- Barnacle_Blast
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Something smells fishy...
Posted by: Barnacle_Blast
Why can't I compare and contrast it to the Halo Combat Evolved pistol?
Posted by: Dr Syx
Because the Halo: Combat Evolved's Pistol is the utility weapon. That's what the Battle Rifle is on Halo 2. Just because it looks like it's a similar gun doesn't mean that it acts like a similar gun. There are no guns in Halo: Combat Evolved you can truly compare to the Halo 2 pistol. It's a bit shallow to think "Well, these two guns are considered 'pistols' in these games so obviously they're the ones I ought to compare." when they're obviously not when you look at it from a gameplay stand point.
Naturally one would think that since there are pistols in both games that they could be compared. But in performing the comparison one realizes that one is stronger and the other is weaker. You're right that by a gameplay stand point the two pistols are no longer comparable because one's former duties are assigned to another. That other being being the battle rifle. We agree on that.
Posted by: Barnacle_Blast
Why was it not meant to be a stand alone weapon?
Posted by: Dr Syx
Because it was a part of the "Dual-Wield" scheme they built around Halo 2.
Posted by: Barnacle_Blast
All the other weapons are effective on their own. Why can't you have an effective pistol that does enough damage on its own? It doesn't have to be a super weapon but at least it could be effective on its own.
Posted by: Dr Syx
That's not entirely true. The Plasma Rifle, the Plasma Pistol, and the Needler were not viable on their own in the least. In every case where they're useful they depend on another weapon. That's because, just like the pistol, they are a part of the "Dual-Wield" scheme in Halo 2.
Fine. If all those weapons were meant to be dual wielded then that's fine.
Posted by: Barnacle_Blast
If you need to dual wield it in order for it to be effective than it's not a good weapon in my opinion. Essentially if it's not enough on its own than why have it available?
Posted by: Dr Syx
It's not a good weapon by it's self. You're thinking of it too much like Halo: Combat Evolved's balance where absolutely every gun was supposed to be used separately. In Halo 2 there were two main classes. Dual-Wields and Single Wields. Dual-Wields were terrible by themselves. (Except for the SMG in certain situations... It wasn't completely useless, but it still wasn't ideal for single wield combat.)
Well in my opinion I don't like that you have to dual wield certain weapons for them to be effective. They at least should've been designed to be relatively effective on their own.
You have to hit every shot even with it dual wielded? That's absurd in my opinion. That would be hard to use.It's your reward for aiming accurately. It's meant to be "Hard". More things in Halo should have been "Hard".
[quote]Posted by: Barnacle_Blast
You're right I've never tried it because it seems pointless to me. Other dual combinations are much more effective in comparison. Like dual Needlers, SMG and Plasma Pistol, Sniper rifle and shotgun...etc.
[quote]Posted by: Dr Syx
So... You think you have enough knowledge on this subject to discredit someone's opinion when you've never even attempted to do what the person is doing? Sounds a tad silly to me.
I'm absolutely NOT discrediting anyone else's opinion. I'm NOT saying that that my opinions are absolute truths. I'm stating my opinion that's it. I'm saying it seams pointless to ME to dual wield halo 2 pistols. That doesn't mean it's pointless to YOU. I guess that's the last time I open up and be honest like a man on this stupid forum. Why am I even trying to be decent? I should've known to not get involved.
[Edited on 01.30.2012 9:55 AM PST]