 12:26 PM PDT
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umm the post said there was punch and pie?

  • 05.15.2006 12:29 PM PDT
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In the books i believe it says the events on the first Halo took place 2 to 3 weeks prior to normal time. I know at the very least when the POA completed its jump from Reach to the Halo, they had no idea what the date was the entire time they were there.

  • 05.15.2006 12:30 PM PDT
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If we're going to start talking quantum string theory and entanglement then I'm leaving now..........

  • 05.15.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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That makes a lot of sense, but, 343 sees the MC as Reclaimer, who might be some kind of robot. If this "Reclaimer" is a robot, 343 might be referencing the last time he activated the rings.

Edit: Also, now that I think of it, "Reclaimer" could be the same thing as Arbiter. The Forerunner select a certain person to become the Reclaimer, said person loses their old identity (Just like the elite who became the Arbiter) and take on that of the Reclaimer. 343 is treating what could actually be two different people as one person. Although that's just a theory.


[Edited on 5/15/2006]

  • 05.15.2006 12:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wuyie
Well if youre goin to go at least take some punch


Don't mind if I do.....

I hope it's a cheeky little number with a good kick. I need it today.

  • 05.15.2006 12:44 PM PDT
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I posted a long theory about this a little over 6 months ago about a time loop, how the rings when activated don't necessaryily kill EVERYTHING, and how evolution took its course and things transpire the same way every single time, and the rings have been activated several times... but this time was different somehow

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Posted by: Nanthil
I posted a long theory about this a little over 6 months ago about a time loop, how the rings when activated don't necessaryily kill EVERYTHING, and how evolution took its course and things transpire the same way every single time, and the rings have been activated several times... but this time was different somehow


reminds me of the Matrix underlying story.

  • 05.15.2006 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: wellskelpt
Posted by: Nanthil
I posted a long theory about this a little over 6 months ago about a time loop, how the rings when activated don't necessaryily kill EVERYTHING, and how evolution took its course and things transpire the same way every single time, and the rings have been activated several times... but this time was different somehow


reminds me of the Matrix underlying story.

ha ha, you're right... I never thought of that.

  • 05.15.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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I like this thread, here's my two cents:

Anybody familiar with the movie Galaxy Quest? Or the Mighty Max cartoon? Both of these have something very much in common with the idea of time anomolies. In Galaxy Quest, the super secret Omega 13 weapon (or something to that effect) was a temporal bomb that would rewind time for a few seconds, kinda like instant replay. That is how you got to see all the main characters get killed, but then saved when time was rewound and the killer was stopped in time. Similar to the Mighty Max cartoon, the very last episode had Max fighting the main villain after he'd killed Max's friends, and his magic hat (or something) sent him back to the very fist episode, except now with the memories of the previous run-through, suggesting he would use all he would already know would happen to change the outcome of the future.

I'm guessing the idea is similar here, maybe the Halo's main weapon or something else by the Forerunners was devised to rewind time, but still retain the knowledge of what transpired before, perhaps because the one thing the Forerunners didn't have was a future.

  • 05.15.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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time travel stories are rarely done well because they so hard to grasp by the viewer and are too open to anomolies. The idea of going back and killing your grandfather...cause and effect...circular paradox...yaddayaddayadda.
I'd be surprised if bungie have gone heavily into a time travel story cause it's the easiest thing to screw up and frustrate viewers. Then again I just think too much about things so it might only be me thaqt gets P'd off.

  • 05.15.2006 1:08 PM PDT
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paradox's, Quantum string theories, MY GOD SOOOO CONFUSED!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: superub3r
Hmm. Recall in the final level of Halo 2, Guilty Spark says to the chiefton of the brutes, "Be careful with that reclaimer" and something to the extent of "she's deicate".

Now, I cannot recall exactly, but in some cinimatic, I recall either 343 or 2401 call John a reclaimer. Saying something along the lines of "A reclaimer, here?"

It would help if I wasn't so forgetful.

It is when gravemind has the Aribter and Cheif 2401 Says '"A reclaimer here we have much work to do" or suming like that

  • 05.15.2006 1:42 PM PDT

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