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Subject: The Fundamentals of Halo: How 343 can make Halo 4 Good
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Posted by: MajorGroove
BUT THA AR SHUD BEAT THA DMR AT CLOSE RANGE!!!1

It actually should. If you have the reflects to strafe away from the single shots.

  • 01.28.2012 6:43 PM PDT


Posted by: MajorGroove
BUT THA AR SHUD BEAT THA DMR AT CLOSE RANGE!!!1

It really should, but they're making it seems like that it shouldn't be able to beat it at close range at all.

The idea is that at base, a DMR, Pistol, or whatever cannot beat a niche weapon at its niche. However, with the headshot bonus in place, it can allow for the utility to beat a niche weapon provided that the player makes the headshots necessary (thus an automatic requirement of skill).

[Edited on 01.28.2012 6:45 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 6:45 PM PDT

AR should only win at close range if he gets the drop on the DMR user.

If both users are 100% accurate, DMR should win since its harder to use.

  • 01.28.2012 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: MajorGroove
AR should only win at close range if he gets the drop on the DMR user.

If both users are 100% accurate, DMR should win since its harder to use.

You're taking out the modifier of strafing.

  • 01.28.2012 6:46 PM PDT


Posted by: MajorGroove
If both users are 100% accurate, DMR should win since its harder to use.

This should only be correct provided that the DMR user makes headshots.

  • 01.28.2012 6:48 PM PDT

Its hard to compare strafe effectiveness when the DMR has binary damage, all or none, and the AR has a range of damages, the ratio of the number of bullets that hit and miss.

  • 01.28.2012 6:49 PM PDT


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Posted by: MajorGroove
If both users are 100% accurate, DMR should win since its harder to use.

This should only be correct provided that the DMR user makes headshots.


Unless the shield mechanic changes the only headshot that matters is the last one.

  • 01.28.2012 6:51 PM PDT

You can't spell GARBAGE without AR.


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Posted by: RC Clone
Halo 2 pistol was useless because it couldn't kill on it's own.

I actually liked Halo 2's Pistol for a time because at least it was better than Halo 3's. And the great memories I had from pre-patch Halo 2.

But Halo 3 pistol is more accurate at range against dumb randoms.

Halo 2's Magnum had bullet output and more autoaim. Halo 3's Pistol was just a joke.


I found the H3 pistol to be better than the H2 one, although admit-ably, I find the H2 one more fun to use. The H3 one was more accurate and killed faster, but its slow fire rate makes me rage in between shots (There's a lot of time for that). Dual wielding was fun, but overall was a joke; all it did was create a bunch of "half weapons."

P.S. I see that you still haven't caught up to me in pistol kills.

  • 01.28.2012 6:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: MajorGroove
Its hard to compare strafe effectiveness when the DMR has binary damage, all or none, and the AR has a range of damages, the ratio of the number of bullets that hit and miss.

Doesn't matter. We're talking about close range now.

  • 01.28.2012 6:55 PM PDT


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Posted by: MajorGroove
Its hard to compare strafe effectiveness when the DMR has binary damage, all or none, and the AR has a range of damages, the ratio of the number of bullets that hit and miss.

Doesn't matter. We're talking about close range now.


So should I assume AR user is 100% accurate? Is that what you mean?

  • 01.28.2012 6:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Sort of. I meant it would be easier for the AR user at close range to be accurate than for the DMR user assuming they are both strafing.

  • 01.28.2012 7:13 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Sort of. I meant it would be easier for the AR user at close range to be accurate than for the DMR user assuming they are both strafing.


This is the reason why the precision weapon should still win at close range against the AR. Its harder to land individual shots rather than paint a target.

The skill a weapon takes to use should be proportional to its damage. The Sniper Rifle can deal instant death with a headshot but, at close range especially, its very hard to do. The AR on the other hand is very easy to use so its damage should be lower than the Sniper Rifle. Precision weapons fall in between the Sniper and automatics.

  • 01.28.2012 7:17 PM PDT

k.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 10:46 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 10:45 PM PDT
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Your heart was in the right place, just not your post.

As if 343 would listen to you or its community anyway.

  • 01.28.2012 11:19 PM PDT


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Posted by: MajorGroove
BUT THA AR SHUD BEAT THA DMR AT CLOSE RANGE!!!1

It actually should. If you have the reflects to strafe away from the single shots.

*reflex

*this is not the matrix

[Edited on 01.28.2012 11:42 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 11:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: MajorGroove
BUT THA AR SHUD BEAT THA DMR AT CLOSE RANGE!!!1

It actually should. If you have the reflects to strafe away from the single shots.

*reflex

*this is not the matrix

reflexes

And yes. That's how you avoided death in Halo 2 when the BR was so good that anyone could hit you if you made yourself an easy target.

  • 01.28.2012 11:46 PM PDT

rip my pictures from your wall, tear them down and burn them all. light the fire and walk away, theres nothing left to say. take the ashes from the floor. bury them to just make sure, that nothing else is left of me... just bittersweet memories

I would take armor lock off. Make AI marines and enimies alot smarter, make the AI able to drive a car without destroying it in the process, Reduce rocket splash damage, Extend sprint time by 3 seconds, Keep the battle rifle -blam!- the dmr, make it harder to needle some one to death(halo ce status)

  • 01.29.2012 12:23 AM PDT

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