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  • Subject: AL/Evade trade-off
Subject: AL/Evade trade-off

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.

Remove AL from all playlists and maps without vehicles, and replace it with evade. Then take AL, and place it in any vehicle playlists.

That way, people won't get trapped by vehicles as often, and AL doesn't slow down CQC. It's not the ability that's broken, it's how people use it.

Ok, think for a second here. If someone Armour locked over a wraith or incoming ghost, would you be annoyed? Now, what about over an AR? I know I hate it when people AL over an AR starter, but when someone locks over a ghost splatter that's expected.

P.S. Leave kill times out of it. If you want fast kill times, go play Modern Warfare 2. Yes, I meant 2 not 3. As much as I hate CoD, MW2 is extremely fun when played with friends compared to Crap Ops and MW3.

  • 01.28.2012 12:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: SouthPoIe
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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Nope. AL should be removed and then make Reach to have never existed in the first place.

  • 01.28.2012 12:45 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. AL should be removed and then make Reach to have never existed in the first place.


I can see that you handle change well.

  • 01.28.2012 12:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: EliteZealotFTW

Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. AL should be removed and then make Reach to have never existed in the first place.


I can see that you handle change well.

I can see you mistakenly think Reach is a worthy successor to the Halo franchise.

Changes that are good are fine.

Changes that ruin the game are not.

Reach has many of the not good changes.

  • 01.28.2012 12:49 AM PDT
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I'm listeni- Oh wait I don't give a -blam!- what you have to say.

Evade is a ridiculously overpowered AA to have off spawn.

  • 01.28.2012 12:51 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.


Posted by: Frasier Crane
Evade is a ridiculously overpowered AA to have off spawn.


Would you still think its OP if you used it once then had to wait for cooldown? I'd be fine with that change, but I prefer it like this :P

  • 01.28.2012 1:06 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.

Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: EliteZealotFTW

Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. AL should be removed and then make Reach to have never existed in the first place.


I can see that you handle change well.

I can see you mistakenly think Reach is a worthy successor to the Halo franchise.

Changes that are good are fine.

Changes that ruin the game are not.

Reach has many of the not good changes.


Is it the actual engine/mechanics that you don't like, or optional things like AA's and... Well... All I can think of other than that is bloom, but now you can change that.

  • 01.28.2012 1:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Movement speed

Jump height

Vehicle Health

Bloom

Grenade physics

AA

Shield recharge time

Weak sandbox weapons

Those are just a fraction of my complaints with Reach.

  • 01.28.2012 1:11 AM PDT

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BTB does not want AL either. leave it in firefight as a last round option only.

  • 01.28.2012 1:21 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.


Posted by: RC Clone
Movement speed

Jump height

Vehicle Health

Bloom

Grenade physics

AA

Shield recharge time

Weak sandbox weapons

Those are just a fraction of my complaints with Reach.


What's wrong with the grenade physics? Honestly, help me out with this one.

Personally, I like vehicle health. It gives you a chance to fight back against vehicle rushers. If you're going to get slaughtered anyway (not saying that I don't know how to take out vehicles, plasma pistol FTW), it helps if damage carries over.

Look, in all fairness to the weapon sandbox, even if 343i (*shudder*) added 100 new weapons, people would still stick to the DMR and the sniper.

  • 01.28.2012 1:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

The Grenade physic make it extremely easy to throw perfect nades on people and make them hard to avoid when the thrower knows what they are doing.

They explode too fast after the bounce and this combined with their blast radius makes them easy to use. Too easy.


The other weapons need to be able to be powerful weapons in their own right. Plasma Repeater, Focus Rifle, and Plasma Launcher were all good anti infantry weapons that were interesting to use and get kills with.

Unfortunately they were Covenant weapons and the forums whined about them because they don't like useful Covenant weapons.

  • 01.28.2012 1:50 AM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
The Grenade physic make it extremely easy to throw perfect nades on people and make them hard to avoid when the thrower knows what they are doing.

They explode too fast after the bounce and this combined with their blast radius makes them easy to use. Too easy.


The other weapons need to be able to be powerful weapons in their own right. Plasma Repeater, Focus Rifle, and Plasma Launcher were all good anti infantry weapons that were interesting to use and get kills with.

Unfortunately they were Covenant weapons and the forums whined about them because they don't like useful Covenant weapons.



the horror the horror,and i mean grenades

  • 01.28.2012 5:28 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.


Posted by: Johns Couch

Posted by: RC Clone
The Grenade physic make it extremely easy to throw perfect nades on people and make them hard to avoid when the thrower knows what they are doing.

They explode too fast after the bounce and this combined with their blast radius makes them easy to use. Too easy.


The other weapons need to be able to be powerful weapons in their own right. Plasma Repeater, Focus Rifle, and Plasma Launcher were all good anti infantry weapons that were interesting to use and get kills with.

Unfortunately they were Covenant weapons and the forums whined about them because they don't like useful Covenant weapons.



the horror the horror,and i mean grenades


If someone knows how to use grenades efficiently, why shouldn't they be able to get kills? Also, unless TU buffed them, frags are pitiful excuses for grenades. I swear you have to stand on them to die. I've never experienced a problem with grenades before, except for betrayals on Spire.

  • 01.28.2012 6:51 AM PDT


Posted by: EliteZealotFTW

Posted by: Johns Couch

Posted by: RC Clone
The Grenade physic make it extremely easy to throw perfect nades on people and make them hard to avoid when the thrower knows what they are doing.

They explode too fast after the bounce and this combined with their blast radius makes them easy to use. Too easy.


The other weapons need to be able to be powerful weapons in their own right. Plasma Repeater, Focus Rifle, and Plasma Launcher were all good anti infantry weapons that were interesting to use and get kills with.

Unfortunately they were Covenant weapons and the forums whined about them because they don't like useful Covenant weapons.



the horror the horror,and i mean grenades


If someone knows how to use grenades efficiently, why shouldn't they be able to get kills? Also, unless TU buffed them, frags are pitiful excuses for grenades. I swear you have to stand on them to die. I've never experienced a problem with grenades before, except for betrayals on Spire.



are u serious?

  • 01.28.2012 8:25 AM PDT