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Subject: Why Reach is a Halo title to be remembered.
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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: MFROG5
lack of faith in a good game studio just disappoints me.

343 hasn't even done anything...


They have shown that they can listen to the community. Hence, zero bloom and the rest of the TU features have been implemented.

  • 01.28.2012 3:18 PM PDT

Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.
I don't know how I feel about that. What most people want in Halo is to know that the only thing setting them apart from the other team is their skill. I don't people to win games because they chose a different weapon to spawn with or whatever. I want them to win when both people have the same weapon, and one team simply outshot the other.

Idk, it could work though if it was balanced well enough.

  • 01.28.2012 3:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm pretty sure we saw a Jetpack in the H4 teaser trailer.


This was debunked about half a year ago. That's not a jetpack. It's the Chief's EVA thrusters. They only appear in the Halo novels, and he only used them once. Notice how he flies forward, not up.

You're unusually behind the times here.

  • 01.28.2012 3:20 PM PDT

Posted by: MythicSniper
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm pretty sure we saw a Jetpack in the H4 teaser trailer.

This was debunked about half a year ago. That's not a jetpack. It's the Chief's EVA thrusters. They only appear in the Halo novels, and he only used them once. Notice how he flies forward, not up.

You're unusually behind the times here.
Ya, they're definitely thrusters for easier movement in zero-G areas.

  • 01.28.2012 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.
I don't know how I feel about that. What most people want in Halo is to know that the only thing setting them apart from the other team is their skill. I don't people to win games because they chose a different weapon to spawn with or whatever. I want them to win when both people have the same weapon, and one team simply outshot the other.

Idk, it could work though if it was balanced well enough.

I don't think he meant that they would be spawn choices Reach style.

But that you would cross map in BTB with one utility weapon and play MLG Flag with another.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 3:22 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 3:21 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Armor King
no offense 'stosh', but I don't think you're funny
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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.
I don't know how I feel about that. What most people want in Halo is to know that the only thing setting them apart from the other team is their skill. I don't people to win games because they chose a different weapon to spawn with or whatever. I want them to win when both people have the same weapon, and one team simply outshot the other.

Idk, it could work though if it was balanced well enough.
well people could still spawn all with the same weapon. I was thinking along the lines of other than just 3 shot bursts or single fire weapons that are simply just bullets. There is other factors in a gun that can make each gun unique and useful.

Bungee completely did it wrong with the Needle Rifle and DMR in my opinion. They are different, but essentially the same. They function very similar. It was better in halo 3 where one weapon was 3 round burst, but the other was a fast rof single shot weapon.

  • 01.28.2012 3:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: MythicSniper
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm pretty sure we saw a Jetpack in the H4 teaser trailer.

This was debunked about half a year ago. That's not a jetpack. It's the Chief's EVA thrusters. They only appear in the Halo novels, and he only used them once. Notice how he flies forward, not up.

You're unusually behind the times here.
Ya, they're definitely thrusters for easier movement in zero-G areas.

The real confusing part is that they used the Reach Jetpack sound effect in the trailer.

Listen

  • 01.28.2012 3:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: MFROG5
Without Reach, we never would have encountered flawed game mechanics.


...Implying the previous Halos didn't have their flaws too.

  • 01.28.2012 3:26 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Armor King
no offense 'stosh', but I don't think you're funny
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Posted by: RC Clone
I don't think he meant that they would be spawn choices Reach style.

But that you would cross map in BTB with one utility weapon and play MLG Flag with another.
that is another way to put it. It's a better and more varied way to create utility weapons, IMO

  • 01.28.2012 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: MythicSniper
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm pretty sure we saw a Jetpack in the H4 teaser trailer.

This was debunked about half a year ago. That's not a jetpack. It's the Chief's EVA thrusters. They only appear in the Halo novels, and he only used them once. Notice how he flies forward, not up.

You're unusually behind the times here.
Ya, they're definitely thrusters for easier movement in zero-G areas.


Excuse my ignorance then. Not up to date on the lore, but my point about 343 still stands. I'm not going to no-life the forums like I did for Reach's development time and I reserve my own opinions till 343 shows us some decent footage.

[Edited on 01.28.2012 3:28 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2012 3:27 PM PDT

For The Lulz is a worthier cause than For The Win.

From the skies to the ground, I'm the one that'll reign destruction down on you from behind the wheel and the flight stick. Keep your eyes on the rear view mirror, or you may be eating exhaust aside the road, riddled with holes.

My sniper is hungry for souls.

If at first you fail, fail again so that you succeed by wrapping your fail around the continuum into the win zone.


Posted by: RC Clone

The real confusing part is that they used the Reach Jetpack sound effect in the trailer.

Listen


lol. Lazy 343 is lazy.

But, to be fair, it was just a CGI trailer to hype H4. No one would notice the jetpack noise. They'd just foam at the mouth and go OMGHALO4UHHHNNNHHHHHH. Besides, I bet the EVA thrusters will either only appear once in the actual game or not appear at all. Apparently the "level" we see in the trailer doesn't actually happen in the game. :/

  • 01.28.2012 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: MythicSniper

Posted by: RC Clone

The real confusing part is that they used the Reach Jetpack sound effect in the trailer.

