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Subject: Why Reach is a Halo title to be remembered.
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Without Reach, we never would have encountered flawed game mechanics. We finally saw how crucial it is to retain a competitive Halo feel (see how much the population dropped since release?). 343i has realized our concerns and wants to make sure another "Reach" never happens again.

But what GOOD things did Reach offer?
-New forge tools
-Netcode
-Custom options for firefight
-Invasion and some other gametypes
-A "better" armory
-Bloom (only for automatics, not for precision weapons)
-More weapons

  • 01.28.2012 2:59 PM PDT

Wasn't there bloom on automatic weapons before? The cross hair just wouldn't move. At least that's what I thought.

  • 01.28.2012 3:01 PM PDT

Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.

  • 01.28.2012 3:01 PM PDT
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Agreed.

It teaches future Halo developers exactly how not to make a Halo game.

  • 01.28.2012 3:01 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.

Reach was the first FPS.

  • 01.28.2012 3:01 PM PDT

If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress is...

I agree. Through the failure of trying something new, we now know what doesn't make a TRUE halo game.

  • 01.28.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.

  • 01.28.2012 3:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dustofsaturn
Wasn't there bloom on automatic weapons before? The cross hair just wouldn't move. At least that's what I thought.


I would hardly call what was before "bloom" because it was completely uncontrollable.

  • 01.28.2012 3:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: MFROG5

Posted by: Dustofsaturn
Wasn't there bloom on automatic weapons before? The cross hair just wouldn't move. At least that's what I thought.


I would hardly call what was before "bloom" because it was completely uncontrollable.

No. The inaccuracy scaling was about the same.

  • 01.28.2012 3:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.


Inb4 everyone likes you again. Seriously, I respected you before, Goat. That comment and your lack of faith in a good game studio just disappoints me.

  • 01.28.2012 3:04 PM PDT

Posted by: MFROG5
-A "better" armory
-More weapons
lol

  • 01.28.2012 3:05 PM PDT
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Really? I guess you're right. But it just wasn't the same as bloom.

  • 01.28.2012 3:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: boomdeyadah
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-A "better" armory
-More weapons
lol


What? It's true... A larger sandbox and more weapons to choose from.

  • 01.28.2012 3:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: MFROG5

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.


Inb4 everyone likes you again. Seriously, I respected you before, Goat. That comment and your lack of faith in a good game studio just disappoints me.


lolwut?

I appreciate what 343 has done so far but this doesn't mean we should put them on an altar and worship them yet. Juts because they've seen Reach's mistakes it doesn't mean they aren't capable of making their own. I'm pretty sure we saw a Jetpack in the H4 teaser trailer.

I'm optimistic, but at the same time skeptical. I refuse to be hyped up for H4 as i was with Reach. Part of the reason that I enjoy ODST over Reach is because I went into ODST with no expectations. Reach was supposed to be the 'swan song' and it was everything but.

  • 01.28.2012 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: MFROG5
What? It's true... A larger sandbox and more weapons to choose from.
The problem is that the sandbox is filled with useless, underpowered, and/or carbon copy weapons.

  • 01.28.2012 3:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: MFROG5
What? It's true... A larger sandbox and more weapons to choose from.
The problem is that the sandbox is filled with useless, underpowered, and/or carbon copy weapons.


OMG DIS GUN DUZ EXACTLEE DA SAIM AS DIS UTTER GUN!

  • 01.28.2012 3:08 PM PDT
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-Netcode
-Invasion
-Better Forge

And even then I critique. Forge has more then it did in Halo 3 but I still felt that the forging in Halo 3 was superior. The only thing I can say is really noticable about the new forge is better race maps but LOLracing in Halo. That's fun for a while but it gets old fast.

Firefight was better in ODST. It was an actual test of survival. Firefight 2.0 didn't seem to add anything noteworthy. I know I can strip down the settings in Reach to match the feeling of ODST's but the point is that the new additions aren't worth it in Reach. The only cool thing about it is that you can say that it is customizable at all. It doesn't generally mean it is better and to me it doesn't feel like it is a good factor of Reach.

No for bloom. Yes for spread. More weapons generaly means nothing to mean in a niche-based weapon system. Especially if most of the weapons are useless in most common scenarios and situations.

  • 01.28.2012 3:09 PM PDT

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  • 01.28.2012 3:10 PM PDT

Posted by: MFROG5
lack of faith in a good game studio just disappoints me.

343 hasn't even done anything...

  • 01.28.2012 3:11 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Armor King
no offense 'stosh', but I don't think you're funny
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No offense, but I don't think you're the armor 'king'.
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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 3:14 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Clone is an internet God.

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Agreed.

It teaches future Halo developers exactly how not to make a Halo game.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.

Raging at bringing up CoD again.

Yes more than one utility weapon can work if they work at different ranges.

  • 01.28.2012 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: MFROG5
lack of faith in a good game studio just disappoints me.

343 hasn't even done anything...


DEY MAID HAYLOW WUN!

  • 01.28.2012 3:14 PM PDT
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Reach has the worst Host selection ever in a matchmade game. Red bar US dial up host is not good connection. Anyway Reach will be remembered as the worst matchmaking game ever, if a game can select a dial up host over any 50mb up host you know it is broken.

  • 01.28.2012 3:17 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Armor King
no offense 'stosh', but I don't think you're funny
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Posted by: RC Clone
Agreed.

It teaches future Halo developers exactly how not to make a Halo game.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.

Raging at bringing up CoD again.

Yes more than one utility weapon can work if they work at different ranges.
Meant to quote Sanuel, damn iPod :P

They could have different functionalities though. Maybe one is more powerful but has more kick. Or one has a slower/faster fire rate. Or like you said, different ranges. You wanna make them more than just generic. Everyone here thinks only with BR or DMR in mind. You rage at me mentioning CoD, but especially in the world of Halo, there is a lot of things they could take from CoD that could enhance gameplay.

  • 01.28.2012 3:18 PM PDT

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