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Subject: Zero bloom is E-Z mode.

When I play a game of Team Slayer now, I just laugh out loud, because bloom is so incredibly bad. Anyone who likes bloom, or rather the way Bungie implemented it, is terrible at Halo in general and has no idea what he is talking about.

  • 01.28.2012 6:55 AM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.

ZB is boring IMO. With bloom, pacing is required which limits spamming. If someone keeps pulling the trigger as fast as possible, they shouldn't have pinpoint accuracy.

Also, mock me if you will, but bloom made the game feel more organic to me. By that I mean reminding us that Spartans/Sangheili aren't robots.

  • 01.28.2012 6:57 AM PDT

Now look at the guy above me defending bloom. He is proving my point.

  • 01.28.2012 6:58 AM PDT

Keep reading, its not getting any better!

Zero bloom isn't E-Z mode.

Im my personal opinion bloom was easier because it was easier to get away from since your enemy had to wait for it to reset as to where no bloom you gotta keep watching because it you get hit chance are you are dead.

  • 01.28.2012 6:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: EliteZealotFTW
ZB is boring IMO. With bloom, pacing is required which limits spamming. If someone keeps pulling the trigger as fast as possible, they shouldn't have pinpoint accuracy.

Also, mock me if you will, but bloom made the game feel more organic to me. By that I mean reminding us that Spartans/Sangheili aren't robots.


Bloom doesn't work as it doesn't require pacing as anyone that was pacing would just get outshot by the person that was spamming. This was discovered about 1.5 months into the game. The only situation that you would pace your shots would be cross map. I agree with your point about accuracy but the bloom just wasn't correctly implemented into the game.

The thing with bloom, is that it involved a lot of luck because you had a bigger surface area to aim, compared to no bloom where you have a very limited area to aim to. Something a long the line of this:
|---| Bloom, |--| No bloom. How that's easy mode, I have no idea. The things that Bungie implemented into the game just don't work in this style of game. Look at it this way. Bungie took risks and it just didn't work out. Lets just leave it at that.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 7:04 AM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 7:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: EliteZealotFTW

Bloom is fundamentally stupid. It punishes players who have good aim by forcing them to fire slowly. If I can fire a DMR at its max RoF and keep the reticle on the player, then I should get the kill. This is even easier with lolReach's slow movement speed, which is probably why Bloom was included anyway.

Seems like most of the game stemmed from the idea of AAs cause Sprint is why we're so slow.

  • 01.28.2012 7:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Bloom is fundamentally stupid. It punishes players who have good aim by forcing them to fire slowly. If I can fire a DMR at its max RoF and keep the reticle on the player, then I should get the kill.

  • 01.28.2012 7:10 AM PDT

THATS MY COOL MAN I CAN'T TAKE IT OFF!

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Halo 3 was the only one, and even still the BR was just a tad OP.


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  • 01.28.2012 7:45 AM PDT


Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Anyone can Spam the DMR at someones face with zero-bloom.

/face
Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
I can't aim

/thread


Just because "anyone can", that doesn't mean that everyone is capable of it all the time.

  • 01.28.2012 7:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: DrPepperlova07
RC Clone is a true troll. He has said that he doesn't play Reach anymore and hates it but still goes throughout the Reach forum hating on Reach in most of the forums.

Hes a troll because he said that he hates reach, and then posts on the forums about hating reach?

  • 01.28.2012 7:58 AM PDT

You already did this thread.

  • 01.28.2012 8:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Bito922
There's no "spam" in zero bloom.

  • 01.28.2012 9:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
One game was enough to analyze how awful that game mode was.

MLG, a good playlist. Oh lol'd. "Almost everything is too OP or too random" remove it all!"


I threw a ball once, then decided baseball was not for me.

  • 01.28.2012 9:17 AM PDT

If ZB is Easy mode, then bloom is Reachtard mode.

  • 01.28.2012 9:18 AM PDT
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The amount of retardation in this thread is amazing.

You say zero bloom doesn't fix spam. Nobody complained about people shooting too fast, they complained about their bullets going all over the screen and the game become a lottery.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 9:21 AM PST]

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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Anyone can Spam the DMR at someones face with zero-bloom.

/face
Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
I can't aim

/thread


Just because "anyone can", that doesn't mean that everyone is capable of it all the time.

Oh, yeah. The only people who can't headshot 90% of the time are 12 year olds. But for all of us, it is a piece of cake thanks to Reach's massive headshot boxes.

  • 01.28.2012 9:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: DrPepperlova07
RC Clone is a true troll. He has said that he doesn't play Reach anymore and hates it but still goes throughout the Reach forum hating on Reach in most of the forums.


...you really need to look up the definition of a troll.

  • 01.28.2012 9:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: DrPepperlova07
RC Clone is a true troll. He has said that he doesn't play Reach anymore and hates it but still goes throughout the Reach forum hating on Reach in most of the forums.

I loled.

  • 01.28.2012 10:06 AM PDT

I really couldn't care either way, but I enjoy the game a lot more with zero bloom settings. MLG settings are much more balanced and fun so I usually play that instead. However, default settings can still be fun, but only when you're playing against morons (which is pretty much every game).

  • 01.28.2012 10:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: Mikelp_1

Posted by: DrPepperlova07
RC Clone is a true troll. He has said that he doesn't play Reach anymore and hates it but still goes throughout the Reach forum hating on Reach in most of the forums.


...you really need to look up the definition of a troll.

Not just that. I'm also a hypocrite, apparently.

Proof of my hypocrisy.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 10:14 AM PST]

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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Default rules take more skill then MLG in my opinion. :\

Then you don't understand MLG very well.

  • 01.28.2012 10:15 AM PDT

Posted by: Killer VVhale
Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Default rules take more skill then MLG in my opinion. :\

Then you don't understand MLG very well.
Nope it takes more skill because you have to be good with every weapon instead of just the DMR/Power weapons. Duh!

People pick up the needler, plasma repeater, and spiker in default, amirite?

  • 01.28.2012 10:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Killer VVhale
Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Default rules take more skill then MLG in my opinion. :\

Then you don't understand MLG very well.
Nope it takes more skill because you have to be good with every weapon instead of just the DMR/Power weapons. Duh!

People pick up the needler, plasma repeater, and spiker in default, amirite?


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  • 01.28.2012 10:16 AM PDT

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