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Subject: The Fundamentals of Halo: How 343 can make Halo 4 Good
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Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.

  • 01.28.2012 5:42 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.

I actually liked Halo 2's Pistol for a time because at least it was better than Halo 3's. And the great memories I had from pre-patch Halo 2.

  • 01.28.2012 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.
wasn't meant to be, the magnum was more like a side arm of Halo: Combat Evolved's god pistol, simalar to how the SMG is the side arm of the AR. not as effective on its own but devastating when paried

[Edited on 01.28.2012 5:46 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 5:46 PM PDT


Posted by: path1k

Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.
wasn't meant to be, the magnum was more like a side arm of Halo: Combat Evolved's god pistol, simalar to how the SMG is the side arm of the AR. not as effective on its own but devastating when paried

That's just illogical for any form of balance that Halo's type of sandbox can hope to achieve.

  • 01.28.2012 5:46 PM PDT
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not a fan of dual wielding ThreeSixXero?

  • 01.28.2012 5:47 PM PDT


Posted by: path1k
not a fan of dual wielding ThreeSixXero?

The mechanic for dual-wielding purposely unbalances the sandbox so that it can be a good option.

It would be much better as a weapon-type.

  • 01.28.2012 5:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeSixXero
The mechanic for dual-wielding purposely unbalances the sandbox so that it can be a good option.

It would be much better as a weapon-type.
please explain

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.

I actually liked Halo 2's Pistol for a time because at least it was better than Halo 3's. And the great memories I had from pre-patch Halo 2.

But Halo 3 pistol is more accurate at range against dumb randoms.

  • 01.28.2012 5:51 PM PDT


Posted by: path1k

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
The mechanic for dual-wielding purposely unbalances the sandbox so that it can be a good option.

It would be much better as a weapon-type.
please explain

I'd rather see two bound SMG's that prohibits bashing and grenades, but can both be put away and effectively doubles your short-mid range bullet output than two standalone SMG's that aren't great to have as standalone weapons and require dual-wielding to work.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 5:58 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 5:58 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.

I actually liked Halo 2's Pistol for a time because at least it was better than Halo 3's. And the great memories I had from pre-patch Halo 2.

But Halo 3 pistol is more accurate at range against dumb randoms.

Halo 2's Magnum had bullet output and more autoaim. Halo 3's Pistol was just a joke.

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Implying high auto aim is good.

  • 01.28.2012 6:03 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Implying high auto aim is good.

Halo 2's Magnum's Effectiveness>Halo 3's Magnum's Effectiveness.

  • 01.28.2012 6:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: RC Clone
Implying high auto aim is good.

Halo 2's Magnum's Effectiveness>Halo 3's Magnum's Effectiveness.

Unless strafe.

  • 01.28.2012 6:04 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: RC Clone
Implying high auto aim is good.

Halo 2's Magnum's Effectiveness>Halo 3's Magnum's Effectiveness.

Unless strafe.

Nope.

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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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  • 01.28.2012 6:06 PM PDT
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bad

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero
I'd rather see two bound SMG's that prohibits bashing and grenades, but can both be put away and effectively doubles your short-mid range bullet output than two standalone SMG's that aren't great to have as standalone weapons and require dual-wielding to work.


http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst54437_coIdFUSI0N-s-Halo -4-v3.aspx

If you scroll down to the Automatic Weapons section I have incorporated this exact idea into my vision of Halo 4 (Post #5, halfway through).

In a nutshell
AR and Plasma Repeater are single wield automatics
SMG and Plasma Rifle are dual wield automatics

[Edited on 01.28.2012 6:11 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 6:09 PM PDT

Your presence here is quite unneeded. Begone you!!!

Start from scratch with the core experience and improve on things that desperately needed improvement.

  • 01.28.2012 6:10 PM PDT


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Posted by: ThreeSixXero
I'd rather see two bound SMG's that prohibits bashing and grenades, but can both be put away and effectively doubles your short-mid range bullet output than two standalone SMG's that aren't great to have as standalone weapons and require dual-wielding to work.


http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst54437_coIdFUSI0N-s-Halo -4-v3.aspx

If you scroll down to the Automatic Weapons section I have incorporated this exact idea into my vision of Halo 4.

In a nutshell
AR and Plasma Repeater are single wield automatics
SMG and Plasma Rifle are dual wield automatics

I know. I saw it. I think I "thought" of the idea awhile back, though.

I believe it was on this page

  • 01.28.2012 6:13 PM PDT

I'm in love with Jesus and proud of it!

Make the Campaign less linear. Reach was way too stop-n-go with no room for map exploration/glitch exploiting,etc. That is why I enjoyed the H2 and H3 Campaigns so much.

Bring back skull-hunting. I don't like being given all of the skulls right off the bat. I want to earn them.

Make at least some armor in the armory unlockable through achievements and skull collecting.

Implement separate numerical and title ranks in MM and FF. For example, you could be a Field Marshall in MM, but only a Sergeant in FF.

Combine 1-50 with the current (or similar) rank system. Anybody can be a General, but there are 1-50 Generals, etc. Same applies to other ranks. A Warrant Officer can be a 50 just as much as an Inheritor can be a 14. Combine play-time WITH individual skill. Play time rank is based on hours played.

Get rid of AA's altogether. Sprint is OK, but it is the only exception.

GET RID OF THE CREDIT SYSTEM!

  • 01.28.2012 6:17 PM PDT

Maybe I read it, forgot I read it, then sunconciously stole your idea. Or great minds think alike.

  • 01.28.2012 6:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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The mods of 343 are a joke.

I can't imagine any of the ones here saying something so dumb after it can be seen how much work went into your post.

You are wasting your writing potential there since no one who posts regularly there has a brain.

  • 01.28.2012 6:24 PM PDT


Posted by: MajorGroove
Maybe I read it, forgot I read it, then sunconciously stole your idea. Or great minds think alike.

I like to think of it as that it just means that I'm right and Dual-wielding really isn't that great of a mechanic, and that another person coming to the same conclusion without prior input from me strengthens that idea.

  • 01.28.2012 6:33 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
The mods of 343 are a joke.

I can't imagine any of the ones here saying something so dumb after it can be seen how much work went into your post.

You are wasting your writing potential there since no one who posts regularly there has a brain.

I'm thinking about typing up another Mega-post for the sole purpose of discussing utilities and their purpose in the sandbox.

The people asking for them to be "just another weapon" and not the cornerstones for Halo's sandbox scares me.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 6:39 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 6:39 PM PDT

BUT THA AR SHUD BEAT THA DMR AT CLOSE RANGE!!!1

  • 01.28.2012 6:41 PM PDT

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