Listen


lol. Lazy 343 is lazy.

But, to be fair, it was just a CGI trailer to hype H4. No one would notice the jetpack noise. They'd just foam at the mouth and go OMGHALO4UHHHNNNHHHHHH. Besides, I bet the EVA thrusters will either only appear once in the actual game or not appear at all. Apparently the "level" we see in the trailer doesn't actually happen in the game. :/


I hope they don't take the Star Wars Force Unleashed or Section 8 approach and have us drop down onto the planet in first person. Would much rather see it in a cutscene.

  • 01.28.2012 3:30 PM PDT

Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Zero bloom MLG is orgasmic. The settings are just perfect.

I hope they keep the single-shot hitscan utility weapon in Halo 4.
Why not have more than one utility precision weapon? Having both BR and DMR styled weapons could make for some varied gameplay, assuming they can make them balanced and not retarded. Similar to CoD, but with Halo mechanics obviously.
I don't know how I feel about that. What most people want in Halo is to know that the only thing setting them apart from the other team is their skill. I don't people to win games because they chose a different weapon to spawn with or whatever. I want them to win when both people have the same weapon, and one team simply outshot the other.

Idk, it could work though if it was balanced well enough.
well people could still spawn all with the same weapon. I was thinking along the lines of other than just 3 shot bursts or single fire weapons that are simply just bullets. There is other factors in a gun that can make each gun unique and useful.

Bungee completely did it wrong with the Needle Rifle and DMR in my opinion. They are different, but essentially the same. They function very similar. It was better in halo 3 where one weapon was 3 round burst, but the other was a fast rof single shot weapon.

Multiple utility weapons would be fine, like how in Halo 3 we had the Carbine and the BR. Several utility weapons that actually get picked up are better than a bunch of niche weapons that act more as scenery than an actual weapon.

  • 01.28.2012 3:31 PM PDT

Hi.

Reach didn't even innovate Halo. Literally the only 'innovation' in the game is the concept of load-outs. Everything else in Reach is either a random refinement (or downgrade).

Contrary to popular belief, Reach is, ironically, Halo 3.5: Campaign-less edition.

There is nothing to remember about this game.

  • 01.28.2012 3:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zomechin
There is nothing to remember about this game.


I'll always remember playing fun customs and the beta. The rest of the game is quite forgettable.

  • 01.28.2012 3:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Zomechin
There is nothing to remember about this game.


I'll always remember playing fun customs and the beta. The rest of the game is quite forgettable.


how was the beta any better Goat? AL was longer!!!

  • 01.28.2012 3:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Zomechin
Reach didn't even innovate Halo. Literally the only 'innovation' in the game is the concept of load-outs. Everything else in Reach is either a random refinement (or downgrade).

Contrary to popular belief, Reach is, ironically, Halo 3.5: Campaign-less edition.

There is nothing to remember about this game.
Oh well, I have a lot of fun on it so I don't mind.

  • 01.28.2012 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: TenguNova

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Zomechin
There is nothing to remember about this game.


I'll always remember playing fun customs and the beta. The rest of the game is quite forgettable.


how was the beta any better Goat? AL was longer!!!


I got in the Beta early and the game was a nice fresh change from halo 3.

5 days later it was pants when everyone else got on and started exploiting it.

  • 01.28.2012 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: TenguNova

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Zomechin
There is nothing to remember about this game.


I'll always remember playing fun customs and the beta. The rest of the game is quite forgettable.


how was the beta any better Goat? AL was longer!!!


I got in the Beta early and the game was a nice fresh change from halo 3.

5 days later it was pants when everyone else got on and started exploiting it.


well everything about reach is exploitable. Everything from AAs to grenades.

  • 01.28.2012 3:45 PM PDT

lolnope.


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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: MFROG5
-A "better" armory
-More weapons
lol


What? It's true... A larger sandbox and more weapons to choose from.
What the Hell are you smoking? They practically nerfed like 10 guns and brought in only like 5 new ones. They all suck dick too. If anything, there's significantly less guns to choose from.

  • 01.28.2012 5:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: MFROG5
-A "better" armory
-Bloom (only for automatics, not for precision weapons)
-More weapons


These don't matter.

  • 01.28.2012 5:06 PM PDT


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.

That's always a possibility, but you should be more optimistic. After all, they have Frankie.

  • 01.28.2012 5:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.

That's always a possibility, but you should be more optimistic. After all, they have Frankie.


But they have their lolWaypoint forum.

  • 01.28.2012 5:14 PM PDT


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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.

That's always a possibility, but you should be more optimistic. After all, they have Frankie.


But they have their lolWaypoint forum.

Not my fault that I can't keep up with the imbeciles, thread-wise. Maybe I could with Goat, but not by myself.

  • 01.28.2012 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
inb4 343 makes worse mistakes.

That's always a possibility, but you should be more optimistic. After all, they have Frankie.


Someone quickmeme a picture of frankie

  • 01.28.2012 5:21 PM PDT

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