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Subject: Combat Knife... a realistic weapon for Halo
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If you have read the books, a combat knife is standard issue. Master Chief actually utalizes it. So, why not have it in the game? You could kill little Runt bastards without using your ammo. I believe it a wonderful idea to use the knife.

  • 05.15.2006 4:45 PM PDT
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Oh yes my perfect weapon, i love dropping from the ceiling with the sword:)!
Now I can have active camo on while I do it!

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Posted by: Mr Pink7103
It's not a question of it being inpractical as trust me the master chief could use a combat knife. The issue lies in it's actual game use. It would either be a non glowwy sword or some minor weapon that when matched to normal melee attacks would just sort of bland in.

The only way I would really want a knife in the game would have to be some sort of a stealth kill that didn't allow the enemy team to see any indication of their team mate dead until he respawned and told them. Other than that it would act as a normal melee attack but would just be a way to sneak up and neutralize guards. As right now I have enough hatred for the sword and don't think I can stand another autolocking melee piece o crap.


Very good points here.................

  • 05.15.2006 4:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: MSAT07
Always wanted the Combat Knife-it is a great idea and you give great reasons for those non believers. And you are saying Master Chief without a gun and only a knife to fight off sveral Elites isn't badass. but with a sniper rifle from 400ft away is? Please.


did you read what you just wrote, you think killing aliens with knives is fun? are you serious?

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I'm guessing you don't know much about a Combat Knife, because if you did, then you'd know that a Combat Knife is rarely used for stealth. It is a common myth that cutting somebody's throat with a knife is a stealthy alternative to using unsilenced firearms. The opponent is more likely to gurgle and thrash around for some period of time until the brain's oxygen supply runs out, usually creating noise in the process.

Also, Halo is infact a stealth game in some ways... It has Camo, It has the fast killing Energy Sword, and in the books it also has the Energy Garrote (a tether used to silently strangle victims used by Elites) and the Combat Knife.

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It does. I made it for my SNES.

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there would be no reason for it. use your gun butt or just shoot.

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and hey, if the topic creator wants to really technical, its not the size of the of the brute shythe compared to the combat knife that matters, its the amount of force you put behind it. i think a brute would do more damage with a knife than a grunt would do with a brute shythe for instance. and when the control is the same (MC) he is gonna do more damage with a shythe than with a knife. oh yeah, and for all those wimps out there who dont play halo on legendary, for your information, getting close to an elite, brute, or hunter and trying to stab it with a knufe would most definatley piss it off and one melee shot from any of those dudes is instat death, even on herioc probably too. so close combat with a knife is just retarded. Plus, do you really think the UNSC would deploy their soldiers with knives actually expecting them to kill an alien with it? they can barely kill one with a battle rifle...

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I like how you're trying to say that damage by the means of a blade slashing you and damage by the means of someone bludgeoning you with something are the same thing. Well, actually, I don't like like it, its actually rather retarded.

Just for an example, take medieval plate mail. If you do a sideways slash - note that I said sideways slash not forward thrust- with a sword it does minimal damage, if you hit it with a mace it can crush the armor delivering a strong blow to the wearer possible killing them of knocking them out.

  • 05.15.2006 4:53 PM PDT

The Master Cheif is not some Sam Fisher that sneaks around with a knife and stabs people in the back. He likes to run in and kick some @$$ with his assault rifle.

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The way you guys are talking about it sucks... It sounds like you actually want to have to pick up a knife just to be able to melee someone. I think it would be kickass to have some sort of bayonet on the AR so that its melee would do a little more damage (like the brute shot) but having to pick up a knife to kill someone silently? I would rather just crack their back with a melee attack. (sweet rhyme eh?)

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Light-sabre, that's what I really want.

Cutting a grunt in half shall be teh fun!

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a bayonet would be pretty sick, especially if the 360 can pump the visuals for some massive guts comin out the other side of an elite!

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Hmph! How do you guys come up with the Combat Knife being a weak weapon?

One guy said that a Broad Sword is a more powerful weapon then a knife because of how big it is. Have you ever tried to swing a Broad Sword upward? Cause that's how you attack with the Brute Shot blade, and I'm telling you, it's a lot slower and really weakens the strike of the blade. As were a Combat Knife can be thrust upward loosing no power and penetrating armor.

Some of you say that it wouldn't be able to penetrate the armor... Hm... then how did a flood penetrate MC's armor wish just a tenticle? And have you seen the elites (and the other covenants) armor? They barely have any! There's hundreds of open areas to hit a covenant in.

Some of you say that there's no point for it cause it wouldn't have any special use... Well it could be a weaker version of the sword (takes 3-4 hits to kill, 1 from the back) but would be able to quickly swipe (attack repeatedly in a few seconds) and could be used with camo

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Posted by: Bapa
Light-sabre, that's what I really want.

Cutting a grunt in half shall be teh fun!


lol, yeah that would be pretty sick

  • 05.15.2006 4:59 PM PDT

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Why would anyone use a knife instead of a rifle or a pistol. It makes no sense to limit your range of attack. It makes sense to use the plasma sword though because it can cut straight through the shields and armor in 1 blow. I doubt whether a regular knife could do that, even in the hands of a spartan.

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knife would be sick

[Edited on 5/15/2006]

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Posted by: Sypheran
Hmph! How do you guys come up with the Combat Knife being a weak weapon?

One guy said that a Broad Sword is a more powerful weapon then a knife because of how big it is. Have you ever tried to swing a Broad Sword upward? Cause that's how you attack with the Brute Shot blade, and I'm telling you, it's a lot slower and really weakens the strike of the blade. As were a Combat Knife can be thrust upward loosing no power and penetrating armor.

Some of you say that it wouldn't be able to penetrate the armor... Hm... then how did a flood penetrate MC's armor wish just a tenticle? And have you seen the elites (and the other covenants) armor? They barely have any! There's hundreds of open areas to hit a covenant in.

Some of you say that there's no point for it cause it wouldn't have any special use... Well it could be a weaker version of the sword (takes 3-4 hits to kill, 1 from the back) but would be able to quickly swipe (attack repeatedly in a few seconds) and could be used with camo


if the scythe on the brute shot wasnt powerful then why would the brutes use it? plus stop trying to make exuses for a crappy ass weapon to be in the game. knives are for -blam!-.

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Posted by: mred423
Posted by: MSAT07
Always wanted the Combat Knife-it is a great idea and you give great reasons for those non believers. And you are saying Master Chief without a gun and only a knife to fight off sveral Elites isn't badass. but with a sniper rifle from 400ft away is? Please.


did you read what you just wrote, you think killing aliens with knives is fun? are you serious?


Did I say that the only thing I want to kill aliens with is a Knife? No. I only meant by that was that killing Elites with only a Combat Knife is just as badass as doing it with any gun.

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Have you ever tried to swing a Broad Sword upward?

Have you ever tried flipping a tank?

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ok how about this?????
a combat knife sort of weapon
but the outside of the blade is like the energy sword is (all bluey and glowy)
it would be a really usefull weapon close range (1 hit melee no lunge)
i made a quick image of what im KIND of talking about lol but bungie would add ALOT more to it

http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=futureknife0ho.jpg

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putting a combat knife in halo is like taking a scope and putting it on a shotgun, it JUST DOESNT WORK!

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The Sword is the combat knife.

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I heard that Jack Bauer is going to be a playable character in Halo 3 and that he comes equiped with a combat knive to ninja kill all those unsuspecting Covenant terrorists.

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what if you can throw the knives, like in goldeneye

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