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Subject: What would Hemmorhage be like without the wraith?

Poll: What would Hemmorhage be like without the wraith?  [closed]
Better:  52%
(40 Votes)
Worse:  48%
(37 Votes)
Total Votes: 77

I am trying to think about ways to improve Hemmorhage because it is one of my least favorite maps to play on. My friend had the idea of just removing the wraith. What are your thoughts on this?

Personally, I think it would be a good change, because the wraith and sniper tend to dominate here. If the wraith was removed, Hemmorhage would become one of those classic warthog maps like standoff and valhalla. My thoughts..

Any opinions on this?

PS: Goat, and all other wraith lovers out there, this is just an idea so don't flame me too hard.

  • 01.28.2012 3:30 PM PDT

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You know exactly what I'm going to say.

  • 01.28.2012 3:30 PM PDT

Worse.

The Wraith only dominates if you lose your hogs.

  • 01.28.2012 3:32 PM PDT
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It would be harder to pin down one side.

  • 01.28.2012 3:33 PM PDT

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  • 01.28.2012 3:33 PM PDT


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
You know exactly what I'm going to say.

I know goat, I guessed that.. :)

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Worse.

The Wraith only dominates if you lose your hogs.


I drive a lot on Hemmorhage, and idk I find it hard to avoid the wraith while concentrating on the revenant/other warthogs/dmr/plasma launcher/sniper/ghost. Even if I stay on my side, the wraith will invariably get me.

  • 01.28.2012 3:36 PM PDT
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I don't have issues dealing with a Wraith, there's a Plasma Pistol in each base, two Concussion Rifles on the map, and the Plasma Launcher.
And of course you start with a Wraith killer as well, the AR is quite effective, even with just 2 or 3 players spraying the Wraith.
All of the above weapons equal a dead Wraith.

  • 01.28.2012 3:36 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
It would be harder to pin down one side.

And that's good IMO.

  • 01.28.2012 3:36 PM PDT


Posted by: BBZak III

My issue with the wraith is that it dominates other vehicles too much, and when playing against a decent team, the boost makes it easy to spawn trap their side too easily.

  • 01.28.2012 3:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
I drive a lot on Hemmorhage, and idk I find it hard to avoid the wraith while concentrating on the revenant/other warthogs/dmr/plasma launcher/sniper/ghost. Even if I stay on my side, the wraith will invariably get me.
lol, it really isn't that hard, you keep your distance. Even if you can't get a good angle, a decent driver+gunner can keep a Wraith trapped behind it's base. Wraiths in the open will get raped by the turret at long range.

Not to mention a hog can do laps around a Wraith (same with Ghosts and Revs) So if a Wraith driver ever decides to rush the enemy it'll usually get taken down quickly.

  • 01.28.2012 3:41 PM PDT
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I remember the days when Hemmorhage had a tank.. Good times lol

  • 01.28.2012 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
My issue with the wraith is that it dominates other vehicles too much, and when playing against a decent team, the boost makes it easy to spawn trap their side too easily.

That's true, it can be devastating when a good team gets a hold of one, or both. Yikes...
I guess I've been lucky enough not to find a team like that, I don't play too much BTB anyway, I usually stick with Multi Team or Rumble Pit. I have bad luck with random teammates.

  • 01.28.2012 3:46 PM PDT


Posted by: boomdeyadah

I still don't like the wraith.. Standoff, rats nest and valhalla all played excellent in warthogs. None of them had tanks.

  • 01.28.2012 3:47 PM PDT

Posted by: tsujen
I remember the days when Hemmorhage had a tank.. Good times lol
fk yeah

  • 01.28.2012 3:47 PM PDT


Posted by: tsujen
I remember the days when Hemmorhage had a tank.. Good times lol

Oh god no.. Tank = hitscan highly explosive round lol. Wayyy too powerful. It wasn't even worth leaving the base if they had yours.

  • 01.28.2012 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
Tank = hitscan highly explosive round
Tank isn't hitscan, there is travel time...

  • 01.28.2012 3:48 PM PDT

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Wraith is better than Scorpion for Hemmorhage. You could snipe base to base with that thing. IDK what Bungie was thinking.

If it was H2 tank it would have worked.

  • 01.28.2012 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: BBZak III

I have bad luck with teammates and BTB is almost all I play anymore..


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
Tank = hitscan highly explosive round
Tank isn't hitscan, there is travel time...

Sorry you are right, but it travels straight and it gets there really fast. Which is a pain in the ass on open maps.

  • 01.28.2012 3:50 PM PDT

Better. With the Wraith gone, there would be Revenants, Ghosts, and Warthogs fighting all over the map. Would be chaotic. I'd love it.

Not that I have a problem with Wraiths in the first place, though. I don't.

  • 01.28.2012 5:37 PM PDT


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Wraith is better than Scorpion for Hemmorhage. You could snipe base to base with that thing. IDK what Bungie was thinking.

If it was CE Terrain it would have worked.

  • 01.28.2012 5:38 PM PDT


Posted by: Cavik Akavelle
Better. With the Wraith gone, there would be Revenants, Ghosts, and Warthogs fighting all over the map. Would be chaotic. I'd love it.

Not that I have a problem with Wraiths in the first place, though. I don't.

This is how I feel too.. Except I do have a problem with the wraith.

  • 01.28.2012 5:41 PM PDT
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My opinion: Hemmorage would be better if the revenant and the wraith were removed.

  • 01.28.2012 5:45 PM PDT

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  • 01.28.2012 6:16 PM PDT
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Why the hell cant anyone spell Hemorrhage correctly?
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  • 01.28.2012 6:17 PM PDT

Escalators don't break, they just become stairs.

The weapon and vehicle system in which a DMR can take out any non-tank vehicle will make it impossible to make a good hog map.

We need the Halo 3 weapon and vehicle system back when everything was super even.

  • 01.28.2012 6:20 PM PDT

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