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Subject: The symbolism of Halo
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Poll: What do you think of my speculations?  [closed]
You're a rambling moron:  19%
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Good:  14%
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Die nubi:  5%
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Alright:  19%
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I hayt you:  0%
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OMG U SUXZORZ:  14%
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What he said:  14%
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Total Votes: 21

Starting from the first game, Halo: Combat Evolved, I started to see symolism being used, quite frequently I might add. (Okay from Halo 2, whatever). First, the Spartan-II project. Spartans were mighty ancient warriors, and except for the ancient thing, the Spartan-II's are the same. One of the most famous battles of the spartans was a defeat, strangely. 300 spartans held off a staggering number of Greek warriors (100,00+) in a canyon for a few days with minimal losses. That is, until they were flanked because they were betrayed.

This said, the Chief may follow the same fate as his predecessors. They say history defeats itself, so the Master Chief may fall. Like the 300 spartans, the small number of Spartan-II's have annihilated an immeasurable number of Covenant. The Master Chief alone destroyed an armada (Halo: Combat Evolved). All of the Spartans-II's and spartans were great warriors, but even the mightiest warriors may not survive such a vicious onslaught. Indeed, all 300 spartan warriors were killed.

Next, the MJOLNIR armor. MJOLNIR, I believe, was the name of the hammer used by Thor. Likewise, the MJOLNIR armor is powerful and is a devastating tool used in the right hands. The hammer of Thor could not be wielded by any mortal. Spartan-II's, as stated in the book, never officially "die." So, Spartan-II's are not mortals. They are gods.

Gravemind...he's a symbol for SOMEthing...I just know it...got it. Gravemind is the spartan (ancient) who betrayed his allies and got everyone killed. Since Gravemind is a Forerunner flood (speculation, but it makes sense), then he's not really a spartan or Spartan-II to begin with. Anyway, this spartan decided to tell the Greek warriors how to flank them. Gravemind used the Master Chief and the Arbiter as tools to escape Delta Halo and infest the universe. What a nice guy! So yeah, he's the traitor.

The Arbiter...I have no idea.

The Monitors...???

The Ark (duuh). Though Bungie hasn't said it yet, (what do they admit?) that thing in the trailer was probably the Ark. The Covenant was never trying to destroy Earth in the first place, they knew about the Ark (when Truth was tlaking to the Arbiter, he told him 2401 Penitent Tangent told them it told THEM everything they wanted to know). Of course they would have asked about the Great Journey, and everything about it. That would lead to the discovery of the location of the Ark. (I don't think they knew that at the end of Halo, when they attacked Earth however. They just wanted to exterminate us). So, the Ark is a symbol for....honestly, I have no idea. Bungie hasn't said much about the Ark other than it remotely activates the 13 (?) Halos.

That's all until I think of (remember) more.

  • 05.15.2006 12:19 PM PDT
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bungie has many symbols and things they use, this forum is for finding out what those symbols are, and seeing if we can put together a puzzle sort of

  • 05.15.2006 12:21 PM PDT
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w0rd. here's a helpful...specualtion i guess.
Posted by: Some guy on another forum :P
The structure is located in Africa. Africa is considered to be the cradle of life for Earth, that's were most animals came from. Now think of Noah and the Ark, his job directed by God was to take two of every animal and to put them on a ship while it rained for forty days and nights, to wash away the "evil ones". Now think of Halo, the Flood is the "evil ones" and Halos job is to kill all live that the Flood can control. Halo is meant to destroy any life with sufficient biomass that can sustain the Flood. Now is it odd that the Ark, which may hold bioforms too small for the Flood to use, can be located in Africa, the cradle of life. No. Now I'm not sure who said that whoever is in the Ark is safe from Halo, but I seriously doubt that. Now after the Halo's are activated then the Ark sends out the bioforms to the planets that can sustain life, like Earth. It is reasonable to assume that the Forerunners put there own DNA in some life forms and that they evolved to be humans. Also that drawing going around it is a concept art and the idea of concept art is to give people ideas, so it is sure to change, also it isn't meant to look good. This is only speculation but that's the point of the Halo 3 forums right now, once the game is released or if Bungie releases more information, then we'll know what’s going on.

  • 05.15.2006 12:38 PM PDT
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I really like your theory... one of the best ive heard so far.... but part of me sees Cortona and her state of mind and makes me think she could possbly be the traitor.

  • 05.15.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: HG24
I really like your theory... one of the best ive heard so far.... but part of me sees Cortona and her state of mind and makes me think she could possbly be the traitor.


Exactly. Either her or Ackerson (from the books), but most likely Cortana since we don't see Ackerson at all in the games.

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Posted by: Spartan Chris119
Starting from the first game, Halo: Combat Evolved, I started to see symolism being used, quite frequently I might add. (Okay from Halo 2, whatever). First, the Spartan-II project. Spartans were mighty ancient warriors, and except for the ancient thing, the Spartan-II's are the same. One of the most famous battles of the spartans was a defeat, strangely. 300 spartans held off a staggering number of Greek warriors (100,00+) in a canyon for a few days with minimal losses. That is, until they were flanked because they were betrayed.
They weren't holding off the Greeks, they were holding off Persians.


This said, the Chief may follow the same fate as his predecessors. They say history defeats itself, so the Master Chief may fall.Actually, the correct saying is "history repeats itself."

Like the 300 spartans, the small number of Spartan-II's have annihilated an immeasurable number of Covenant. The Master Chief alone destroyed an armada (Halo: Combat Evolved). All of the Spartans-II's and spartans were great warriors, but even the mightiest warriors may not survive such a vicious onslaught. Indeed, all 300 spartan warriors were killed.That's why the supersoldiers are called spartans in the first place; they are really strong. Like the ancient Greeks.

Next, the MJOLNIR armor. MJOLNIR, I believe, was the name of the hammer used by Thor. Likewise, the MJOLNIR armor is powerful and is a devastating tool used in the right hands. The hammer of Thor could not be wielded by any mortal. Spartan-II's, as stated in the book, never officially "die." So, Spartan-II's are not mortals. They are gods.They cannot officially die because they aren't completely human to begin with; they are cyborg supersoldiers, not gods.

Gravemind...he's a symbol for SOMEthing...I just know it...got it. Gravemind is the spartan (ancient) who betrayed his allies and got everyone killed. Since Gravemind is a Forerunner flood (speculation, but it makes sense), then he's not really a spartan or Spartan-II to begin with. Anyway, this spartan decided to tell the Greek warriors how to flank them. Gravemind used the Master Chief and the Arbiter as tools to escape Delta Halo and infest the universe. What a nice guy! So yeah, he's the traitor.The traitor in Ancient Greece wasn't a Spartan to begin with.

The Arbiter...I have no idea.Perhaps he's a covenant savior...or some covie guy that sees the truth behind the Prophets. The one covie that isn't blinded by religion.

The Monitors...???Perhaps they are nothing but guardians of a hidden legacy.

The Ark (duuh). Though Bungie hasn't said it yet, (what do they admit?) that thing in the trailer was probably the Ark. The Covenant was never trying to destroy Earth in the first place, they knew about the Ark (when Truth was tlaking to the Arbiter, he told him 2401 Penitent Tangent told them it told THEM everything they wanted to know). Of course they would have asked about the Great Journey, and everything about it. That would lead to the discovery of the location of the Ark. (I don't think they knew that at the end of Halo, when they attacked Earth however. They just wanted to exterminate us). So, the Ark is a symbol for....honestly, I have no idea. Bungie hasn't said much about the Ark other than it remotely activates the 13 (?) Halos.There are seven halos. And...the ark represents knowledge, probably.

That's all until I think of (remember) more.Go get eaten by a fried fish.

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only 7 halos not 13 and there is alot of symbolism in halo but not how your thinking, more along the lines of the bible like noahs ark is used to escape the flood and the garden of eden story the snake is gravemind who manipulates eve aka cortana.

I could go on for hours about symbolism in halo, but its more based around religion not history.

  • 05.15.2006 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: CBTxQuake
only 7 halos not 13 and there is alot of symbolism in halo but not how your thinking, more along the lines of the bible like noahs ark is used to escape the flood and the garden of eden story the snake is gravemind who manipulates eve aka cortana.

I could go on for hours about symbolism in halo, but its more based around religion not history.
It's not really based on religion. It is a parody of religion.

  • 05.15.2006 12:56 PM PDT
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I havn't heard many people say this, but the Ark of noah was mean't to save them from the Flood. (ark kills flood) That's enough symbolism for me.

[Edited on 5/15/2006]

  • 05.15.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: CBTxQuake
only 7 halos not 13 and there is alot of symbolism in halo but not how your thinking, more along the lines of the bible like noahs ark is used to escape the flood and the garden of eden story the snake is gravemind who manipulates eve aka cortana.

I could go on for hours about symbolism in halo, but its more based around religion not history.
It's not really based on religion. It is a parody of religion.


a parody of religion and it symbolising religion is pretty much the same thing bud.

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Posted by: CBTxQuake
only 7 halos not 13 and there is alot of symbolism in halo but not how your thinking, more along the lines of the bible like noahs ark is used to escape the flood and the garden of eden story the snake is gravemind who manipulates eve aka cortana.

I could go on for hours about symbolism in halo, but its more based around religion not history.
Depending on your perspective. From my vantage point, the bible contains much history. The kingdom of israel etc. king david's line to Jesus. That has been proven to exist. The religion starts when you say that jesus was the savior of the human race. Other artifacts and points in history in the bible have been recorded by NON-RELIGIOUS historians of ancient past. Read the works of Josephus. Much of the bible can be backed up by Josephus and other old documents. The only thing you can really question after that is the religious significance of the history.

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What gives you the idea of 13 Halos?
In Halo it is mentioned that there are other 'installations'. In Halo 2 was said that there are 7 Halos...

  • 05.15.2006 1:03 PM PDT